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Question about Moana(Spoiler)

TaySan

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Towards the end of the movie when Moana tries to get to the Te Fiti island a second time the Ocean helps her get to the island when her ship gets wrecked.

......Why couldn't the ocean just bring her to the island in the first place? Would have saved her and us a lot of time! Ok I know it's a movie, but c'mon!
 
BasilZero

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TaySan said:
......Why couldn't the ocean just bring her to the island in the first place?
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BDS

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The point of the movie is that she needs to learn to believe in herself, if the ocean just brought her straight to Te Fiti she wouldn't have the appropriate skills to deal with the "villain."
 
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TaySan

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BDS said:
The point of the movie is that she needs to learn to believe in herself, if the ocean just brought her straight to Te Fiti she wouldn't have the appropriate skills to deal with the "villain."
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I guess your right about that, but I would imagine the Ocean doing most of the work(clearing the path for her etc) and all she had to do was place the heart of Te Fiti. I'm way overthinking this lol
BringBackSonics said:
The ocean wanted to make her work for it 🤷‍♂️
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That Ocean is such a jerk lol
 
Strider_Blaze

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I mean, there were a couple of hurdles that she needed to accomplish like find Maui, then his hook and give him the confidence to properly use it again. And of course the character development she has probably wouldn't be happening.
 
Thequietone

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Pilgrimzero said:
Why didn't Gandalf just use the Eagles to fly the One Ring to Mnt Doom and drop it in?
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Because Gandalf wasn't an idiot. Like does everyone forget the eagles were flesh and blood? They aren't airplanes made of metal. There is a reason why there is only about 12 eagles left in middle earth when there used to be hundreds of thousands.
 
Penny Royal

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Thequietone said:
Because Gandalf wasn't an idiot. Like does everyone forget the eagles were flesh and blood? They aren't airplanes made of metal. There is a reason why there is only about 12 eagles left in middle earth when there used to be hundreds of thousands.
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Yeah, but even if they didn't get them too Mt Doom they still could've dropped them off somewhere close and saved all the trekking through Moria, conflict with the Balrog L, Frodo not so much in thrall to the ring so he just drops it in blah di blah,
 
AnansiThePersona

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The Ocean is a dick. Wasted her time and had her put her life in danger countless times. Worst Disney companion. Lazy fuck.
 
Septimus Prime

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Yes, the ocean could have resolved the entire plot by itself, but it didn't want to.

To be fair, though, it's not like it would be adversely affected either way.
 
Duane

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Imagine that the ocean is playing a JRPG, and Moana is the player character. The ocean has to level her up, grinding for XP by fighting Maui and Tamatoa, and the coconut guys. She's not high enough level to beat Te Fiti until she grinds up for a while.
 
SchrodingerC

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An equal question: why the fuck were those coconut creatures in the movie? A truly pointless scene beyond highlighting the rooster as the worst sidekick.
 
Blackpuppy

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SchrodingerC said:
An equal question: why the fuck were those coconut creatures in the movie? A truly pointless scene beyond highlighting the rooster as the worst sidekick.
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It's not pointless: it show us how great of a sailor Maui is for one. It's shows how much the stone is coveted by various monsters (as told in the opening) and it's a great little action scene.

And Heyhey gets the most laughs in my household out of any other animal sidekick.
 
SchrodingerC

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It's not pointless: it show us how great of a sailor Maui is for one. It's shows how much the stone is coveted by various monsters (as told in the opening) and it's a great little action scene.

And Heyhey gets the most laughs in my household out of any other animal sidekick.
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They could've shown Maui's skills with another scene, rather than having the movie screech to a halt. The coconut creatures were uninteresting in the grand scheme of things.

At least someone's being entertained by that rooster.
 
Pekola

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Because if Moana had gone to Te Fiti as she was at the beginning of the movie, she wouldn't have been able to restore her heart.

The movie revolves around understanding who you are (they have like three songs dedicated to that lol). During the journey, Moana discovers who she's meant to be—and through that, she's able to understand and guide others in discovering their own path—First with Maui, then with Te Fiti, and lastly, her own people by reviving the tradition of being voyagers.
 
Cheerilee

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DarthSpider said:
Maui gave us the reason. He said the ocean is straight up kookie dooks.
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Also Maui: "The ocean doesn't help you. You help yourself."

Vincent Alexander said:
Because the ocean is wise and forces Moana to go on a journey to not only discover the true fate of Te Fiti but to discover her true self. OoooooOooOooooo
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Which is why the ocean killed Moana's father's best friend. Because that guy needed to learn death, and Moana's dad needed to learn fear.
 
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Kyser73 said:
Yeah, but even if they didn't get them too Mt Doom they still could've dropped them off somewhere close and saved all the trekking through Moria, conflict with the Balrog L, Frodo not so much in thrall to the ring so he just drops it in blah di blah,
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It's commonly said that the Eagles are proud beings, rarely deign to undertake favors for other creatures, and find ferrying people on their backs beneath them. The times where they show up in the books have more to do with their begrudging relationship with the wizards than their willingness to be Middle Earth's taxi service. Not to mention even for them people are heavy.

There's also the fact that as pretty much angelic creations, they're much, much more susceptible to the Ring's corruption than Hobbits or even Men and Elves are.
 
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SchrodingerC said:
An equal question: why the fuck were those coconut creatures in the movie? A truly pointless scene beyond highlighting the rooster as the worst sidekick.
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The rooster is a terrible sidekick and Pua is much better but that scene was fucking stunning visually
 
Arkeband

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I like Moana but it's a series of barely related vignettes that they strung together into a movie. Remember the random coconut pirate segment? Had nothing to do with anything.
 
Rune Walsh

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The same reason I don't do my daughter's homework for her; she won't learn anything.
 
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