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RDR2 released a year ago and I can't stop thinking how incredible it was
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The best shot anyone has of taking down RDR2 (for open world games) is Cyberpunk 2077, and that doesn't look like it will have anywhere near as strong a narrative (handcuffed by its own design choices). Technically could surpass it, but i'd wager less emotionally engaging and resonant. Last of Us 2 will challenge (and likely surpass) RDR2 in narrative and emotional moments, but it's obviously not an open world behemoth built on hundreds of dynamic and overlapping mechanisms.
Beyond that there is nothing on the horizon (see what I did there?) that is even pretending to go for the same scope coupled with a strong narrative. Next contender will be whatever Rockstar cooks up, but even they're probably more concerned/content with online growth for GTAV and RDR2 than with putting something new out, at least for the next 5 years.
Yo, what? As soon as the reigns were off I was exploring the map as far as I could safely go. Probably spent 20 hours in the wilderness and towns just exploring before I got back to the main storyline. And the missions (out of the hundred+) i remember were burning down a farm, robbing a train, sneaking out of a city while hunted by cops (after robbing a bank), hunting down and fighting a lion, freaking busting Micah out of jail and covering his stupid murdering ass as he takes revenge on an entire town (should have let him rot!), hot air balloon surveillance.. what?
Beyond that there is nothing on the horizon (see what I did there?) that is even pretending to go for the same scope coupled with a strong narrative. Next contender will be whatever Rockstar cooks up, but even they're probably more concerned/content with online growth for GTAV and RDR2 than with putting something new out, at least for the next 5 years.
Yo, what? As soon as the reigns were off I was exploring the map as far as I could safely go. Probably spent 20 hours in the wilderness and towns just exploring before I got back to the main storyline. And the missions (out of the hundred+) i remember were burning down a farm, robbing a train, sneaking out of a city while hunted by cops (after robbing a bank), hunting down and fighting a lion, freaking busting Micah out of jail and covering his stupid murdering ass as he takes revenge on an entire town (should have let him rot!), hot air balloon surveillance.. what?
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It's a messy masterpiece. Kinda love that a big budget game was almost deliberately alienating to whoever wasn't on its wavelength. Too many blockbuster games seem desperate to appeal to everyone.
Way too much riding between points on horses. The graphics were great but the gameplay was a mess. I'd rather play RDR1 before RDR2 again.
The definitive edition's releasing on November 5th, so you could wait that long if you want and then give it a try
Still playing it to this day.
The most livid, life-like and convincing open world created this generation, hands down. The animal ecosystem and behavior and the town / city representation is the most true to life in the video game spectrum.
The most livid, life-like and convincing open world created this generation, hands down. The animal ecosystem and behavior and the town / city representation is the most true to life in the video game spectrum.
I bet you were really salty when the awards went out. GOW was GOTY.
I started playing it because i really wanted to like it but at one point i just couldnt force myself to go on so i quit. Vistas are great but the game is simply not fun. I am glad someone enjoyed it but being a huge western movies fan, the game was not the ultimate cowboy experience i have been waiting for so long. Everything felt so scripted and predestined, i dont know...
Edit: great review about the game https://youtu.be/MvJPKOLDSos
Edit: great review about the game https://youtu.be/MvJPKOLDSos
Red Dead Redemption 2 has ruined a lot of other games for me. Plenty of game worlds just feel lifeless now compared to what Red Dead did. It's truly an astounding accomplishment.
To me, RDR2 is a phenomenal experience. But as a game it's not as great.
That world though... It's definitely made me more nitpicky over other open world games. But the controls and the strict mission structure definitely hurts it in my eyes.
That world though... It's definitely made me more nitpicky over other open world games. But the controls and the strict mission structure definitely hurts it in my eyes.
Eh, opinions an all, but it seemed to me GoW fans were saltier even after it won more awards. All they could talk about was RDR2 and how bad they thought it was, as if they thought their game couldn't stand on its own without tearing down another game.
RDR2 was my easy game of the year, but Spider-Man and GoW were 2 and 3.
They are good worldbuilders but the story, gameplay, mechanics, etc.. leave a lot to be desired.
I gave up halfway the first playthrough and started again some months later and I was dissappointed with the story. It went exactly where I thought it was going to.
I gave up halfway the first playthrough and started again some months later and I was dissappointed with the story. It went exactly where I thought it was going to.
I say 10 years. While the story can be exceeded, the gameplay can be past, the open world could be better realized in other games, the odds that all 3 come together in one game is unlikely in the immediate future.
The same thing happened with BoTW for me, and to be honest I still think about it.
RDR2, eh, I kind of forgot about it a month after I played it - too constrained for my liking and the gameplay was still dull. Still, an incredible game for what it was.
RDR2, eh, I kind of forgot about it a month after I played it - too constrained for my liking and the gameplay was still dull. Still, an incredible game for what it was.
The "we need more money" beats started to weigh on me.
I loved side stories like Arthur seeing his old flame. There's some really great self contained stuff in there, but at the same time I think I was dissapointed in the overall plot but I'm thinking of giving it another chance.
The gameplay is for sure, mission design and the general waves of cardboard cut out enemies can't make me love the game. It sours all the incredible things it does.
So TLOU2 will easily surpass it, and it has already been surpassed by other games in its release year.
I loved side stories like Arthur seeing his old flame. There's some really great self contained stuff in there, but at the same time I think I was dissapointed in the overall plot but I'm thinking of giving it another chance.
The gameplay is for sure, mission design and the general waves of cardboard cut out enemies can't make me love the game. It sours all the incredible things it does.
