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Randy Pitchford says Troy Baker turned down his Borderlands 3 role
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He's also been busy recording for TLoU II and Death Stranding. Plus all the animation work he does and the weekly YouTube series with him and Nolan.
Him and Nolan North have a youtube series!? Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa?
Is it that unlikely that both sides are being honest here? As in, the audio director reached out to Troy Baker early on to see if he was interested and what his quote would be; upon seeing the cost, the audio director reported back up the chain that it wouldn't fit the budget and they were going with another option. Sounds like the potential jerk move in all of this was Gearbox/audio director not closing the loop with Troy and telling them they were using somebody else.
Holy crap are people overthinking this.
Troy Baker turned down the first offer. They didn't make a second. He didn't know they moved on until the trailer came out. End of story.
Troy Baker turned down the first offer. They didn't make a second. He didn't know they moved on until the trailer came out. End of story.
I'm siding with Troy. I don't even need to know the story behind it. Randy's notorious for lying lol
Every time there's a story about a VA passing but they say they wanted to do the role, I assume a casting director talked to an agent, gave them a number, agent turned it down because it doesn't meet their number or fit their schedule and the VA never even hears it fell through.
I think it's well within the realm of possibility that they approached Baker but the role was small enough and Gearbox was budget constrained enough to make the pay/job too insignificant for one of the most prolific voice actors in the industry.
Oh shit wait sorry GEARBOX BAD, EPIC BAD
Oh shit wait sorry GEARBOX BAD, EPIC BAD
I took this as the replacement VA being a good sound-alike. But knowing Randy, he probably kills him off in the first 2 minutes of the game.
"Fortunately, with how Rhys appears in the game, I don't think it actually matters at all."
Is this supposed to be reassuring? Because it's not.
Is this supposed to be reassuring? Because it's not.
So, Rhys won't have his proper voice.
Randy says "it doesn't matter anyway the way he appears in the game".
Meaning Rhys doesn't really have an active role at all, meaning possibly then that Vaughn also will be probably minor and we could not at all get to see Fiona, Sasha or Loaderbot.
So basically none of the actually best cast in the Borderlands series could really be returning. Instead we'll probably have 15 hours of Claptrap jokes.
Randy says "it doesn't matter anyway the way he appears in the game".
Meaning Rhys doesn't really have an active role at all, meaning possibly then that Vaughn also will be probably minor and we could not at all get to see Fiona, Sasha or Loaderbot.
So basically none of the actually best cast in the Borderlands series could really be returning. Instead we'll probably have 15 hours of Claptrap jokes.
Neither person seems to be lying here. Sounds like there were early negotiations but they didn't agree. I doubt it's creative differences either, probably just about money. Apparently Troy Baker and Nolan North command higher fees now after getting more prolific.
It amazes me how they still don't understand what a massive turn off this is for fans. Namco did the same shit with Tales of Vesperia: Definitive Edition (coincidentally it was Troy Baker they didn't bring back) and my hype deflated almost instantly.
So either;
A) Troy's lying and turned down the gig, and is now trying to shame Gearbox into taking him back at a higher pay
B) Troy's agent turned down the gig for whatever reason, and didn't tell Troy.
C) Gearboxes audio director decided not to go with Troy, and gave Randy a half-assed explanation. Or,
D) Randy didn't want Troy and is lying, presumably because Troy is probably expensive and the role is small.
All are possible, but B and C are probably most likely as Randy and Troy have been quite public about wanting him to do Rhys again.
But one thing is for sure. Some is lying.
A) Troy's lying and turned down the gig, and is now trying to shame Gearbox into taking him back at a higher pay
B) Troy's agent turned down the gig for whatever reason, and didn't tell Troy.
C) Gearboxes audio director decided not to go with Troy, and gave Randy a half-assed explanation. Or,
D) Randy didn't want Troy and is lying, presumably because Troy is probably expensive and the role is small.
All are possible, but B and C are probably most likely as Randy and Troy have been quite public about wanting him to do Rhys again.
But one thing is for sure. Some is lying.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCx42AsHSKnjEfPXk0YiGCyw
Yep, and it's excellent! Just the two of them shooting the shit while playing retro games.
It probably isn't Rhys at all. You didn't have to kill Jack as I recall and they could use that as the canon ending, meaning in the years since Tales it's possible Jack has taken over.
As far as I understand it , you'll pull out Jack out of Rhys' skull no matter what happens. Rhys gets rid of all his cybernetic bits, therefore ending Jack. The choice you get is to destroy then the ripped out cybernetic eye or keep it, but I think at that point its more symbolic than anything.
Well Rhys is head of Atlas now so if he's not in it much then he probably dies somewhat quick.
Oh I know, he's just not in everything like he was last gen and the start of this one.
I don't believe a word that comes out of that man's mouth ever since he fucking lied so brazenly about Aliens: Colonial Marines so if it comes down to he said vs he said i'll be siding with Troy on this one.
Frankly Randy Pitchford is so toxic at this point he should really recuse himself from ever speaking on Gearbox's behalf, he single handedly brings down Gearbox's reputation every time he opens his mouth.
Frankly Randy Pitchford is so toxic at this point he should really recuse himself from ever speaking on Gearbox's behalf, he single handedly brings down Gearbox's reputation every time he opens his mouth.
Willing to bet that the role was just denied by an agent just based on the the significance of the role, or lack there of. Basically someone answering the phones for Baker saw the pitch and was like "Not even worth his time, click." and doesn't even mention it to Baker, which actually happens a lot.
Gearbox probably didn't really try to get him, only putting in minimal effort, expecting it to be denied.
Gearbox probably didn't really try to get him, only putting in minimal effort, expecting it to be denied.
Every time I see the name "Randy Pitchford" in a headline I cringe... Dude needs to go away. His reintroduction into the limelight with the announcement of Borderlands 3 is painful to witness.
Sounds pretty much identical to the Tales of Vesperia situation. Honestly think Troy's agent is screening a lot of this stuff out these days.
Oh man, you should have a look into the "gameplay demo" of Alien CM that Randy showed off that was drastically different from the final product. It's probably his "finest" work to day but the man has a serious history of being a massive fucking liability and should be trusted about as much as you would trust a swarm of piranhas swimming around your nether region.
Thanks for sharing this, this should be good. I enjoyed watching them together during the press blitz for Uncharted.
The best bit is Pitchford ghosting the author despite saying he'd tell his side of the story. He couldn't think of a way to wriggle out of the situation, so he just decided to pretend it never happened.
could have been an agent issue, or could have not been specifically called borderlands 3 when it was pitched to him. many possibilities that could make it so neither party is lying.
Yeah pretty much. Rather than negotiate Gearbox just decided not to and picked someone else.
Plus, if Randy is lying, he's throwing the audio director under the bus.
Very, very few voice actors can demand "higher fees". That said, Gearbox uses non-union Texas voice actors, and probably pays them around the same as Funimation's anime dubbing. The Tales from the Borderlands cast would have gotten the union video game rate which is a fair bit higher. So if Baker asked for the same rate he got on Tales, he would essentially be asking for more money than anyone else in the cast was getting. (Arranging for him to be recorded remotely in Los Angeles would also add to the cost.)
As this was said by Randy "colonial marines is good" Pitchford this just makes me believe more that what Troy Baker said is true.
Yeah, that's definitely why he keeps retweeting these
https://www.twitter.com/TroyBakerVA/status/1111372253797601282
https://www.twitter.com/TroyBakerVA/status/1111372406671630336
Not any more bizarre than someone refusing to buy a game that has microtransactions, we all place differenr values in the things we consume.
