Quantic Dream receives investment from NetEase to develop next-gen games; also going multi-platform

[tyfon]

thats a pretty damn low bar my dude. most studios youve ever heard of could classify as a prestige studio by that metric lol

ERA was also an outlier when we included Detroit on that list, majority of outlets didnt

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Like it or not, this is the enthusiast forum and the enthusiast rated it one of the best games this year. I'd trust us much more than the main stream.
And it fits very well with the Sony "we make the best game in x category".

Prestige doesn't have to mean best seller or wins the most game of the years in the mass media.

 

[Premium]

Sony's exclusive list just got shorter heading into next generation.

While not a fan of QD games, I'm sure others will be excited for this news.

 

[Fredrik]

Sony own the I.P of 2 of them (Beyond and Detroit) and it's pretty unlikely they let Heavy Rain be released anywhere else. Their game before that is on PC already.

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Ah okay that's too bad

 

[Burrman]

Good. I was scared MS was gonna purchase them. Can't stand their games. Not for me at all.

 

[WhovianGamer]

Without the huge 1st party marketing's push, it'll be interesting interesting to see how they compete.

 

[John Harker]

Excited for the big stuff I hear is in the works from them, they've already started some notable investments.

Then again, I'm a fan of their games already so

 

[Zukkoyaki]

I can see them taking the DONTNOD route and working on multiple smaller games rather than AAA projects that take 4-5 years.

 

[Ardiloso]

No, thank you.
Keep em Sony.

 

[Mr. Fantastic]

Like it or not, this is the enthusiast forum and the enthusiast rated it one of the best games this year. I'd trust us much more than the main stream.
And it fits very well with the Sony "we make the best game in x category".

Prestige doesn't have to mean best seller or wins the most game of the years in the mass media.

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You are being extremely generous to QD. They haven't even had a game rated about 90 Metacritic and their last two games have been sub 80.

So they're not best sellers (and why would you even bring this up? It has no bearing on prestige), they don't win any GOTY awards and their reviews can be summed up as "good". What makes them a prestige studio again?

 

[Alandring]

You're not losing a thing. Why do you care if others can play the games?

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How did you lose anything? You don't play non-exclusive games at all?

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I already explained it:

For two main reasons.

First, a game isn't only made by the developper. The publisher plays a big role and we have many examples of that. For Marvel's Spider-Man, Disney contacted Sony, not Insomniac ; the game wouldn't have been the same if it was published by Activision.

Detroit was the best Quantic Dream game and Sony is probably the best publisher for single player console games. I'm not sure the sequel will be as good without Sony.

Secondly, I have all consoles so I don't care about consoles, but I want the video game industry continue to grow. I want that PlayStation 5 sells better than PlayStation 2, I want that Xbox (2020) sells better than Xbox 360 and I want that Nintendo Switch 2 sells better than Nintendo DS. It needs many things, but I think that one of the most important one is exclusives. I want that Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo release more AAA exclusives each year, in more varied genres. And for that, they need more first party studios and more second party studios, not less.

It's maybe a good thing for Quantic Dream (I'm not sure), but I can't see how it could be a good thing for Sony.

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[tyfon]

You are being extremely generous to QD. They haven't even had a game rated about 90 Metacritic and their last two games have been sub 80.

So they're not best sellers (and why would you even bring this up? It has no bearing on prestige), they don't win any GOTY awards and their reviews can be summed up as "good". What makes them a prestige studio again?

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To put it simple, they make the best games in their category. That is something Sony strives for and that makes it a matter of prestige for them.

 

[HMD]

Even though I really enjoyed Detroit, and I think it's by far the best looking game on PS4. I feel like as long as David Cage is heavily involved the studio won't evolve. I think Kojima can be the new David for Sony.

 

[Putty]

From a business point of view makes perfect sense. From a gamer perspective...more peeps can enjoy on their prefered platform.

 

[canseesea]

Their game ended up as #10 on the ERA game of the year list, that's not by accident.

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No, definitely not an accident. That's more of a "terrible, terrible mistake that we should all be ashamed of" sort of thing.

 

[Mr. Fantastic]

To put it simple, they make the best games in their category. That is something Sony strives for and that makes it a matter of prestige for them.

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Uhhh you musn't play a lot of adventure games

 

[Landy828]

These kind of games need first-party hype and marketing. I think Suppermassive's next game will sell a lot less on 3 platforms than Until Dawn on PS4 only. I hope that won't happed with QD.

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Until Dawn would have sold far, far, far more copies as a multi-platform game (especially if you toss in PC sales over time). I'm ready for the days of unified multi-platform games where you just pick the level of hardware you want to play it on. Be it a "lower-end" console or a "high-end" PC like setup. I've reached that point where I'm tired of buying every single console maker's system plus building a gaming PC too. I've probably quit that from here on out. I've bought/owned nearly every major console since the late 80's, and that will probably end with this next generation, despite having more disposable money than I ever had growing up.

