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Putin orders troops to invade eastern Ukraine
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He isn't going to roll tanks into NATO or Finland, but I can see him trying to annex Belorus (mostly there), parts or all of Ukraine and then work on Kazakhstan, Armenia, Azerbaijan, etc... Hopefully though he is stopped now with Ukraine (somehow sanctions work..).
Or 2008 or 2014. I mean look at all his acts over the past two decades.
I mean I doubt anyone in the west has biological weapons (not chemical but specifically biological) not for any moral reasons but because while powerful they're ludicrously stupid and dangerous weapons that are pretty much guaranteed to bite the user in the ass because disease doesn't have borders and the nature of a biological weapon, be it virus or bacterial in nature, makes them impossible to control perfectly because they mutate (and can induce mutations in other bacterias and viruses via horizontal gene transfer). It's impossible to oversee a weaponized disease to ensure your countermeasures remain relevant and so it's inevitably cross back into your own territory and kill your own people (and quite possibly you)
Not sure he meant it that way.
No the BS claim that the US stole Afghanistan's money after the government collapsed.
I don't want to derail, so take it here if you want to continue.
Twitter truly is a magical place. It truly has to represent like 3% of the population or something.
Coal/wood fireplaces and oil. My house actually still had coal ovens up until 1992 IIRC, now it's oil.
if he succeeds with Ukraine, you will very likely see a fast push into Moldova and Georgia. Both countries have their own "separatists" regions that can quickly be used to overwhelm the rest.
Not saying he will invade any NATO country. Rather was pointing to the fact that his deranged speech today showed far more affection to the russian empire while being pretty negative about USSR, especially the Lenin era.
i mean there isn't any. Aside from certain terrorist organizations with very specific ideologies bio weapons are functionally useless as an effective weapon because they're impossible to control and thus inevitably an effective bio weapon kills you just as surely as your target
Edit: I apologize to the mods, saw B-dubs last post after I just posted this
i agree, not sure why the administration is trying to playing cute with 'it's not technically an invasion yet because they already invaded'. Biden needs to be firm with his messaging. The West will be looking at the US for its leadership.
Yeah, that's a good point and somewhat unexpected. Didn't he lament that dissolution of Soviet Union was greatest tragedy of 20th century or something to that order?
Parts of Georgia maybe, but does he really want to battle insurgents in the mountains in Georgia? That said, who the hell knows, and he does have an excuse to go there. And for Kazakhstan, Russian troops are already there to support the local dictator.
What does one define as "success"?
Russia is a poor country. Prolonged occupations of all of those countries would be a logistical nightmare.
Plus, the promise to help arm and fund insurgencies from the US would make that a really bad idea. Ukraine is a huge country it might be hard enough to capture and keep under Russian control for any prolonged period.
Annexed? Lukashenko will simply sell out the country and give it to Putin in exchange for personal security and wealth.
I suspect at some point Lukashenko will cause even more civil unrest (upcoming vote on constitutional amendment for example), requesting Russian peacekeeping forces.
Well after thinking about it since the last thread, I think this is a on-going test on the capability of capitalism to maintain world peace. If Putin keeps pushing his maniacal agenda, we are going to reach a point where it doesn't matter if we in Germany or our industry can deal without Russian gas or not, we are just gonna have to do it, no matter the economical consequences.
In a way it reminds me of my history lessons, and how our economies worked during the great wars and even the cold war. Of course there was economical interests behind opposing Hitler, but (and I might be naive to think that) I'd think the ideological point was stronger than all of it.
I hope that we reach a conclusion that means the Ukrainians get to live to see peace again.
In a way it reminds me of my history lessons, and how our economies worked during the great wars and even the cold war. Of course there was economical interests behind opposing Hitler, but (and I might be naive to think that) I'd think the ideological point was stronger than all of it.
I hope that we reach a conclusion that means the Ukrainians get to live to see peace again.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure California and Texas have larger economies than Russia. Maybe New York state as well.
Russia doesn't have alot of money to burn
Russian forces are already there. I'm thinking of all those in Belarus who have lost their freedoms abs sovereignty
I assumed this had been done ages ago!
Has he just been hanging out in Kyiv this whole time?
If they really are gonna go after high ranking officials with a capture or kill order i doubt he'll be safe anywhere.
FSB is gonna come for him first either way
Right. Italy and Russia have the same GDP.
And it's not as if these countries have a lot of inherent economic value... Unless there is some major export that Ukraine is responsible for that I'm unaware of.
I mean they'd be there operating in a different capacity. They've already shown the strategy for Ukraine will be to hunt down and execute/arrest political opponents.
Yes, Russia's GDP is about half way between New York and Florida.
Zelenskiy needs to GTFO to Warsaw already.
Ukraine will not be able to resist the initial assault - this campaign will only start costing a lot for Russia after Kiev has fallen when the guerrilla fighting starts. He can act as an exiled leader of the resistance from there, assuming Poland doesn't hand him over to the Russians.
Ukraine will not be able to resist the initial assault - this campaign will only start costing a lot for Russia after Kiev has fallen when the guerrilla fighting starts. He can act as an exiled leader of the resistance from there, assuming Poland doesn't hand him over to the Russians.
The hell. That's really soft. I wonder if the west is just not in agreement with what everyone thinks is an actual invasion. Disappointed.
I really don't know what's going on with Biden's foreign policy stances. It's like he's trying to avoid any kind of action at all unless forced into it. I remember Biden saying during the election that he was going to be much tougher on Russia, but so far I'm not seeing it.
What I do know is that how the west handles Ukraine is going to have a domino effect 5-10 years down the road. If they kick the football because they don't want to take on the risk, it's going to be great for Putin and much worse for everyone else.
You just know that Xi is watching Western response and calculating chances of invading Taiwan without damaging chip factories...
I think he needs to stay in the country for as long as possible as support for the troops fighting. But moving out of Kiev might be a good idea.
Yasynuvata is a town on a railway junction and highway on the outskirt of Donetsk held by Ukrainian Armed Forces.
Seems that they are staging forces for a breakout to the North-West.
I don't understand Putin. I really don't get how restoring USSR benefits russia if no rich country in Europe or USA will trade with them? Are most Russians excited about invading Ukraine?
You're not wrong.
Biden admin needs to step up their game. Today.
I get that he is trying to portray that we are leaving a diplomatic off ramp for Russia. But eventually you need to just rip the band aid off and get on with it
Ukraine is in a pretty shitty place strategically here. This is clearly a break of treaties and basically a declaration of war. Logic would dictate that Ukraine is forced to attack now, but Russia will undoubtedly use any attack as an excuse to invade the whole country.
Putin has been "handling" US Presidents for several terms now.
Biden is just the latest one.
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