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Rashida Tlaib boos Hillary Clinton on stage
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That's what we call "Unity" a cudgel to beat politicians in your party you don't like while you personally sow division and hostility.
Don't you just love it?
Hillary and Sarah Palin are birds of a feather. Both lost but both can't let go that public perception has moved on from them.
I voted Hillary in 2016, but the best thing she can do is move out of the way and let the left that want to take it to the GOP get their chance. She had her chance.
I voted Hillary in 2016, but the best thing she can do is move out of the way and let the left that want to take it to the GOP get their chance. She had her chance.
Annoying as fuck. My twitter feed is now full of people with checkmarks comparing Bernie to Trump. It's not even close to the same thing. It's almost like some people have multiple opinions about various parts of society and other politicians. You can be against Trump and also Hillary. Shit is really disappointing me.
Oh believe me, they know, just do not want to pay higher taxes, though. "Socially liberal but fiscally conservative", aka embrace progress but fuck the poor
Fiucking love that the progressive wing are pulling the party out from under the cooperate dems.
Love the smell of fear:D
Love the smell of fear:D
She deserved those takes when the story broke within a week of her loss that her husband and some campaign staff tried to coax her to campaign more in the midwest but she rebuffed their efforts. They understood she need to win those swing states and she failed to put in the effort.
I imagine it had a lot to do with the idea that being liberal = progressive
Imagine being offended at being booed by a progressive woman of color while you as a white liberal elitist wine mom war criminal worth hundreds of millions(who also happens to be a huge influence in society) open palm slaps progressives across the face pretty much every single chance you get, projecting your own actions onto them.
Hillary is the embodiment of the forces in the democratic party leftists are fighting against
"i pretend to care about social justice by caping for hollow identity politics, i am so far left and progressive. Actual progressive leftist values for socieoeconomic justice and intersectionalism ala MLK? WHat's that some kind of purity test?"
Unfortunately, for many centrist liberals, the idea of progressivism in practice ends up being little more than hollow tokenism so they can act like they are good people(the so called woke politics crowd) while otherwise catering to the broken status quo, which misses the entire point of social justice advocacy.
As a black minority who has to deal with the systemic failure of the white institution every day, it sucks.
Hillary is the embodiment of the forces in the democratic party leftists are fighting against
"i pretend to care about social justice by caping for hollow identity politics, i am so far left and progressive. Actual progressive leftist values for socieoeconomic justice and intersectionalism ala MLK? WHat's that some kind of purity test?"
Unfortunately, for many centrist liberals, the idea of progressivism in practice ends up being little more than hollow tokenism so they can act like they are good people(the so called woke politics crowd) while otherwise catering to the broken status quo, which misses the entire point of social justice advocacy.
As a black minority who has to deal with the systemic failure of the white institution every day, it sucks.
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Ah yes, the nebulous Bernie supporter that praises and celebrates George Wallace and Joe Rogan but also just happens to hate Hillary for fun. They're definitely out there, and I'm going to shake my fist at them.
I mean I'm pretty sure Hillary is at least partially responsible for a lot of deaths and unrest in the global world at large with her actions and policies, between Libya, Haiti, and other countries, but let's pretend she's the ally of progress and use her as a cudgel against a strawman we've created to feel better about ourselves.
Here's a full post of receipts if you want to keep tacitly defending Hillary.
Bernie's running for president, Hilary's running for...television specials, interviews.
If we can't even bring back basic 'this is serious politics, not fans rooting for sports teams' decorum in 2020 good luck with healthcare, etc.
The 'she did it first!' doesnt work in this example.
If we can't even bring back basic 'this is serious politics, not fans rooting for sports teams' decorum in 2020 good luck with healthcare, etc.
The 'she did it first!' doesnt work in this example.
The thing with a lot of rank and file libs is that there is a great deal of ideological overlap (esp foreign/econ policy) with the GOP/Trump, but their biggest issue is tone. So they see people excited at a rally and yelling == Trumpian. They have never been a part of a movement for anything, it's all aesthetic to them.
The Democratic Party is that friend that's trying to bang your significant other behind your back. I can't believe how far my opinion of the Party has plummeted since 2008.
tbh i don't know why you're trying to be incredulous about joe rogan's inclusion there because even a lot of folks on this very forum were riding his dick when he endorsed bernie
era isn't progressive, hope that helps
Clinton is also someone who gets tons of media airtime just for existing or making a statement. And she seems to love using that to great effect
Of course, its the left that are toxic and didnt do enough to help her win the nomination last time while she basically created the whole narrative of leftist being all white bros attacking women and minorities online with no points to make whatsoever, just like she tried to do with Obama and his so called "Obamaboys" in 2008.
Someone just cant take criticism well.
Hilary is one of many, many Democratic leaders whose commitment to "unity" and "civility" is hypocritical and dishonest. There's no point in playing that game knowing full well it won't be reciprocated.
It is fealty they want, not camaraderie.
It is fealty they want, not camaraderie.
Remember when Al Gore narrowly lost to Bush in 2000, and then instead of taking it gracefully he went on multiple interviews during the 2004 Democratic primary bashing a top candidate and complaining how they didn't do enough to support the party, all while taking very little responsibility for the previous election results?
yeah neither do i
yeah neither do i
can we not with language like this? You can dislike her, but this is pretty disgusting.