My vote is for an all multi-platform future. :-p

Spoiler

I know it's not happening any time soon.

 

[Aters]

I already explained it:

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Both of your points are moot. Sony is not a better publisher than anyone. Disney contacted Sony because Sony Movie owns Spiderman, not because of Sony's exquisite ability in game publishing. Second, the industry grows on software, not hardware. The game industry has grown tremendously from a decade ago, yet with fewer consoles sold in total. The best way to grow software is to put them on as many platforms as possible. In this way the developers, the ones that actually make the games, get the best reward.

 

[daniel77733]

Jeez...NetEase throwing out $100m here and there.

Haven't played Detroit yet but really enjoyed the short playable demo so I am looking forward to playing it at some point this year. It's definitely a hit to Sony in regards to their exclusives but at the same time, I can see not wanting to give Quantic Dream $100m up front. Either way, looking forward to seeing their next game.

 

[IIFloodyII]

Both of your points are moot. Sony is not a better publisher than anyone. Disney contacted Sony because Sony Movie owns Spiderman, not because of Sony's exquisite ability in game publishing. Second, the industry grows on software, not hardware. The game industry has grown tremendously from a decade ago, yet with fewer consoles sold in total. The best way to grow software is to put them on as many platforms as possible. In this way the developers, the ones that actually make the games, get the best reward.

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Wrong, Marvel contacted Sony because they wanted them to give 1 of their I.P the 1st party treatment and a publisher can be very important for a studio, they offer a lot if support if they are a good one. Sony have the best pipeline in the industry for big cinematic games according to an Insomniac dev for example. We'll see how QD do without though, I'm sure they learned a lot in that time.

 

[Adamska]

To put it simple, they make the best games in their category. That is something Sony strives for and that makes it a matter of prestige for them.

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Detroit is on a whole different level in terms of player choice and the sheer number of consequences borne from said choice, and that makes that game one of the best adventure titles I ever played.

for big cinematic games

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I'm sure someone will reply to this with some variation of the ol' "all Sony games are the same" spiel.

 

[Deleted member 23381]

Cool, hope they continue to make interesting but flawed games.

 

[Deleted member 6730]

Guess Quantic Dream won't be able to develop that Winnie the Pooh game.

 

[GarthLordOfTheSith]

I was kinda hoping Sony would get them to bolster their worldwide studios, but as long as QD can keep making games I really don't give a shit who owns them.

 

[Alandring]

Both of your points are moot. Sony is not a better publisher than anyone. Disney contacted Sony because Sony Movie owns Spiderman, not because of Sony's exquisite ability in game publishing.

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No, that's absolutely not true.

Second, the industry grows on software, not hardware. The game industry has grown tremendously from a decade ago, yet with fewer consoles sold in total. The best way to grow software is to put them on as many platforms as possible. In this way the developers, the ones that actually make the games, get the best reward.

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Both are important. I think consoles are very important for the video game industry, because it's the ecosystem with the best games. I have no problem with mobile games, but I want more AAA like Red Dead Redemption 3, Horizon : Zero Dawn, Monster Hunter: World and I think these games wouldn't released without consoles. Even The Witcher 3, the third entry of a PC franchise, did most of its sales on consoles.

 

[Deleted member 20297]

Sony should have bought them. Oh well, hope we get new Detroit stuff at least.

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Why are you not happy that more people can enjoy their games now?

 

[Memento]

Why are you not happy that more people can enjoy their games now?

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I have already answered

Basically, I cant see any other company giving the AAA budget Sony provided to Quantic Dream for their kind of games

I fear we may see a change of direction from their storydriven SP only games

 

[Budi]

Excellent news! Haven't had much of a chance to play their games, but luckily got to experience Detroit. It was very good. Hopefully the next one is even better.

Stuff like Life is Strange and most of Telltale's games did well enough without the need of being first party

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Most of Telltale games definitely didn't do well. Minecraft and first season of Walking Dead did. They had insanely popular IP:s to work on too, yet failing commercially even if not usually critically.

 

[BuBu Jenkins]

Hopefully this doesn't mean they'll abandon their AAA high budget story branching games to focus on mobile and other low budget shit without Sony's backing.

 

[dunkzilla]

Glad they're going multiplatform. Good news for everyone.

 

[yuraya]

Sony messed up. All that PS4 and PS+ money they are swimming in this gen..and they let both Supermassive + Quantic Dream go multiplat.

 

[TechnicPuppet]

I already explained it:

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I just completely disagree with every single thing you said. Sony bring nothing but money and it's coming from someone else now.

 

[Renfran]

Just because they've been bought by another company does not mean they'll stop making exclusive games for Sony, even if they make multiplatform ones. You can have both. They have a longstanding relationship with Sony with multiple games over the years so it doesn't take much to figure out there's going to be more collaborations in the future.

