From the studio that brought you garbage stories with terrible racist depictions of black people and hundreds of photoshop pictures of employees made to mock them without their consent comes their enlightened take on racism.
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Quantic Dream co-CEO de Fondaumière tweets "All lives matter" and promotes their game (deleted it, added BLM, but still promotes game)
- Thread starter Kenzodielocke
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even without knowing the American context of "all lives matter", this is an extremely problematic take. How the fuck could a movement trying to stand up for systematically murdered black Americans be racist? And if you don't know that's what BLM is about, you probably shouldnt be tweeting about it or in this thread at all
Yeah, comes across as super opportunistic. Not a good look at all, especially coupled with the original tweet.
Yep, perfectly said. Only made worse by the fact that this is after literal depictions of concentration camps, so I guess Cage was trying to tell us that the jews simply should have not resisted and sung a song together to stop the Nazis.
Imagine if Sony promoted the June 4th PS5 unveiling in their statement.
This dude screamed all lives matter before attacking black protestors with a bow and arrow, after watching the video, please explain to me how is All Lives Matter not a whitw supremacist dog whistle and how are you not an enabler for defending it?
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Man aims bow and arrow at protesters before crowd tackles him
Brandon McCormick screams 'All Lives Matter' before he starts swinging the hunting weapon.
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That reminded me of one of my favourite Twitch clips of all time from the folks at LoadingReadyRun
I should say that from what I remember, the point they were at wasn't far it at all, hence why them saying it wasn't about race (or anything) yet was valid. But then Cage comes in a swinging.
These tweets absolutely shit, but there's quite a lot wrong with Quantic Dreams as an employer too and that's why I don't expect anything better from them.
The thing about "all lives matter" is it transcends it's current cultural context. Right now, it has a history in the US because of it's use in opposition to Black Lives Matter.
Take it outside that context, it's still a bullshit attempt to distract from the actual problem. What is it supposed to achieve?
"Oh, all lives matter? We have forgotten the general oppression that all races equally suffer from. You're right, we've gotten over-excited and let this whole thing run away from us"
It exists only to divert conversation. You can't have discussion on female oppression without a man asking about men's rights. You can't have a discussion about lack oppression without a white person pondering if you can be racist to white people. You can't have a discussion about climate change without someone wondering whether it exists or if it is driven by human actions.
Even if I believed that QD didn't know the context and ramifications of that phrase, then it would still reflect badly on them. It shows they fundamentally don't understand why large parts of the US are out protesting right now but are more than willing to add their take and promote their game.
Take it outside that context, it's still a bullshit attempt to distract from the actual problem. What is it supposed to achieve?
"Oh, all lives matter? We have forgotten the general oppression that all races equally suffer from. You're right, we've gotten over-excited and let this whole thing run away from us"
It exists only to divert conversation. You can't have discussion on female oppression without a man asking about men's rights. You can't have a discussion about lack oppression without a white person pondering if you can be racist to white people. You can't have a discussion about climate change without someone wondering whether it exists or if it is driven by human actions.
Even if I believed that QD didn't know the context and ramifications of that phrase, then it would still reflect badly on them. It shows they fundamentally don't understand why large parts of the US are out protesting right now but are more than willing to add their take and promote their game.
This dude screamed all lives matter before attacking black protestors with a bow and arrow, after watching the video, please explain to me how is All Lives Matter not a whitw supremacist dog whistle and how are you not an enabler for defending it?
Man aims bow and arrow at protesters before crowd tackles him
Brandon McCormick screams 'All Lives Matter' before he starts swinging the hunting weapon.
All lives matter, except the lives I'm trying to take 🤨🤔
"All lives matter" is basically like adding the "but some are more equal than others" line to "All animals are equal" in Animal Farm.
Also, Detroit was such a bad game when it comes to meaningfully exploring issues of race, modern slavery and forms of political change, that I can't for the life of me imagine why in a time where people are asked to educate themselves and be more pro-active as allies he would tell people to play this massive turd instead. As people have said, he is either so high on his own farts that he really does believe this shitshow game to contribute anything meaningful to the conversation (oh boy), or he's a soulless corporate shill that probably already suggested putting the game on sale in support for Black Lives Matter (without actually diverting any of the funds of course). Both plausible explanations!
Also, Detroit was such a bad game when it comes to meaningfully exploring issues of race, modern slavery and forms of political change, that I can't for the life of me imagine why in a time where people are asked to educate themselves and be more pro-active as allies he would tell people to play this massive turd instead. As people have said, he is either so high on his own farts that he really does believe this shitshow game to contribute anything meaningful to the conversation (oh boy), or he's a soulless corporate shill that probably already suggested putting the game on sale in support for Black Lives Matter (without actually diverting any of the funds of course). Both plausible explanations!
France LOVES assuming they have the moral high ground, while exhibiting the exact same kind of behaviour, if not worse.
And I say that as a french person.
It's like a huge part of the country has blinders on when it comes to this.
