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About time!
They previously announced that liquor/cannabis stores would require a vaccinal passport starting on January 18th.
Hopefully it's only the begining!
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Quebec announces a new health tax for unvaccinated people [Up: government backs down]
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About time!
They previously announced that liquor/cannabis stores would require a vaccinal passport starting on January 18th.
Hopefully it's only the begining!
Antivaxx were already comparing pro-vax people to nazis, can't wait to see what they'll say about this....
This is great, should be incentive enough for some of them.
I get the sentiment but mind you gleefully saying you want more limitations for the unvaccinated just gives them more ammo to victimize themselves.
Hope the stick is effective.
Stateside, I'd be interested in insurance companies announcing that surcharges/co-pays for unvaccinated people in hospitals will be X percent higher. There can still be some waiver system, but we're a country that can only think about dollars and cents.
Stateside, I'd be interested in insurance companies announcing that surcharges/co-pays for unvaccinated people in hospitals will be X percent higher. There can still be some waiver system, but we're a country that can only think about dollars and cents.
Just take a peek at the good ol' CBC comment section and you'll quickly get your answer
I'm literally thinking about moving across the river to Gatineau, because Dougie would never jump on a political grenade like this and do the right thing lol
First and last time I hope the Notwithstanding clause is used so this cannot be challenged.
Tired of our day to day lives being dictated by the vocal minority
We'll see what the SC says about the OSHA mandate but I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be legal here. I don't know the laws in Canada so I can't comment on the legality of it there.
Good. I had enough of these idiots whining about freedom and dictatorship, bothering kids at school and hospital employees because they take their "news" from nobodies on Facebook, Youtube or Twitter and then making up 50% of the hospitalizations despite being 10% of the population.
Still won't stop the rich ones though, I guess.
Still won't stop the rich ones though, I guess.
Liquor/Cannabis stores have been requiring proof of vaccine here for months, and legit, there are plenty of people who have gone and gotten vaccinated for that reason alone. I remember I was in the pot shop a couple months ago and some girl walks in who wasn't vaccinated, and they told her she can't come in unless she gets her shot. She aksed right away "okay, where can I go get this shot" (yes, some people are that oblivious), they pointed her towards the walk-in clinic and she literally started walking right in that direction.
I'm all for taxing the shit of anti-vaxxers too. Whatever it takes to push them over that line is worth it imo.
I'm all for taxing the shit of anti-vaxxers too. Whatever it takes to push them over that line is worth it imo.
For real. Couple weeks ago there was a demonstration outside one of our clinics where parents were getting kids vaxxed. And they were screaming at the parents with megaphones they were murderers and that the kids were going to die. Like fuck off. Im so sick of these twats.
I hope its successful and i hope the rest of the provinces follow suit. Im glad its a small minority in this country...but goddamn its such a vocal annoying one.
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I mean, I'm sure this will lead to healthcare taxes against other "undesirable" people which we should not have. Fat folks & disabled folks will be next, since we're already considered acceptable fodder for the sake of the economy.
Being fat and disabled are not contagious viruses. No one would stand for that. Quit it with the "slippery slope" shit. People need to get vaccinated or else face reprucussions.
that's garbage antivax rethoric . You should be ashamed of yourself.
Smokers pay higher premiums, alcoholics pay higher premiums... there are multiple examples of people paying higher insurance rates due to their life choices in the United States so this wouldn't be unprecedented.
You can't be on an organ recipient list if you aren't fully vaccinated. Shit has consequences. Go cry
You can't be on an organ recipient list if you aren't fully vaccinated. Shit has consequences. Go cry
I'm sure it will stand. Canadians don't need to worry about, say, a conservative 6-3 theocratic Supreme Court majority that I have to live with in the US!
Not sure how they'll be collecting the bills, will they send bailiffs on non-payers? If so, I hope they milk 'em dry enough so that keeping track of all of these non-vaxxed non-payers isn't more expensive than the money they bring in, lol
If they're able to get a free vaccine but choose not to and continue to be a burden on society and our health care system, two years into this, they deserve more consequences. It's past time for them to do their part if they want to continue to participate in society.
