I didn't know Rashida Tlaib was a white male.
Is Neera Tanden one of the dumbest people in America or is she just pretending to be one?
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Rashida Tlaib boos Hillary Clinton on stage
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I didn't know Rashida Tlaib was a white male.
Is Neera Tanden one of the dumbest people in America or is she just pretending to be one?
Again how are the Bernie Bros similar to Trumpians?
Or is that another rethoric that Hillary Stans like to use ?
Again how are the Bernie Bros similar to Trumpians?
Or is that another rethoric that Hillary Stans like to use ?
Again how are the Bernie Bros similar to Trumpians?
This is funny to me, after what happened with the impeachment process.
The political institutions of most of the first world democratic countries are in shambles or seriously damaged and not because of populism.
Is because of how ineffective or downright rotten they are, a person like Trump can be still be on the office.
It really is fascinating.
Not only did Bernie vote for the bill, but he proudly displayed that vote along with his support for other disastrous tough on crime policies at the time.
She's probably thinking she's terrified of Bernie winning and will do anything to stop him because her entire life is built on the assumption that radical change for the better isn't possible. And it's not just her own material worth that relies on that assumption, but also how she sees herself as a smart and moral person.
I wouldn't be suprised if a lot of people who have strongly bought into third way politics reacts similarly, even though it appears on an intelectual level they know if Bernie is right and they're wrong it'd result in a better world overall.
Damn, completely erasing a female POCs autonomy, saying that she's only doing it to protect some old white man, instead of many other reasons she could be boo'ing? I would consider apologising for this post that is in extremely poor taste.
Yeah sounds like a great way to get the person you actually want to win more voters in a close primary.
If you ignore the bigotry that makes Trump, Trump, and focus on other qualities, it can sound believable. Takes a crazy amount of ignorance, but it's possible. lol
Good thing we have people like the woman in the squad who actually care about saying what's right rather being career politicians who uselessly toe the line.
Just requoting this for the Hillary defenders who keep ignoring it to say people on the left just dislike her because of media/GOP demonisation.
Both can't take responsibility of their actions
And
Both backstab their own party member that don't fall inline.
Hillary lost MI twice, and is deeply unpopular in this district (as she is in most places whose economies were once rooted in manufacturing.) As someone who lives here and supported Tlaib in 2018, my only concern is that she won out of a 4-way race for the Dem primary and could be vulnerable in that way. But she's also done a good job of both doing the small, quiet things that show up in constituent newsletters and being vocal in her opposition to the presidency and modern GOP, so I don't expect her to have a tough time this year. And I am very much looking forward to voting for her again.
I really think people should learn more about Hillary and MAYBE be a tad more sympathetic to the flawed human being she is
Completely unfairly maligned over her entire lifetime and career. Not making excuses for her mistakes as well but she isn't the fucking devil worthy of booing in my opinion
She lost in part because of the image and perception created from mountains of lies and any woman that tries to run for a position of power will be and HAS been subject to the same treatment through out our fucking history
Did we all forget that after the fact that she has been exonerated of damn near everything that was made up about her?
yeah the whole "people only dislike hillary because of right wing smears, russia, or theyre a sexist" is baffling
same folks usually be the type to call bernie supports cultists or whatever too
I was speaking more about the fact that no politician will ever lose face in MI for having a less-than-stellar reaction to Clinton. I'm not saying it's fair. But it's reality. Older white folks hate her for what they see as her role in NAFTA (yes, even though she didn't hold an elected position then, trust me) and because she didn't divorce her husband, among other things; her being the nominee absolutely pushed them to embrace their inner racists and vote for Trump because they *could not imagine* voting for Hillary Clinton. They taught this hatred to their children and it fucking worked. It's fucked, but the Democratic party chose that uphill battle when she won the nomination. Now we're still handwringing over it four years later; any woman who runs would of course be smeared (the expectation that there is any candidate who will ever run for a national election that won't be dragged through the streets is wild to me, as someone who remembers Swift Boating) but the absolute destruction of the public perception of Hillary Clinton is unique in my lifetime and the fact that 2016 Dem leadership didn't realize that she had already lost large swaths of the country before the first vote was cast is still stunning to me.
To centrists, anyone in the fringe looks the same. At least, that's the only explanation for comparing people who want a self-styled Socialist as President, to fans of a proto-fascist.
Talib doing it is meaningless.
Call me when Obama boos Hillary. Then we got something to talk about.
Call me when Obama boos Hillary. Then we got something to talk about.
You don't think a Palestinian American booing Hillary for shit saying shit like...
*Checks notes*
Rigging the Palestine election is not boo worthy?
I don't care much about Hillary getting booed. She can take it. And Tlaib has a right to express her views.
I just wanted to point out that everyone saying this is dangerous because the party needs to be unified didn't pay much attention to the Republican primaries in 2016. It was a shit show.
Every debate was Trump slinging insults and mocking other candidates. He would destroy his opponents on Twitter. He flat out called Ted Cruz's wife ugly and accused his dad of being involved in the Kennedy assassination. What about "Little Marco"? We could go on and on. Yet look at the country now.
I don't think the election in November will be decided by how unified the party is during the primaries.
I just wanted to point out that everyone saying this is dangerous because the party needs to be unified didn't pay much attention to the Republican primaries in 2016. It was a shit show.
Every debate was Trump slinging insults and mocking other candidates. He would destroy his opponents on Twitter. He flat out called Ted Cruz's wife ugly and accused his dad of being involved in the Kennedy assassination. What about "Little Marco"? We could go on and on. Yet look at the country now.
