she could have made her point (which is still a valid one, Labour have been shit at dealing with this stuff) without using that dumbass t-shirt.
I dislike Corbyn as much as the next person, and Riley is right in her anti-semitism campaigning and she undoubtedly gets tonnes of anti-semitic and misogynistic abuse.
BUT. This is absolutely the wrong way to go about it and really hypocritical and doesn't even come close to hitting the mark. It's completely idiotically provocative.
I don't know enough about the context to make that call. It's definitely in horrible taste and should be pulled and apologized for because the minimum level of awful this is is really fucking bad.
And no, Labour has not "done more to look into..." under Corbyn. Good lord. The "no actually hes the BESTEST" response to criticism is absolutely ridiculous.
I try not to look at UK news too much now I no longer have to live there.
But seeing David Baddiel post up about that was weird and he was being very serious about it.
I mean wtf?
Looking at the responses to that @GnasherJew tweet, it seems to be generic "criticise Israel and you're an anti-semite" stuff.So uh, where are the links to evidence that Corbyn or labor are anti semitic? Apart from the Dickens novel.
I'm not "just asking questions" I keep seeing the accusation but never the evidence. I'm way off on UK politics tho.
And no, Labour has not "done more to look into..." under Corbyn. Good lord. The "no actually hes the BESTEST" response to criticism is absolutely ridiculous
It erased your account, permanently with any luck
Also the David Baddiel who said that calling Winston Churchill a racist mass murderer for the 4 million lives lost in the Bengal Famine was anti-semitic because Hitler was worse.
Is there any evidence of actual, genuine antisemitism by Corbyn and Labour under him?
So uh, where are the links to evidence that Corbyn or labor are anti semitic? Apart from the Dickens novel.
A very strange comparison indeed. I didn't know Germany had colonial interest in India, nor the fact that there were many Jewish people there.
So uh, where are the links to evidence that Corbyn or labor are anti semitic? Apart from the Dickens novel.
I'm not "just asking questions" I keep seeing the accusation but never the evidence. I'm way off on UK politics tho.
Also, there's an unconscious anti-Semitic effect here: a woke instinct to highlight, correctly, the not talked-about-enough historical suffering of POC has somewhere in it, I think, an unspoken critique of the conventional sense of the singular evil of The Holocaust.
Rupert Murdoch and Paul Dacre said so, therefore it's safe to assume that Corbyn is ready to start a pogrom
Is there anti-semitism within the Labour party? Yes. Is there anti-semitism within the left in general? Yes.
That's because anti-semitism exists everywhere.
People who focus so overwhelmingly on the left and Corbyn get the side-eye from me. People like Rachel Riley who do so while ignoring/joking about racism against other groups get my derision.
Just complete fucking racist nonsense.
That's because anti-semitism exists everywhere.
People who focus so overwhelmingly on the left and Corbyn get the side-eye from me. People like Rachel Riley who do so while ignoring/joking about racism against other groups get my derision
Yep, you're right, this baddie fellow sure is willing to give historical racism perpetuated by Britain a pass. Fuck this guy
Singular evil, huh
Elkins reveals that the British detained not 80,000 Kikuyu, as the official histories maintain, but almost the entire population of one and a half million people, in camps and fortified villages. There, thousands were beaten to death or died from malnutrition, typhoid, tuberculosis and dysentery. In some camps almost all the children died.
The inmates were used as slave labour. Above the gates were edifying slogans, such as "Labour and freedom" and "He who helps himself will also be helped". Loudspeakers broadcast the national anthem and patriotic exhortations. People deemed to have disobeyed the rules were killed in front of the others. The survivors were forced to dig mass graves, which were quickly filled. Unless you have a strong stomach I advise you to skip the next paragraph.
Interrogation under torture was widespread. Many of the men were anally raped, using knives, broken bottles, rifle barrels, snakes and scorpions. A favourite technique was to hold a man upside down, his head in a bucket of water, while sand was rammed into his rectum with a stick. Women were gang-raped by the guards. People were mauled by dogs and electrocuted. The British devised a special tool which they used for first crushing and then ripping off testicles. They used pliers to mutilate women's breasts. They cut off inmates' ears and fingers and gouged out their eyes. They dragged people behind Land Rovers until their bodies disintegrated. Men were rolled up in barbed wire and kicked around the compound.
I ain't watching anything he's involved with. Fuck him and his salt and pepper stubble.If anybody needs evidence of how David Baddiel is an idiot who should be totally ignored then they just need to watch the latest season of Taskmaster. What a useless twat.
It's 'alright' for us Muslims to get dunked on, it is what it is.I am all for tackling antisemitism buuut trying to down play other racism struggle or whitewashing history is not the way.
I also hate how Labour is given shit for antisemitism and yet the Tories party get away with their Islamophobia and whenever it gets mention the Tories just bounce back with the Labour is antisemitism retort.
Given how condensing Channel 4 is with their "Send your complaint advert", you're probably right.
Channel 4 does not give a shit at all.
its fucking exhausting that some random smear campaign will 100% work when the other blatantly racist party just gets away scott free wtf
On the brink, mate. This struggle feels pointless.the anti-Corbyn bias in the UK media makes the US media look like Current Affairs or Jacobin in comparison. I don't know how leftists in the UK manage to stay sane, seriously
Yeah, that would do it, lmao.At least we don't have to suffer the US System of nearly every job in the country requiring a vote and a D or an R next to it, I think I would just stick my head in the oven.
We can at least enjoy the illusion the Conservatives don't run everything.
the anti-Corbyn bias in the UK media makes the US media look like Current Affairs or Jacobin in comparison. I don't know how leftists in the UK manage to stay sane, seriously
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Rupert Murdoch and Paul Dacre said so, therefore it's safe to assume that Corbyn is ready to start a pogrom
Is there anti-semitism within the Labour party? Yes. Is there anti-semitism within the left in general? Yes.
That's because anti-semitism exists everywhere.
People who focus so overwhelmingly on the left and Corbyn get the side-eye from me. People like Rachel Riley who do so while ignoring/joking about racism against other groups get my derision.
Just complete fucking racist nonsense.
David Baddiel? Known for his legendary sensitivity on matters of race, of course.
woops didn't mean to post that, how do i delete?
the anti-Corbyn bias in the UK media makes the US media look like Current Affairs or Jacobin in comparison. I don't know how leftists in the UK manage to stay sane, seriously
Yep. That was my point.
Statistically there was exact same level of anti-Semitism in the labour party under Blair, no one seemed to give a shit then. Anti semitism is deplorable and should be stamped out where ever it's found but the double standard is unbelievable.
It's almost like they're trying to smear the party that is going against the interests of capital and "enlightened centrists" are eating that shit up, even in this very thread.It is and what really pisses me off is how much the media is overplaying anti semitism in the Labour Party, but massively under playing Islamaphobia in the Conservative Party.
But unfortunately, Britain are racist/Islamaphobic against Muslims, so or course the media will downplay it.
This was Baddiels justification for the blackface too
He refuses to apologise and thinks he was actually saying something smart there. The man is a massive massive prick.
Why do you think people in the UK are known for their "stiff upper-lip", miserable attitude, and being overly self deprecating? People get conditioned here to just get used to their shit and know you can't do anything about it
When you fuck up, what do you do? Go on about the far-left!
Because you know, Corbyn is far-left or something.
comparing yourself to RDJ in Tropic Thunder after you get in trouble for doing blackface is some next level smart-dumbguy shit. using that as cover requires a level of self-awareness lower than a Sacha-Baron Cohen character
This is the british version of "Biden is against weed, I'll guess he's bad as Trump" bullshit?