I don't believe these in particular are good things. We should be helping people with addictions and not punishing them.
This is, of course, different from a vaccine tax.
Everything they don't agree with is socialism/communism/Nazism. Sometimes all three at the same time.
Are you Canadian? They generally don't send bailiff's to collect taxes here. It'll be a line item on your provincial income tax. And they know if you are vaxxed or not, so if you check the wrong box you're going to end up paying that "unvaxxed tax" + face tax fraud charges which will probably be significantly higher than the tax being levied in the first place.
The vaccine doesn't "make you a spreader," (nor does it prevent transmission) it reduces the likelihood you'll need an ICU bed if you do catch it. Which in turn reduces the strain on the health care system.
They're putting an extreme burden on the health care system with their stubborn refusal to get vaccinated, so it's only fair.
I can see a slippery slope argument in this, but critical times call for critical measures.
I can see a slippery slope argument in this, but critical times call for critical measures.
I feel like this is good, but absolutely should be taxed on percentage income imo. Don't just make it so rich people can just pay their way out
While I understand your sentiment, there are lots of programs for helping people battle addiction. Lung cancer and cirrhosis are costly diseases that leave everyone paying more as a result.
I'd much rather have universal health care but until we get there, those things that are easily preventable drive up Healthcare costs for everyone.
Do you live in Quebec? Have you seen all the laws surrounding tobacco? Have you seen how a pack of cigarettes looks here?
I am Canadian. But I watch/read my news in French and they didn't specify if it was a tax or a fine (they called it a "contribution"), so it was a bit unclear on how it would be collected. A line on the income tax filing might make sense, but not everyone files for taxes (very low income people don't have to, I believe?) so while it's likely to be that, I'm not sure if that'll necessarily be the case.
In any case, I wasn't entirely serious about the bailiffs, but ultimately refusing to pay taxes can result in something like the government coming in to seize your assets, lol
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Hmm, no. It's not. And I'm not ashamed of myself. I'm a fat, disabled person who has to navigate healthcare which is already fraught. I've spent the last 22 months holed up in my home, with very little time seeing my friends & family. I've gotten my shots, literally as soon as I could, because not doing so is probably a death sentence for me. All the while hearing that people, like me, with pre-existing conditions are acceptable deaths. I'm pretty fucking tired of all of this, and I want it all to end. But this isn't going to help it to end. This isn't the right lever to pull, as great as it feels.
Getting more people vaccinated is always, always the right lever to pull. We can only hope more provinces do this (they probably won't). Let's do mandatory shots in schools next, like we had for the rest of the things we needed to enter schools for (Hep, MMR, etc)
Yeah, getting more people vaccinated is the right lever to pull. Punitive punishments like this are not the best way to get that done. I'm fine with mandatory shots to get into schools, on planes, in bars, etc. I'm totally against financial punishments like this, again, even though the thought feels good.
The smaller sticks haven't worked on these people, so hitting them in the wallet with a larger stick is most certainly going to increase the amount of people who go out and get vaccinated.
One of my friend who's got a crazy girlfriend, who scared away his hole family is ... an antivax. So is his girlfriend.
I hope this is what pushes him and her to get vaxxed. they are on a tight budget.
I hope this is what pushes him and her to get vaxxed. they are on a tight budget.
I do not and I was speaking about the United States as the poster mentioned it. Though, I don't think anyone should punish those with substance abuse issues.
There are tons of programs to help people curb their addictions.Québec sans tabac : portail de la lutte contre le tabagisme
I'm glad! But as we know, sobriety isn't a straight line and it's not instant.
Battling addictions is hard. Alcoholics, for example, often relapse. We shouldn't punish them for it. Now, transplants is a harder issue because there are only a limited number of organs so I understand why people with drinking abuse issues may not get organs.
The problem is this would include things like Diabetes which is costly and people have a hard time controlling it because they may make poor dieting choices.
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