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PSN generated more revenue than Nintendo's total revenue and Microsoft's whole gaming division revenue for 2018
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Eh...you can do that on a ps3. Its been possible for years. Unfortunately ps1 games are so low resolution they look awful on a giant hdtv.
Its better to play those on Vita if you can.
Nah, I mean I want to play them on the PS5. On a big screen. So I hope we will get some PSOne BC some day. Chances aren't high tho.
Absolutely.
That way it ensures that the constant stream of revenue generated thus far does not get fragmented and moves over into the PS5's ecosystem along with the "new PSN" Sony is cooking up. Numbers from Software and Network services will look stable for investors and Sony keeps growing the monthly active user base of PSN.
Very interesting timeline for Playstation.
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So were digital sales for Sony higher than physical? Because that's what it seems like if you compare the digital store number to the total revenue. That would be huge.
It would make it very hard for the, by the time, 110-120 mil Ps4 owners, to leave their library behind and switch platform for next gen.
I wouldn't be surprised if market shares from this generation are pretty much set in stone, much more so than in previous generations.
If you're going to engage in speculation and conjecture then I could just as easily assume those people not taking advantage of FREE software (which is included in a premium service they already pay for) are anomalistic.
Interestingly enough your example suggests as much because if people are posting that the Plus games 'suck', that is clearly a divergent and outlier opinion given the relative quality of the software that has been provided thus far.
Lol I know right. Sony at one point even had ps now built in Samsung TVs. If anybody has an idea where streaming games are at its probably Sony.
How so? Every single PS4 game is physically available without shortages or anything. And they keep releasing amazing collector's editions for their 1st party games.
They just give you both choices. If people are choosing digital, they aren't the ones to blame.
Playing them on a ps5 on a big screen is likely going to be exactly like playing them on a ps3 on a big screen.
IIRC the Ps1 rendered stuff at 320×240 resolution in 4:3. It looks straight up horrible blown up to 1080p on a 60inch.
My word. Well done, Sony.
I only own a few PSPs and Vita and not a home console, but I love that they hold really good sales. You can get great games at really good prices a few times throughout the year.
I only own a few PSPs and Vita and not a home console, but I love that they hold really good sales. You can get great games at really good prices a few times throughout the year.
Sure. But that means I have to put my PS3 back under my TV. And yeah.... nah. Let us play them on the PS5 ;)
Absolutely. This was a very important gen and Sony absolutely nailed it.
Yep. Just look at it. The rise of Sony's 1st party output, PSN, PSVR, PS Now etc. Amazing.
Dammit....
It's still amazing that PSNow still gets downplayed, dismissed.
Aahh, don't forget F2P doesn't need Plus. And PSNow doesn't. Will be interesting to see how MS handles online MP with streaming....
Yup, this.
Yup, it's always about the games.
Who would have thunk, right?
Exclusives, 3rd parties, it all depends on some things as to which is important.
PS now hasn't even been available for the whole of europe, only recently they launched in a few more countries in europe. If sony play their cards right and start adding more downlodable ps4 and ps5 games in the future, it will be another juggernaut for them.
Same here,and I'm still physical on all the big games........those indies,dlc's and PS+ subs all add up,lol.
There's a difference between making promises and actually already having a fully functioning streaming subscription service available to be used today that actually commands the lion's share of the streaming market! Who'dathunk?
Sony has the best charts in the business
Reminds me of
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Not surprising it's bigger than MS entire gaming division considering Sony is outselling MS by a significant margin this generation
If they can manage to have a smooth transition for PS5 and beyond that will be compatible with the current PSN users accounts, and games they can be the leader for an extremely long time.
and yet...the store doesn't even work. Imagine if PSN wasn't terrible..how much more money they could make.
Just getting the store to open on my PS4 Pro is hassle enough. But then the kicker of finally getting to checkout and getting an error. This happens nearly every time i make a purchase. I can't even count how many times i've had to buy something off the website because it wouldn't work thru the console.
Just getting the store to open on my PS4 Pro is hassle enough. But then the kicker of finally getting to checkout and getting an error. This happens nearly every time i make a purchase. I can't even count how many times i've had to buy something off the website because it wouldn't work thru the console.
Damn, good for Sony. It helps that there are sooooo many good sales now to convince enough people that digital is at least worth that.
damn impressive numbers. I know a few in my friend circle have gone all in on digital so yeah I could see how numbers like this can happen
Sony has the best charts in the business
The growth is insane.