What are you even arguing here Bernie hasn't attacked Hillary. This is prime-time bothsides-ism. A supporter of Bernie booed her that's all. Yet somehow people are trying to turn this into a "why is bernie so toxic". He hasn't done anything.
"Praising and celebrating" indicates on some level agreeing with Rogan's terrible views. I find it to be a dishonest framing. I would wager most - perhaps, not all - were mostly happy that a very popular podcaster endorsed Bernie, rather than thinking Rogan was a person worthy of praise.
I personally wish the Bernie campaign didn't cut an advertisement and just silently took the endorsement. I don't blame people one bit for not liking it. But to use it as a way to frame Hillary positively rubs me the wrong way.
LOL.
Corporate Dems would rather set Queensbridge on fire on their way out.
Both these posts are terrible. Try to be critical of Hillary without resorting to ageist sexist rejoinders
This is why progressives hate this identity politics game centrist liberals try to play for "woke points"
www.mcsweeneys.net
Its always about identity representation, until its just a prop used to cynically act like your doing something without doing anything.
The people bashing Talib for calling out Clinton on her terrible attitude are showing their asses.
Your talking about a person who is literally a persecuted minority, who cant even visit their own grand mother because the US has a good relationship with the country who doesnt want her criticizing them as an apartheid state.
I Support Strong Women of Color Unless They Are Politically to My Left
For far too long, women of color have been silenced by the forces of white supremacy and patriarchy. Therefore, it’s important to recognize that wo...
www.mcsweeneys.net
Its always about identity representation, until its just a prop used to cynically act like your doing something without doing anything.
The people bashing Talib for calling out Clinton on her terrible attitude are showing their asses.
Your talking about a person who is literally a persecuted minority, who cant even visit their own grand mother because the US has a good relationship with the country who doesnt want her criticizing them as an apartheid state.
This is why progressives hate this identity politics game centrist liberals try to play for "woke points"
I Support Strong Women of Color Unless They Are Politically to My Left
For far too long, women of color have been silenced by the forces of white supremacy and patriarchy. Therefore, it’s important to recognize that wo...
Its always about identity representation, until its just a prop used to cynically act like your doing something without doing anything.
The people bashing Talib for calling out Clinton on her terrible attitude are showing their asses.
Your talking about a person who is literally a persecuted minority, who cant even visit their own grand mother because the US has a good relationship with the country who doesnt want her criticizing them as an apartheid state.
I agree with the underlined, thankfully there is like, nobody on ERA actually bashing Tlaib
Agreed. If you can't even win against the worst pos ever that run, then it's time to let go of your political ambitions.
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wow you love booing Hillary for openly bashing a dem frontrunner? You're basically a trump supporter 🤪🤪
I agree with the underlined, thankfully there is like, nobody on ERA actually bashing Tlaib
There are plenty of people out there bashing her disingenuously, my words are reserved for them wherever they are.
Also.....it should not be controversial in literally any sense to say "your support of minorities should be more than skin deep tokenism either for political advantage or fake moral righteousness". Because that's what progressives mean when they talk disparagingly from the left about identity politics.
You should make a separate thread for this because it absolutely needs to be discussed how white liberals use poc as tokens to hold up but "attack" them for "getting out of line" ie criticizing the very white power struction in America and the Democratic party..This is why progressives hate this identity politics game centrist liberals try to play for "woke points"
I Support Strong Women of Color Unless They Are Politically to My Left
For far too long, women of color have been silenced by the forces of white supremacy and patriarchy. Therefore, it’s important to recognize that wo...
Its always about identity representation, until its just a prop used to cynically act like your doing something without doing anything.
The people bashing Talib for calling out Clinton on her terrible attitude are showing their asses.
Your talking about a person who is literally a persecuted minority, who cant even visit their own grand mother because the US has a good relationship with the country who doesnt want her criticizing them as an apartheid state.
There are? I did a quick once over, can't really find anyone specific.
Maybe we can add on Joe Rogan to this and folks posting random twitter accounts using minorities of various kinds as a shield to support the choice of embracing Rogan, if you want to include contemporary events.
Decrying "identity politics" and saying this is bad are not the same thing. You can rightly call out bullshit when you see it without throwing the whole thing in the trash and painting with such broad strokes. It does your argument no favors
Or posters talking over minorities and telling them their concerns on racist terfs is just having fun on the internet.
Sure but{for the record i'm black and understand why Bernie retweeted Rogan's endorsement) this ties into white liberals trying to erase Sanders poc/non-white male/diverse support to paint this dumb bernie bros "white male/insert other stupid things they say" movement.
Sure, that can be a point on how things that can make some amount of political sense still probably shouldn't be done because it hurts others. Or are you saying this to shut up any discussion?
Also, before you start making idiotic statements insulting me: Fuck Joe Rogan and Bernie's campaign should not have tweet Rogan's endorsement.
and I'm non-binary and I can't really grasp why Sanders would want to openly embrace the endorsement of someone like Rogan.
So I guess I'm erasing myself by criticizing Sanders for going after a very specific demographic in the primaries that don't vote Democrat and making people question his commitment to social issues? Like, I don't think anyone is erasing Sanders supporters identity, I think talking about the type of people Sanders is clearly trying to court is completely valid discussion especially when it's paired with his words over the years regarding ID-Pol and his specific focus on economic equality.
Or maybe making blanket statements about identity politics is really dumb and doing it after specific events have transpired is actually not cool, especially when it's clearly just being weaponized by folks for personal internet arguments and not really actual discussion on the topic.