I don't think the election in November will be decided by how unified the party is during the primaries.
Close to where I am. I ignored Hillary and rolled my eyes but she seems harmless, to me. She's outside, looking in, almost at 'ok Boomer' levels, if not already there.
So booing Hillary just seems weird. I don't think it'll move the needle but I enjoyed that 2 days when it seemed like Sanders was above it all. Before the George Wallace quote came it.
I see a bit of scoffing from the usual establishment Dems on twitter. Their rhetoric is getting tiring.
Also people need to understand this is just Tlaib's nature. She was the one who was saying "impeach the motherfucker" about Trump back when she got elected. Watching the clip, it's not even a big deal. It's not vitriolic or attacking someone's skin or other qualities, she just doesn't like Clinton. Yawn. Ok boomer, etc. etc.
Also people need to understand this is just Tlaib's nature. She was the one who was saying "impeach the motherfucker" about Trump back when she got elected. Watching the clip, it's not even a big deal. It's not vitriolic or attacking someone's skin or other qualities, she just doesn't like Clinton. Yawn. Ok boomer, etc. etc.
It's not radical left enough for most people here; she's a moderate democrat that represents the status quo to a lot of people.
A lot of people on these forums overestimate how liberal the average person and average member of the democrat part she is.
Eh, that's a no thanks from me. She's doing good work for my/her district currently, plus there are dozens of better VP noms
If it only happens to people of color do white people really care?
If a black person gets shot in the street, and nobodys around to hear it, does it make a sound?
We passed that fam. In a world where the there are people in office trying their best to hurt people, ignoring shootings and seemingly encouraging it if they don't get their way, sensitivity ain't gonna help.
The Hillary-Bernie discussion is the most unimportant conversation to be having right now. Hillary isn't running and can say whatever the fuck she wants; Bernie is in a good spot right now and what Hillary is saying doesn't seem to make much of a difference on his numbers.
Besides... democracy died yesterday and this is what you guys want to fucking talk about? Booing?
Democrats keep snatching defeat from the jaws of victory when it matters, and part of the reason why is because we keep focusing an unnecessary amount of attention on stupid shit like this.
Besides... democracy died yesterday and this is what you guys want to fucking talk about? Booing?
Democrats keep snatching defeat from the jaws of victory when it matters, and part of the reason why is because we keep focusing an unnecessary amount of attention on stupid shit like this.
Go look at my post history and you can find posts where I criticize Biden heavily for his role in the crime bill and other bills he wrote and supported during his time as a senator. This thread isn't about Biden, that's why it's not being brought up.
Sanders was a well-documented critic of the bill, called it out directly for being racist at the time, but voted for it solely for the protections for women it contained knowing that the bill would pass with or without his support. I'm not happy he voted for it but at least he was on the record at the time criticizing the damn thing.
If your sole point was that Biden's role in the crime bill was far worse than Hillary's...sure, you are 100% right. That does not absolve her of openly spreading racist bullshit though.
I'm normally tired of basically anything relating to Hillary and wish it'll all just go away but this is just incredibly deserved with all the shit she's been stirring lately.
This is the best. You gotta love trash like Neera Tanden and all the rest wasting their energy losing their minds over this on Twitter.
FFS this election cycle is interminably unbearable just like the last one. Just get it over with so we can get a candidate to vote for against Trump.
She usually forgets what Bernie does. Should be a double topic along with this:
Sometimes I think about the unfathomable respect I would hold for Hillary Clinton if she had taken the worst L in electoral history and quietly retired at the end of a long and storied political career, emerging only to lend her considerable voice to whomever was opposed to the forces of darkness in this country.
Alas, here we are.
Alas, here we are.
Yea I try and avoid these threads but still can't help myself. Genuinely cannot stand primary season anymore.
The average Democrat is essentially a Republican-lite. That's why the DNC doesn't like Bernie. The DNC still loves to take corporate money and side with corporations at the expense of the people. The average Democrat is in politics for the game and the money, not to improve the country. The young Dems being elected like Tlaib and AOC absolutely terrify the older Dems, and that's why they get attacked constantly.
Oh, cool. Now then, find me those mean and offensive things that Bernie said to Hillary. Not attacks on POLICY and positions, mean things.
Show me ONE quote offensive enough to meet Hillary's absolute lies about Bernie not supporting her enough (39! rallies), or the one where she says that he is a career politician, no success, no one likes him, no one wants to work with him.
I'm waiting.
The article explicitly states Wallstreet is prepared to abandon the Democratic party if Warren is elected. You've spun that into a post suggesting Democrats themselves will support Trump to prevent a Progressive presidency. Do you not see how incredibly dishonest that is?
It's almost like these accusations that Bernie's campaign is a cult of personality are mere projection.
lol anyone who doens't know who she is has been living under a rock. Stop trying to pass off your ignorance as some sort of insult.
No one should be attacking a woc member of the squad. She is an icon for progressive values and is allowed to clap back at what hillary said. Funny, because I've seen many centrists try to prop up the squad when it's convenient , but the moment they stray from the party line it's full on "you're being divisive" "she should know her place" "she only won her district by 1%..."
for real what's that about?
better start getting behind Bernie Sanders because he's going to rock Iowa and New Hampshire and he's going to be our nominee. 🙋🏼♀️💁🏼♀️
for real what's that about?
better start getting behind Bernie Sanders because he's going to rock Iowa and New Hampshire and he's going to be our nominee. 🙋🏼♀️💁🏼♀️