I'm not trying to downplay or dismiss your frustration but I've had none of those problems on the PSN store and I buy a shit ton of digital software.
What region are you?
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The costs to Sony for the Plus games are fixed sums negotiated separately with each developer. It's not based on how many people then download the free game. The sum agreed will surely vary based on a number of factors such as: the devs projected sales over the next N months and the revenue hit going free might cost them, the marketing benefit to promote a sequel or another game from the same dev, or sell dlc, how desperate the dev is for money in hand now rather than later, how badly the dev wants the exposure, etc. Even as the PSN subscriber base grows, it doesn't mean the cost to acquire those games will grow linearly with it, since the cost to the dev of going free is 70% of the sales they will miss out on, and just because there are more PS4's and more PSN subs doesn't necessarily mean their sales forecast will be much higher, if at all, due to all the competition. When Sony had 20M subs they could say to the dev, "At your current sales rate you might lose 70% of 30K sales if you go free.", so we'll pay you X% of that money now, and when Sony had/has 40M subs the devs sales forecast might be the same.
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The costs to Sony for the Plus games are fixed sums negotiated separately with each developer. It's not based on how many people then download the free game. The sum agreed will surely vary based on a number of factors such as: the devs projected sales over the next N months and the revenue hit going free might cost them, the marketing benefit to promote a sequel or another game from the same dev, or sell dlc, how desperate the dev is for money in hand now rather than later, how badly the dev wants the exposure, etc. Even as the PSN subscriber base grows, it doesn't mean the cost to acquire those games will grow linearly with it, since the cost to the dev of going free is 70% of the sales they will miss out on, and just because there are more PS4's and more PSN subs doesn't necessarily mean their sales forecast will be much higher, if at all, due to all the competition. When Sony had 20M subs they could say to the dev, "At your current sales rate you might lose 70% of 30K sales if you go free.", so we'll pay you X% of that money now, and when Sony had/has 40M subs the devs sales forecast might be the same.
Sony didn't win this gen so much as it was handed to them by Microsoft and Nintendo(Wii U). They got very lucky, but that luck always had a shelf life and it's beginning to run out.
Looking at how Smash completely crushed GOW and Spiderman sales on a much smaller install base proves that insulated $60, single player console exclusives aren't exactly a winning stragedy all by themselves going forward.
Sony needs to find a way to innovate in the same way Microsoft has with services and Nintendo has with hardware because great games are a dime a dozen, literally so on Xbox now. I feel like Microsoft and Nintendo are seeing the bigger picture.
Looking at how Smash completely crushed GOW and Spiderman sales on a much smaller install base proves that insulated $60, single player console exclusives aren't exactly a winning stragedy all by themselves going forward.
Sony needs to find a way to innovate in the same way Microsoft has with services and Nintendo has with hardware because great games are a dime a dozen, literally so on Xbox now. I feel like Microsoft and Nintendo are seeing the bigger picture.
Remember when xbox live used to be the top dawg and people used to call PSN trash? How the tables have turned. MSFT got whopped these last couple of years man.
Thank you for this ! I thought it was something like that but I couldn't find anything related to confirm
Have you got a link about that ?
Can someone please think of the older folks? Please highlight sarcasm more apparently. I'm starting to fall for it every time.
In the US the Xbox still has higher digital sales ratio for a lot of third party titles. Of course that doesn't always translate into more sales, given the install base difference, but sometimes it does. Digital sales ratio for first party titles is also really high.
There are multiple reasons why this is the case, such as Xbox having a smaller yet more engaged base, Xbox Live being a part of Xbox for so long, the introduction of Play Anywhere and many other reasons. It's why software and services revenue is so high for Xbox.
When I talk about digital sales I am of course excluding game pass because that's a subscription service.
I don't think this is how it works. I'm pretty sure Sony has to pay a lump sum to the dev upfront based on some sort of calculations of projected download rates. I might be mistaken, but I thought that's what I had previously heard.
I only redeem games I know I might actually play. There's not enough time to play all the good new games, let alone all the free* PS+ and GWG titles, so I don;'t want to clutter my library with a bunch of shit.
I still haven't finished AC Syndicate on Xbox (which was a GWG title in April), and I haven't even started God of War 3 which was on PS+ in September.
those servers are third party servers. The publisher pays for them
This is nonsense.
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