Yep. It gives Ukraine time to figure out how they will deal with the incoming forces. So it's a good tactic that they aren't firing back currently. Because if they did, it'd be too late to make plans
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Putin orders troops to invade eastern Ukraine
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The only diplomatic solution that would9e satisfied Russia would've been if Ukraine rolled over and implemented Minsk 2 in Russian interpretation, amending the constitution to become a Bosnia-like confederation, with the puppet states having veto say over every policy decision.
Once they realized Ukraine wasn't going to bend, they had to either deescalate or take the next steps.
For a country trying to maintain it's sovereignty, that's no solution at all.
fucking republicans going all-in for Putin already. I don't think my mental health can really handle *gestures around wildly*
Obviously, that's why Zelensky rejected it, despite all the pressure to make "some" concessions to calm the situation down.
they obviously still have to go with them; would set a bad precedent not to.
but its way too late for diplomatic talks; Putin is committed now.
I hear you. I've wanted to visit Russia for a quite a while now. I met some really cool Russians during my time living in Shanghai.
None of them were fans of Putin.
They see what he's doing and they like it. If Trump gets back in, this worries me as a Canadian.
Nice, ask them if they feel the same about the bit of teaching democracy and South America lol I bet that if the question was about getting into, say, Venezuela, they'd have a different opinion
What the fuck does "Covidian" even mean? People who acknowledge Covid exists and want to minimize deaths?
If anyone's "Covidian" it's the chucklefucks stanning for a virus by demonizing the vaccine and every other preventative measure.
I read this as pro-isolationist rather than pro-Putin. End result might be kinda the same, but I think there is a distinction.
Please seize the Lake Como villa of Vladimir Solovyov, one of the main late-night talk show hosts on Russian State TV who's been demonizing Ukraine nonstop since mid-2013
Shout outs to the folks online who spend more time posting pictures of Azov than talking about Nazis in their own countries.
Fuck every one of them.
And accidentally jumps ahead to already talking about how the Crimea will become part of the Russian federation
F that guy. I don't think I've seen a more populist person.
That seems like a pretty big deal.
This incursion into Ukranian territory won't go on much longer.
I will believe you once the Russian 1st Tank Army is back in their quarters by Moscow.
All of them have governments made up of parties that got shady funding from Russia, they are like rotten apples in the EU and something should be done about these fundings all over europe
They like Putin and Russia because white supremacy and Christian, fuck anyone that gets in the way as Putin does. That's the gist of it. They want Trump and US to be that.
This is not stopping the invasion but it may hurt the occupation, if not make it impossible if backed with military support for a resistance.
"Yes or no?"
"You can take your seat now"
This is what fear looks like
Isn't Biden addressing the public at 1pm. Hopefully we learn more.
I'm worried regardless, but particularly if any Republican becomes President. Trump or someone else...not sure if it would make much difference.
It's been like this for weeks. "Nothing will happen, Putin isn't that insane, nothing to see here, please disperse!"
Yet here we are.
*This will take years to happen. (Approximately 4-6 years from now).
You can't forget that Russia is invading Ukraine to resettle it. This is no Afghanistan, a country on the other side of the world. Ukraine is right next to Russia, and the entire purpose of the invasion is to (badly) build a new nation. In this case, Russia has all the time in the world and willingness to stay there forever.
The Economic Sanctions WILL cripple Russia. But it has to be constant and aimed at both Low-Class Russians and the Russian Oligarchs for it to absolutely destroy the country financially, and hopefully lead to one deposed Putin.
This is all according to the American Intelligence Community. Just hoping for Russian overreach and another Afghanistan is not enough for the invasion to fail. Russia could spend a century occupying Ukraine because that's what they want.
Or at the very least, that's what Putin wants. The Russians are not so sure, and that's the biggest failing in Putin's plan. That's the Free World's biggest chance here: make the Russian's biggest fears, about Putin's temper tantrum, a reality. Make them regret it.
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Putin knew the sanctions would be extreme; I doubt he is surprised at all.
He's committed to the invasion; there is no turning back for him now.
Chances are boris announced these weak sanctions so his pals and tory donors can pull the money before they revise to harder sanctions
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