 

[Thorrgal]

hold up

how in the hell is QD a prestige studio

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Can't you read? I said was

 

[Mr. Fantastic]

Can't you read? I said was

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Can't you finish writing a coherent thought?

You said you was what?

 

[entrydenied]

This is probably more about getting their games into China.

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I wonder whether their games will get pass their media regulation board, whatever the name is.

 

[Cess007]

Both of your points are moot. Sony is not a better publisher than anyone. Disney contacted Sony because Sony Movie owns Spiderman, not because of Sony's exquisite ability in game publishing.

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Why people keep saying this bs? I mean, we've Insomniac people come here and explicity say literally the opposite of this.

 

[Thorrgal]

Can't you finish writing a coherent thought?

You said you was what?

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LOL!

WAS a prestige studio, not IS

 

[Mr. Fantastic]

LOL!

WAS a prestige studio, not IS

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Yeah they've never been a prestige studio though, I'll just quote my other post:

You are being extremely generous to QD. They haven't even had a game rated about 90 Metacritic and their last two games have been sub 80.

So they're not best sellers (and why would you even bring this up? It has no bearing on prestige), they don't win any GOTY awards and their reviews can be summed up as "good". What makes them a prestige studio again?

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By what metric do you define being a prestige studio?

 

[Thorrgal]

Both of your points are moot. Sony is not a better publisher than anyone. Disney contacted Sony because Sony Movie owns Spiderman, not because of Sony's exquisite ability in game publishing. Second, the industry grows on software, not hardware. The game industry has grown tremendously from a decade ago, yet with fewer consoles sold in total. The best way to grow software is to put them on as many platforms as possible. In this way the developers, the ones that actually make the games, get the best reward.

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Lol again with this lie...amazing XD

Yeah they've never been a prestige studio though, I'll just quote my other post:



By what metric do you define being a prestige studio?

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They make award winning, technical impressive games (my exact quote talked about prestige games as well, not prestige studio)

 

[Renfran]

Both of your points are moot. Sony is not a better publisher than anyone. Disney contacted Sony because Sony Movie owns Spiderman, not because of Sony's exquisite ability in game publishing. Second, the industry grows on software, not hardware. The game industry has grown tremendously from a decade ago, yet with fewer consoles sold in total. The best way to grow software is to put them on as many platforms as possible. In this way the developers, the ones that actually make the games, get the best reward.

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This is all completely false.

 

[etta]

Nice, I love QD games.

 

[TheGhost]

It's better to have these games on multiple systems, end of story.

Devs should be able to sell to as many people as possible

 

[tyfon]

By what metric do you define being a prestige studio?

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You have already been given answers to that and your reply of "lol you don't play many games" doesn't counter those arguments.

 

[Mr. Fantastic]

Lol again with this lie...amazing XD


They make award winning, technical impressive games (my exact quote talked about prestige games as well, not prestige studio)

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There are plenty of technically impressive games, that doesn't make them prestige games or whatever.

What awards has Detroit won?

You have already been given answers to that and your reply of "lol you don't play many games" doesn't counter those arguments.

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Your argument was "they make the best games in their genre". Do you realize what a low bar that still is? Psyonix makes the best race car soccer game, does this make them a prestige studio?

 

[GustyGardens]

NetEase putting that money to work. They also invested some money with Bungie not too long ago.

 

[tyfon]

Your argument was "they make the best games in their genre". Do you realize what a low bar that still is? Psyonix makes the best race car soccer game, does this make them a prestige studio?

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I don't think that making the best current adventure games is a low bar no.

 

[Thorrgal]

There are plenty of technically impressive games, that doesn't make them prestige games or whatever.

What awards has Detroit won?

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Lol seems that not only you can't read but you refuse to learn?

I said were, remember?

 

[Mr. Fantastic]

I don't think that making the best current adventure games is a low bar no.

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yeaaaaaaaah if your whole metric is going "it won the ERA vote" by that reasoning Ubisoft Montreal is a prestige studio too, they won Best Shooter. I guess Camelot is a Nintendo prestige studio since they won best sports game?

Lol seems that not only you can't read but you refuse to learn?

I said were, remember?

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this is hard for you isn't it? go ahead, tell me which awards Beyond won. Or how far back do you want to go? When did they make prestige games?


This is such a stupid discussion by the way. What a nonsense term.

 

[N.47H.4N]

Good luck for QD,I hope they still deliver great games and expand their fanbase.

 

[tyfon]

yeaaaaaaaah if your whole metric is going "it won the ERA vote" by that reasoning Ubisoft Montreal is a prestige studio too, they won Best Shooter. I guess Camelot is a Nintendo prestige studio since they won best sports game?

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This is such a stupid discussion by the way.

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I don't see them anywhere near the top 10 list (or top 20 for that matter).

But yeah, this is getting ridiculous and I think we better leave the discussion as it's not really on topic.
Personally I'm happy with the fact that they are not gobbled up and can still be independent.