Am I reading this right? Creepy Uncle Joe's support is higher among black WOMEN than black men? And Warren's is LOWER? What the fuck?
right, instead he thinks the people putting children in concentration camps are gonna magically come to their senses and become nice people and work with him once he's in the oval office, in spite of how the last three quarters of his tenure as VP actually worked outBiden isn't going to be tied with a VP that wants to electrocute all gays....or put minority kids in cages.
No he'll be able to pass m4a with a magic wand. /s
I'm sure that THIS time having nothing to offer except shaming people into voting for the democratic party candidate will work out
As someone who would vote for a corpse over Trump and has always been content enough voting for candidates I don't outright love, it sure would be nice if we abolished the electoral college. In New Jersey, spending 5 minutes canvassing for my local rep is more beneficial than 5 weeks of canvassing for Biden in my own state (assuming Biden wins the primary).
No see I was being sarcastic, having nothing to offer except shaming and scolding voters about how you're owed their vote because the other guy is so much worse is why you keep losingIt better or we're stuck with Trump. They had their choice and everyone will face the consequences, again, because they're too arrogant to participate in the system people died for to give them that right to choose their leaders.
Exactly.As someone who would vote for a corpse over Trump and has always been content enough voting for candidates I don't outright love, it sure would be nice if we abolished the electoral college. In New Jersey, spending 5 minutes canvassing for my local rep is more beneficial than 5 weeks of canvassing for Biden in my own state (assuming Biden wins the primary).
What happens if Biden wins most states with like 30% but Warren gets ~29% and Sanders gets ~27%. We're still stuck with Biden or a contested convention or what.God damn it. Bernie dropping out and coalescing behind Warren is the right thing to do for the country. Otherwise, they stay in, split the vote, and Biden gets the nom. And fuck Joe Biden.
That part is just for who they are considering. Later in the study it shows some of the ways that Biden is currently ahead by black voters and yeah he has more support among black women. However, if nearly the same amount of black people are considering Warren, even if she's not currently their top pick, I'm not sure what exactly all this real world talk is supposed to mean.Am I reading this right? Creepy Uncle Joe's support is higher among black WOMEN than black men? And Warren's is LOWER? What the fuck?
No see I was being sarcastic, having nothing to offer except shaming and scolding voters about how you're owed their vote because the other guy is so much worse is why you keep losing
It will be super disappointing if Hillary couldn't win in 2016 but someone to the right of her wins 4 years later :/We lost once, we won twice with Obama and Bill Clinton. We can't win with people who can't pass the primaries.
It will be super disappointing if Hillary couldn't win in 2016 but someone to the right of her wins 4 years later :/
If Joe Biden is the nominee, he isn't owed our votes. He has to earn them. The idea that we should show up to the polls and robotically vote for whatever shambling ghoul that emerges from the Democratic primary is fucking misguided.
A quarter that's dangerous enough to fuck everything up, legally.
God damn it. Warren dropping out and coalescing behind Bernie is the right thing to do for the country. Otherwise, they stay in, split the vote, and Biden gets the nom. And fuck Joe Biden.God damn it. Bernie dropping out and coalescing behind Warren is the right thing to do for the country. Otherwise, they stay in, split the vote, and Biden gets the nom. And fuck Joe Biden.
Exactly. I don't think people want revolution or to tear down the system. They want a return to normalacy where government ran in the background and was functional.
I dread to think what comes after Biden given the aftermath and achievements of those "wins". Probably a more competent fascist.We lost once, we won twice with Obama and Bill Clinton. We can't win with people who can't pass the primaries.
I dread to think what comes after Biden given the aftermath and achievements of those "wins". Probably a more competent fascist.
God damn it. Warren dropping out and coalescing behind Bernie is the right thing to do for the country. Otherwise, they stay in, split the vote, and Biden gets the nom. And fuck Joe Biden.
Just wanted to balance this out.
The impending climate apocalypse and rise of the extreme right needs to be tackled head on, the timidness of the current establishment has already been slowing us for DECADES on BASIC civil rights questions, this system is not good enough for the upcoming challenges.
A quarter that's dangerous enough to fuck everything up, legally.
This kind of idiocy in 2020 is going to lead for a conservative supreme court for 30+ years, the repeal of Obergefell v. Hodges and Roe v. Wade.Framing Biden as a savior for those people is laughable.
These groups are all still fucked under neoliberal fucks like Biden. Hell, you almost had a TERF president with Hilary under the banner of "progress".
But liberals in the US clap everytime they see a rainbow anti-homeless rock like this, so I don't think there is much hope for them.
Because of, not regardless.
This is what I've been trying to tell people here for awhile. Everyone that keeps screaming "centrist" and "neoliberal"...the electorate IS in the middle. Biden appeals to the democratic electorate and republicans who despise Trump.
I think I personally stand to gain the most from his plan to address student loan debt versus any other plan. Doesn't mean he's my preferred candidate but that's something.Why would anyone be excited for him? I just don't understand. What the hell is the selling point?
I would have diapers on standby just in case.If we lose bc we nominate Biden bc he's the "most electable I will shit myself.
Am I reading this right? Creepy Uncle Joe's support is higher among black WOMEN than black men? And Warren's is LOWER? What the fuck?
The issue is Biden is a fucking terrible campaigner and debater and supports some things that even independents/moderate republicans disagree with (legalization of marijuana for one)If there was ever one post I hope people consider, it's this one.
Okay but again, until the point where he's the nominee we do need to at least try to shift the electorate in the right direction and advocate for more progressive candidates. And hell, even when he is it doesn't mean we just stop trying to move the needle.If there was ever one post I hope people consider, it's this one.
One of the most collectively insulting things always parroted on these forums is that black people are uninformed or low information voters for their support of "X candidate that I don't like."
I honestly have no idea. They combine delegates? I think a contested convention is bound to be a really ugly situation that has a good chance of souring the general for the Dems.What happens if Biden wins most states with like 30% but Warren gets ~29% and Sanders gets ~27%. We're still stuck with Biden or a contested convention or what.
Yep, Sanders's unfavorables are dangerously high as well.
Era wasn't a forum thenExact same thing happened for black and Hispanic supporters of Clinton back in 2015-16.
Good ol' woke Era
The issue is Biden is a fucking terrible campaigner and debater and supports some things that even independents/moderate republicans disagree with (legalization of marijuana for one)
He's been dropping ever since he announced and started with the biggest advantage out of all candidatesSo terrible he's still the front runner after months of debates and campaigning lmao
This kind of idiocy in 2020 is going to lead for a conservative supreme court for 30+ years, the repeal of Obergefell v. Hodges and Roe v. Wade.
Not saying things are or will be great for those groups under Biden, but this is outright lunacy.
While conveniently ignoring that less than 10% of black voters went to trump lolOne of the most collectively insulting things always parroted on these forums is that black people are uninformed or low information voters for their support of "X candidate that I don't like."
Yes, sidestep the core of my argument and act like people asking for a better future are "lunatics".
You already have a GOP nightmare land, stop acting like leftist s are to blame for it either.
whaaa...
so the guys want to put a stop to deportations and biden tells him to vote for trump? has biden lost his gotdamn mind?
The issue is Biden is a fucking terrible campaigner and debater and supports some things that even independents/moderate republicans disagree with (legalization of marijuana for one)
Okay but again, until the point where he's the nominee we do need to at least try to shift the electorate in the right direction and advocate for more progressive candidates. And hell, even when he is it doesn't mean we just stop trying to move the needle.