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I knew the revolution was coming, but I didn't expect it this fast.
Gyro aiming really is the best input innovation of the last decade. I was disappointed when Microsoft announced the Series controller would be gyro-less.
Hopefully this sudden push gets the ball rolling and they add it to Xinput and future iterations of the controller.
Gyro aiming really is the best input innovation of the last decade. I was disappointed when Microsoft announced the Series controller would be gyro-less.
Hopefully this sudden push gets the ball rolling and they add it to Xinput and future iterations of the controller.
I hope they add it to a revision of the standard series controller. I would love to get a custom controller from the xbox design lab, but there's no way I can justify buying a new one just to get a different color. C'mon microsoft, follow the money.
Posts like this make it very clear who has used gyro aiming and who has not. You're not shaking the controller around when using gyro aiming. You make slight adjustments with the controller while aiming with the sticks for greater accuracy and speed
I agree with you, it should be added. I don't get the complaints about anyone want it to be included going forward.
I personally do decent against Gyro players on sticks so I don't see a difference, and I rarely change the controller settings.
As an aside, it makes me laugh how vehemently against gyro aim some people are. This irrational hatred towards an alternate control scheme that can be disabled is absolutely hilarious to me. Just turn it off? What is gained or lost by offering options?
Did the Wii really instil this level of no confidence and pure anger towards gyro aiming? Why is the animosity so high towards it?
Did the Wii really instil this level of no confidence and pure anger towards gyro aiming? Why is the animosity so high towards it?
This is some spectacularly obstinate "head in sand" over here.
I'd say it's that and the fact that almost no games on PS/Xbox support or push for it. If a lot more of them did, I think a lot of folk would change their tune
I'm reminded of when Doom added support for Gyro and someone said "who asked for this?" and they simply said, "Literally everyone"
Are you actually unable to tell the difference between an analogy and a direct comparison of two things? Or are you just being an ass lol
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It would be great to finally have gyro on my main platform. The lack of it is my only issue with the Series controller.
Gyro's just fun honestly, lol. It's as close as we can get with point-and-shoot 'lightgun' controls without moving away from the traditional controller setup.
It doesn't require an IR sensor, external motion trackers, or one controller in each hand like the Wiimote or modern VR controllers. It's fun having my aiming actions realized in realtime while still being able to use sticks, buttons, etc. It also seamlessly works in handheld devices like the 3DS, Switch, and Steam Deck.
If Xbox controllers had gyro along with including gyro inputs for the XInput API, it'd be an amazing PC controller that opens up more options without needing manual configuration with Steam Input.
It doesn't require an IR sensor, external motion trackers, or one controller in each hand like the Wiimote or modern VR controllers. It's fun having my aiming actions realized in realtime while still being able to use sticks, buttons, etc. It also seamlessly works in handheld devices like the 3DS, Switch, and Steam Deck.
If Xbox controllers had gyro along with including gyro inputs for the XInput API, it'd be an amazing PC controller that opens up more options without needing manual configuration with Steam Input.
Same. I feel like gyro controls are fucking terrible lol. But, there's nothing wrong with options for folks who do want it and I'm sure if they add it we'll be able to disable it.
It only takes a brief look at some of those folks post history to see who's bizarrely against gyro, and this is coming from a company that created the outstanding Adaptive Controller.
Perhaps they should adapt their ways, and acknowledge that the more options available (that you can choose to turn off), the better … 🤔
Now turn off all aim assists while using the right stick and report back to us.
It is pretty funny but also quite annoying, instead of supporting other peoples taste, likes and even form of accessibility option they go grumpy grandpa with gyro. what I like is how the anti-gyro crowd has now started to change the rhetoric of why they are against it.
? Are games turning off stick user aim-assist when up against a gyro player?
It is pretty funny but also quite annoying, instead of supporting other peoples taste, likes and even form of accessibility option they go grumpy grandpa with gyro. what I like is how the anti-gyro crowd has now started to change the rhetoric of why they are against it.
Second button for sure. Headshots galore for me.
So weird that the Xbox controllers by two generations seems to ignore the addition of gyro. As a left handed guy it really helps me to aim better with controllers that have this feature (switch & steam controller).
The Xbox series controller is a very nice if subtle upgrade from the Xbox one but it's biggest missed opportunity was for sure gyro capability.
Hopefully this call-out reaches Microsoft ears!
The Xbox series controller is a very nice if subtle upgrade from the Xbox one but it's biggest missed opportunity was for sure gyro capability.
Hopefully this call-out reaches Microsoft ears!