Gentle reminder that many colonies are STILL paying colonial taxes to France. Yet nobody ever talks about this.
And I say that as a french person.
It's like a huge part of the country has blinders on when it comes to this.
Gentle reminder that many colonies are STILL paying colonial taxes to France. Yet nobody ever talks about this.
Can't expect your local white French man to understand a movement he'd probably classify as communautarisme on any other day.
That original Tweet is some of the most brainless, opportunist, and ignorantly racist messaging imaginable. Hocking an already tacky game, but going back on earlier spinelessness about its subject matter, while insisting on using the white supremacist "all lives matter!" tagline as retort to the actual BLM protests is min-boggling.
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Racism, in any shape or form, is shameful, stupid and must be fought against, everywhere and always. Hollowed lives matter. We are all equal regardless of skin colour, armour level, sex, humanity, soul level or else. DARK SOULS is PRECISELY about that.
Racism, in any shape or form, is shameful, stupid and must be fought against, everywhere and always. No lives matter. We are all equally worthless regardless of skin colour, religious belief, sex, sexual orientation, or else. GTAV is PRECISELY about that.
Racism, in any shape or form, is shameful, stupid and must be fought against, everywhere and always. Demon lives matter. We are all regardless of demon type, planet, religious belief, or else. DOOM is PRECISELY about that.
Racism, in any shape or form, is shameful, stupid and must be fought against, everywhere and always. Boy lives matter. We are all regardless of mythology, realm, age, species, or else. GOD OF WAR is PRECISELY about that.
Jesus Christ what a tone-deaf tweet. Don't expect more from Quantic Dream though.
Racism, in any shape or form, is shameful, stupid and must be fought against, everywhere and always. No lives matter. We are all equally worthless regardless of skin colour, religious belief, sex, sexual orientation, or else. GTAV is PRECISELY about that.
Racism, in any shape or form, is shameful, stupid and must be fought against, everywhere and always. Demon lives matter. We are all regardless of demon type, planet, religious belief, or else. DOOM is PRECISELY about that.
Racism, in any shape or form, is shameful, stupid and must be fought against, everywhere and always. Boy lives matter. We are all regardless of mythology, realm, age, species, or else. GOD OF WAR is PRECISELY about that.
Jesus Christ what a tone-deaf tweet. Don't expect more from Quantic Dream though.
So... white people in general, then? It seemed weird for you to single out and snipe at Europeans considering what's going on in the US.
Genuine answer: it read like white Europeans are worse than white people from other continents, which again seems weird in the context of US police routinely murdering black people.
(I mean, did it really need to be spelled out to you?)
Lol"I don't advertise my game, but it's still one of a kind about these themes, so buy it"
I'm not here to promote my game, but my game did this."I don't advertise my game, but it's still one of a kind about these themes, so buy it"
Using the circumstance to promote their game was obviously a mistake although if you try not to be cynical about them maybe the reference is out of the desire (after so many shadows have been casted on them) to prove that they cared about those issues way before what happened recently in the US.
But yeah even in the case they shouldn't have mentioned their products in the tweet.
But yeah even in the case they shouldn't have mentioned their products in the tweet.
Europeans are particular about this, and more particularly about americans since there is a superiority bias, like "hopefully we are not like these rednecks" when, even if not as bad on some point we are particularly bad too
Does it matter? Especially when my post is the illustrate the fact that despite Europeans constantly acting all high and mighty about their progressiveness in terms of thought compared to the US, they're not much better, if at all. The racism just manifests differently.
I read the first one pre edit and yeah it's pretty gross to throw all lives matter in anything. I read the second and thought hey that's better, then I realized the at Detroit game was for the game and not the studio, tacky AF. It's one thing to make a statement that your studio stands behind this (theirs doesn't) but to promote a game? Ridiculous.
This studio and their games have always been fucked up in their depictions of shit. Rape and racism is kinda their forte.
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If you get angry for that tweet, you need to calm down.
I kinda liked Detroit Become Human, but this is fucking garbage.
Shut up.
Shut up.
Again (and I'm frankly baffled that I keep having to explain this), the point is that it's particularly tasteless and hypocritical to single out Europeans in general for the actions of a specific, well-known out of touch studio, especially considering the situation in the US that got us here in the first place. If you guys want to play coy about it so you can feel superior and preserve some of your American pride, go ahead; I'm done here.
I'm not American, and it's exactly why I called out Europeans. Because as a black man living in Europe, almost all of my encounters with racism has been at the hands of white Europeans. Nice try though.
"I don't advertise my game, but it's still one of a kind about these themes, so buy it"
Color me surprised they are doubling down on this.
Anecdotally, I'm seeing a lot more of this "Schrodinger's politic messaging" from companies: "it's political when it's convenient for us to be, totes apolitical when it's not".
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even in the original tweet he is speaking against racism. just because he wrote the phrase "all live smatter" you cant pretend the rest of the things were not written. And the game really is about that, he is not "promoting" it, he is just pointing that out.