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Racist Stereotypes in Smash Bros. Ultimates Spirits Mode
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Again, that Villager wasn't black as of the E3 build. Should they change it, certainly. But as I've been saying, I can understand why Tac's situation resulted in the way it did.
Are people serious with "DK is ok tho". Like fucking use Little Mac. He's the one from Punch Out. You can make him bigger. Jesus fucking Christ.
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Not surprised. Japanese culture is straight up fucked.
I try every thread I can my man. Also to your post about Bayo, that's what happens when people only pretend to be progressive and are actually just libs with no spine. Feels bad.
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You're talking about the company who had to completely change the Fire Temple song in Ocarina of Time.
Of course they care. They also did acknowledge the feather and changed it quickly.
They only commented on the feather for Mr. Game & Watch's side smash, which was promptly fixed in the Day 1 patch. However, they have yet to comment on the others......hopefully they get on that ASAP.
I haven't even touched that mode yet, but seeing this bullshit makes me not even want to play it until it gets fixed. 2018 and black people still get equated with monkeys. Like wtf man.
No, because people began to bring out this today. And considering the time we are, only in january this will be really changed, at best. If people make noise about it, of course.
Agreed but I'm not surprised at Nintendo's JPN branch missing the context. NoA needs to be more involved during development and/or do better at catching this sort of thing during localization.
The ears are purple, and they picked the villager that wears dark clothes, which makes sense. Tac is a thief. The issue is that they added the dark skin later.
It's not vague at all. He's the main character the same way Ryu is to Street fighter. The only difference is this isn't Street Fighter, it's Arms lol. But what I can see happening though is Twintelle getting in as the second character over Ribbon Girl, due to being more popular. Hopefully they don't prove me wrong :( Ribbon Girl did get a Mii costume where Twintelle didn't...
Lmao at "Fucking japanese" within the context of a post decrying stereotypes and bigotry.
Ok i'll go with you and say that both Bamco and Nintendo are to blame here. But they both get equal blame and not just NOA or NOE but Nintendo as a whole as well as Bamco.
I like how to try to find justification in something that's both racist and not true.
Naw man that saddest shit is you're racist and think you're helping.
It is true though? It comes off tone deaf, but the fight description even says he favors side special.
This. Villager is probably in his black alt because of Tac's attire.
Hopefully someone starts a twitter campaign to get this changed and to force Nintendo to stop selling games that sexualize minors.
Mr. Sandman is the penultimate challenge in Punch-Out on NES, and Donkey Kong is the penultimate challenge in the Wii game. When I saw they linked these two for the fight, I immediately saw it as a reference to that. The color change on DK is based on his more NES inspired skin tone, which I imagine is trying to further the link.
Spring Man isn't even that bad of a main character. I even did a whole thread analyzing his design & comparing him to other fighting game MCs that succeeded (Ryu) & failed (Liu King) to be the face of their respective IPs.
It's also common to make changes to things if it's ill-suited for a global audiences. As much as it would be good manners to learn social customs/norms of other countries, this is a matter that also poorly reflects some of the ugly and detrimental struggles with racism/stereotyping in NA.
I highly doubt it was done w/ intention. Its bad for sure but I am pretty sure it never went beyond "Oh Sandman is big and strong...so is DK" or "DeeJay does kicks and cartwheels....so does Diddy". Its a bad look but you have to remember that there aren't many black people in Japan and thus they often overlook shit like this...that doesn't automatically mean they are mean spirited pieces of shit tho.
so yeah in this specific circumstance, there is a justification for it. DK is generally used as the proxy for many big bodies. While yeah in this spot they should have just used a giant Mac instead but I don't think there was any ill intent involved. I think that they should alter it tho. (Not sure how you alter the deejay one tho)
Seriously. I went wide-eyed when I saw the Mr. Sandman fight pop up.
Dk is a reference to dk being a next to final boss in punchout wii.
I was planning on making a thread about the mr Sandman one. Really tasteless stuff by Nintendo.
It's like they specifically chose the most generic characters to be the faces of the series.
It was commented on due to it being found in public demos.
Villager was found in the leaks, and the rest were noticed after launch. It's why they were ready for Game and Watch
It's not because of him being strong, it's because he is a final boss in punchout wii.
shit i've been exposed!!I see a silhouette of a feather and loincloth there.
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in fact, if we are to examine the silhouette of the person in your avatar...
well well well what do we have here
or more than likely they simply where the first two characters made.
Representing black people as monkeys does not need any defense or justification. Like I don't fucking gt some of you and your explanations. I legit was playing spirits and was sitting their like "yo what the fuck is this bullshit". Your Punchout Wii (great game though) explanation does not soften any of this shit
This is how I took it as well, since I beat the Wii game. Still this stuff does seem a bit too coincidental, I mean people have to deliberately put these things in. I'm sure someone noticed.
If they wanted to reference that they should've made a DK (Boxing) spirit.
This is all very well and good, but they let slip an Animal Crossing game in 2013 that still didn't allow us to choose skin colour. 2013. I repeat, 2013.
Nah, it's a very common decision that the protagonist / leader is the most generic of all the characters.