I mean, when one of the 2 major console platforms don't have hardware built-in for it, it's not a surprise that there is a lack of support. Having parity for these features is intended to incentivize its inclusion/usage, for people who want the option. And yeah, PS doesn't do it for all of their 1st party games either, which I hope they do moving forward in games it makes sense for regardless of me personally not interested/using gyro.
Why do you want no batteries? Microsoft are wizards but I don't think they can make the worlds first perpetual motion controller. Something has to power it.
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I thought you were referring to a traditional shooter, like Counterstrike. Motion controls are better for aiming regardless vs. the stick with aim assists disabled, but that matters far less in a game like Splatoon where the arenas are small, the targets are huge, and big sized projectiles is the ammo (all while in third person).
Ah sorry, meant I prefer a built-in battery rather than using AAA batteries. Though the first perpetual motion controller? That's something I want to see haha
I, too, would like no batteries in the next iteration. That way, I can legitimately blame the controller when I die in Halo, as opposed to lack of skill.
We need to go back. It's completely BS that we are forced to use "dual analog" when shoulders and DPad work just fine. I didn't buy into Playstation gaming to push sticks around FFS. I would've bought the casual N64 if I was into that.
You mean AA, not AAA. But good news, you already have that option: https://www.xbox.com/en-US/accessories/batteries-chargers/play-and-charge-kit you've always had this option. You have had it since the 360 controllers. You never had to use AAs.
Unless what you're asking for is they remove user serviceable parts, which would be stupid and I really hope that's not what you're asking for.
I don't think it's gonna matter to me regardless. I have no issues playing Halo or Gears against PC players so gyro should be no different.
Have you tried the rechargeable battery packs?
I use the Venom ones (I think they're venom) and they're pretty good. Just clip them in the battery port. They last longer than inserting rechargeable batteries and seem to last about the same time as the dual shock charge. Obviously not as good as the Switch controller but they're pretty solid.
They do only come in matte black and white, so they clash with a lot of the controller designs unfortunately
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On this, I actually agree with the Xbox folks. In my ideal scenario, the controller would come with a rechargeable battery that can be charged via USB-C as well as be swapped out for a replacement rechargeable battery or regular AA batteries should be included one eventually run dry. This is actually what 8BitDo does with their controllers.
*cheffkiss*We need to go back. It's completely BS that we are forced to use "dual analog" when shoulders and DPad work just fine. I didn't buy into Playstation gaming to push sticks around FFS. I would've bought the casual N64 if I was into that.
Jesus Christ… I REALLY dislike gyro aiming and even I know that it is exactly how you describe it.
Some people seem to only tried Wii Sport back it 2006 or 2007 and think that that is still how everything motion works.
It's not a difficult thing to not like something without saying lies about it.
Grab the official Xbox ones. They charge through the controller itself so you don't have to replace the door.
They should just copy the 8bitdo Pro 2 controller. It has gyro and includes a rechargable battery pack that works exactly like the DS4/5/Switch Pro controllers. BUT you can take it out and put regular AA batteries if you wish. It's the solution that would fix the problem completely. It just costs $50 to boot, CHEAPER than an Xbox Series controller, so that proves right there those added features add really nothing to the price.
Seems a little late as the Series consoles didn´t ship with a gyro controller. I mean, like 7 games on the Playstation even use gyro and every player on there has a gyro controller. Even if you make a new Elite controller with gyro I doubt anyone is in a hurry to add Xbox gyro support when you would have to have an Elite controller that only a handful of people upgrade into.
Better luck next gen.
Better luck next gen.
I'm only really good with "slow" gyro: I.E. precision aiming of weapons.
In a fast-paced game I'm completely useless with it.
In a fast-paced game I'm completely useless with it.
Batteries are what makes the Xbox controller. You get like 32+ hours on a single set, and can just swap out the rechargeables and keep playing.
With the other controllers you either need to play wired while they charge, or own 2 controllers.
We're back at square one... turn off aim assists for a traditional shooter vs. those mouse aimers on PC and report back. Here's a quote from one of the best Xbox Titanfall players in the world backing this up as he describes how difficult it is to get frags against quality opponents without aim assists enabled on a controller:
I mean, the basic laws of physics show that stick aiming (without assists) can never be as good as mouse or gyro aiming, all else being equal. It really isn't much of a debate to suggest otherwise.
I am failing to see why you keep saying turn off aim-assist and see....we get it, but what game (sans Splatoon which doesn't have it in general) is turning that off if you are up against kb+m or gyro if you are using neither of those?
Never used that thing. My aim on console is pretty good, thanks to my almost 1k hours of BO3 and +500 hours of Destiny lol.
But I think its a good option to be available everywhere.
But I think its a good option to be available everywhere.
Gyro should be a standard controller feature and a toggleable option for any game that asks you to aim at things. I have yet to see a convincing argument otherwise.