So TLOU2 will easily surpass it, and it has already been surpassed by other games in its release year.
After getting to chapter 2 and not playing It again I've recently gone back and now just got to chapter 3 and the game is incredible!
i am playing on a One X on an LG C9 OLED and the graphics are like nothing I have seen before, the game is also amazing, I love every minute im in the world, it's so immersive and moments I just ride off by myself feels like I am alone in the wilderness.
i am playing on a One X on an LG C9 OLED and the graphics are like nothing I have seen before, the game is also amazing, I love every minute im in the world, it's so immersive and moments I just ride off by myself feels like I am alone in the wilderness.
Yeah, because the voice acting, soundtrack and perfectly immersive open world wasn't top tier?
The game has a 97/100 on Metacritic and that's when releasing after another masterpiece like God of War. It has the same score as Breath of the Wild, so it's in VERY good company.
Couldn't agree more. It's a masterpiece.
I also think Arthur will sit at the top for the most well-made character and protagonist for a long time as well, he was like a blank piece of paper from the start but within a few chapters they had fleshed him out better than any other character I can think of.
The living open world and it's diversity will probably stay unsurpassed until the next AAA Rockstar game, whatever that may be. The amount of care they've put into even the tiniest of details is just insane. It shows that it's made by a big team without rushing.
I also think Arthur will sit at the top for the most well-made character and protagonist for a long time as well, he was like a blank piece of paper from the start but within a few chapters they had fleshed him out better than any other character I can think of.
The living open world and it's diversity will probably stay unsurpassed until the next AAA Rockstar game, whatever that may be. The amount of care they've put into even the tiniest of details is just insane. It shows that it's made by a big team without rushing.
God of war has a lower meta and yet won the most game of the year awards, more than rdr2, what does that tell you?
Rdr2 was a good game, but it's atrocious controls and boring story missions bring it really down for me
I love when I come into a thread all fired up but then see a post like this that is so much more well written than anything I was going to say. I will just add I concur and nothing in RDR2 hasn't been surpassed except for are there horse balls on any other game right now?
It tells me that game critics scored one game higher than the other. Personally i don't look at GotY awards as mattering more than review score averages.
If you already walked away from it I promise you it doesn't all of a sudden become a better game. I forced myself back through it because of the hype and it was a decent amount of time I wish I regret not devoting to much better games
Huh. No it means it was a hype fest on release that once people actually thought about it realized "Wait this pretty game was pretty forgettable in general and especially so when held up against its peers" It tells you the exact opposite is happening than the OP is alleging in that it was remarkable and made a stamp on the industry.
There really is a dedicated group pf RDR2 nay sayers here. Why are we even comparing it to GOW?
Games are reviewed by people who've played through it, hype has nothing to do with the scores. RDR2 also had to be compared to GoW when it came to scores, yet it managed to score a 97 vs a 94 overall.
It was topped by several games that released before it, including several rockstar games.
Many games that released this year are infinitely better than RDR2.
Many games that released this year are infinitely better than RDR2.
Its honestly the honeymoon phase, because low key. GTA 4 and Red Dead are no where near as good as their scores. How anyone can rate Red Dead a 9 or 10 the way it controls is mind boggling.
That high of a meta and its not even game of the year. A game that scored lower than it got majority of all the game of the year votes, and Red Dead came out 2 months ahead of the awards, while GOW came out more than 6 months before hand
Red Dead honestly controls as if you are playing it on a streaming service. No game that controls like that should have get that high of a meta ever.
Right? I never understood the complaints about the controls OR mission "structure". I enjoyed the missions thoroughly.
My only complaint has to do with the wanted and witness system.
10/10. Can't wait to dive in again and experience it all again.
How is online btw?
Where's the "it controls like an old shopping trolley" poll option?
It's a stunni g open world but the controls, shooting and mission design are pretty poor, and sometimes near dreadful.
It's a stunni g open world but the controls, shooting and mission design are pretty poor, and sometimes near dreadful.
Absolutely, we are in a honeymoon phase thats lasting over a year. We are absolutely lying to ourself about liking this game . You are absolutely right that that it is insane to give this game high scores , no matter how much you enjoyed the experience, no matter how much people think its fantastic technological and artistic achievement of the medium. You are absolutely right that over 130 publications that gave RDR 2 game of the year they really did not actually think it was GOTY . You hit the nail on the head about alll of it,. when RDR 2 got 3rd place in this forum GOTY votes? Those people were actually were just confused on what to vote , they forgot God of War existed that year, due to release window. Your insight is something most people should take note.
This is such an odd sentiment. And only seems to exist from people who are just soooo salty that the game is tied for the generation as the best reviewed game.
"Rockstar games are overrated by reviewers!"
"Honeymoon phase!"
"God of War is the better game!"
you guys just need to realize people loved the game. Folks had the same complaints about the controls in GTAV and it's a pop culture phenomenon. And we'll go through this same song and dance with GTAVI.
Let's see here...
Terrible controls, character movement, mission design, pre-baked animations for everything, about twice as long as it needed to be, every mission is the same after the midway point, characters who do stupid things because plot... Yeah... No...
Only memorable thing is how disappointing it is.
Terrible controls, character movement, mission design, pre-baked animations for everything, about twice as long as it needed to be, every mission is the same after the midway point, characters who do stupid things because plot... Yeah... No...
Only memorable thing is how disappointing it is.
RDR2 trounces God of War in almost every metric used for success. Critically, commercially and fiscally. It's still selling well.
Game is treated as a landmark moment for the industry by most. Time to accept it.