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Ray Tracing coming to Nvidia Pascal/Turing GTX cards in April driver update - GTX 1060 6GB and up also enabled on Laptops [out now]
- Thread starter Kayant
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Am I interpreting this correctly in that it says RTX cards will also get a large FPS boost in ray traced games in April? That would be nice. I have an RTX 2070 but haven't bothered trying DXR in BFV or Exodus because the benchmarks I've seen for 1440p have been not that great.
CE's solution isn't a great one quality wise & requires SVOGI on top of it, so it's expensive & only runs in a scripted demo so far, not a real game. It seems for now decent RT quality that's viable without any catches will be a Nvidia thing unless you want a big performance hit.
Damn, I was hoping I could play Quake 2 with my 1080 lol. At least I'll be able to try it out, I guess...
As long as I can play the new Quake 2 RTX stuff then showed today at 60fps on my GTX 1080 then i'll be happy.
Edit: oh :(
Edit: oh :(
by this logic, you wouldnt need a GPU to render real time 3D graphics as well as a CPU can technically do it.
All GPU must be scam /S
I thought it was known all along that raytracing can be rendered from non-RTX cards.. just that they will run like ass and the tensor cores in the RTX aids and accelerates the rendering of raytracing.
reflections maybe, I'd be surprised if they came out the gate with proper ray traced GI.
yes....because it will be too slow...
just because something can run raytracing doesn't mean it can run raytracing reasonably
Compaq Presario 386s can run doom shareware too back then..............in glorious 10fps!
Can technically run and can run well are two separate things.
This should be a good news to give people without RTX a 'taste' of raytracing (with shitty framerate) but what i am reading some far out uninformed 'Tensor cores is a lie, nvidia is evil, buy amd people stands for justice!' type of comment? My head hurts.
The big question would be if there is accelerated ray tracing hardware, because yes, any gpu could do it, it just would not be fast or at low resolution
When you say they will be butt what do you mean? That it will look bad or run bad?
Because I can't understand why that would be the case, I have seen full real-time global illumination in games without RTX (The Hunter - Call Of The Wild) and it runs perfectly fine even at 4k res.
Everytime I watch a streamer try a new game with RTX enabled, they always end up turning it off because the performance is shitting the bed, then the "RTX just works" memes start for a while. Can't imagine if it runs like that on the dedicated high end card that it would be even worth trying on my paltry 1060 lol
Has anyone considered that this might be Nvidia trying to encourage people to buy RTX cards because they haven't sold as well as planned*
*https://www.notebookcheck.net/Nvidi...-GPU-sales-weaker-than-expected.401341.0.html
This is a perfect way for people to see the visual improvements it offers and once people see it for themselves they will want an RTX card and not be able to resist because pascal won't give them enough raw performance to run it at acceptable framerates?
Smart business move for sure, maybe I am just being cynical though.
Let's also not forget that if you want to try these features on Metro then you will need to use Epic Games Store, that would be another great way to get people to use that abomination, again, maybe I am just being cynical/paranoid but I don't tend to think moves like this are made unless there is an underlying benefit to the company doing it, I doubt it's just because they want everyone to have nice things...
*https://www.notebookcheck.net/Nvidi...-GPU-sales-weaker-than-expected.401341.0.html
This is a perfect way for people to see the visual improvements it offers and once people see it for themselves they will want an RTX card and not be able to resist because pascal won't give them enough raw performance to run it at acceptable framerates?
Smart business move for sure, maybe I am just being cynical though.
Let's also not forget that if you want to try these features on Metro then you will need to use Epic Games Store, that would be another great way to get people to use that abomination, again, maybe I am just being cynical/paranoid but I don't tend to think moves like this are made unless there is an underlying benefit to the company doing it, I doubt it's just because they want everyone to have nice things...
No. DLSS requires the tensor cores which aren't in the GTX series cards.
Thanks for clearing it up. I am not too interested in rtx, but dlss intrigues me.
Purchasers are waiting for reasonable prices more like it, but sure, $1200 GPU to play Quake 2 with ray tracing is what we want Nvidia.
To me this looks like them wanting to make you try it while it runs like crap and make you go " oh man I guess I REALLY DO NEED an rtx card " then the gulible gets hooked into buying those cards which are currently selling not to well.
Well, it's already at the point where if you want increased performance from mid-high range cards, you've got to buy an RTX.. at least from Nvidia anyway. Either people hold off and watch their general game performance go down as new games release.. or they eventually end up buying an RTX card from Nvidia at some point. We'll have to see what AMD does.
That's exactly what it is imo.
Just like this rubbish about quake 2 ray tracing not working as well on older cards.
You can literally mod Minecraft to use GI and I have seen GI implemented in games with great framerates, this is a business move imo.
What... GI and raytraced GI are completely different things, down to how they are done.
I'm trying to think how many people would actually fall for that and it doesn't make a lot of sense. "My 10 series GPU is crap its not even comptabile with ray tracing features I REALLY DO NEED to upgrade" vs "my 10 series GPU CAN run ray tracing features but its so crap at it I REALLY DO NEED to upgrade". And the benchmarks for RTX cards are aplenty to see how well they perform. Seems to me people who could afford the RTX gpus most probably already have one atm and this won't change that.
The dedicated hardware does make a substantial difference. E.g. The Titan V runs Q2VKPT at around 30fps at 1080p while the 2080 Ti cruises along in the triple digits (albeit barely).
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I mean, support was always there since the NES... :)
But yeah, I guess there will be next-gen games with some support for ray-tracing on the next-gen consoles and I guess devs will find tricks and smart solutions to shortcuts when doing ray-tracing but the difference to GPUs with dedicated hardware will increase even more when NV further develops their specific hardware. It will be either *way* better performance for them or *way* better looking - or even both. On AMD you are then locked to fixed hardware for years where you can "only" improve your algorithms while NV can both improve algorithms *and* their hardware.
I just don't expect major things when it comes to raytracing on the next-gen consoles, unless they also have some dedicated hardware in it.
You have no idea what RTX is and what it does and how it relates to DXR and Vulkan, do you?
I got mine recently too. This one
It'll be interesting to see if I can manage good performance on it by turning everything down besides texture quality and RTX. I literally would not even mind playing my games like that if they were playable.
1. More options.
2. Going forward, GPUs without RT fonctions might run less power hungry features such as shadows or reflections and keep the heavy stuff such as GI for RT based hardware.
3. Sales. It allows to promote and give everyone a taste of ray-tracing to convince them that it changes the way the game looks, yet your hardware isn't enough to get decent speed.
It would certainly kill the narrative that Turing cards are a scam.