PSA: Trump cannot delay elections

[Jedi2016]

That's not going to stop him from trying if the country is still a mess come September or October. If it's controlled by Congress, they'll happily change the law if he tells them to.

The term limits would be more of a challenge since they're directly part of the constitution, but I'm sure he'll be happy to try the ol' Palpatine "Emergency Powers" trick.

 

[Deleted member 43]

Trump can't delay elections, because he can't physically enforce it in every state. But he can spread enormous FUD about coronavirus or polling places being infected, encourage supporters to block polling places, calling in the military or national guard, etc. and engage in widespread voter suppression that potentially keeps him in office.

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Yeah, the military or national guard aren't about to occupy polling places.

They aren't automatons.

 

[Deleted member 2802]

He'll find a way...

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is there anyway he could be granted emergency powers?

 

[DickGrayson]

That's not going to stop him from trying if the country is still a mess come September or October. If it's controlled by Congress, they'll happily change the law if he tells them to.

The term limits would be more of a challenge since they're directly part of the constitution, but I'm sure he'll be happy to try the ol' Palpatine "Emergency Powers" trick.

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It would require both the house and the senate to change the law, the house is currently controlled by Democrats, so no they'll not "happily change the law if he tells them to".

 

[TheRuralJuror]

No mechanism? Gosh, that sounds like such a barrier! Imagine if he (gasp) broke the law! Oh, wait. . .

Seriously, what would stop him? Public demonstrations? An online petition? A strongly worded letter from Pelosi? The Senate? The Supreme Court, that USSC, the one that ruled to stop recounts to put a Republican candidate in the White House?

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Honestly, folks such as yourself need to actually explain how he legally does it. Much of what he's gotten away with is legal, this isn't. If you can explain how he pulls it off, please do so, otherwise quit spreading bunk information.

 

[DickGrayson]

is there anyway he could be granted emergency powers?

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Only if the Gungan representative in the Senate votes to grant him emergency powers.

 

[Ensorcell]

That's not going to stop him from trying if the country is still a mess come September or October. If it's controlled by Congress, they'll happily change the law if he tells them to.

The term limits would be more of a challenge since they're directly part of the constitution, but I'm sure he'll be happy to try the ol' Palpatine "Emergency Powers" trick.

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Oh? He is going to tell Nancy's Pelosi's House to change the law and they'll hop to?

 

[entremet]

That's not going to stop him from trying if the country is still a mess come September or October. If it's controlled by Congress, they'll happily change the law if he tells them to.

The term limits would be more of a challenge since they're directly part of the constitution, but I'm sure he'll be happy to try the ol' Palpatine "Emergency Powers" trick.

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With the House being controlled by the Dems and no supermajority in the Senate? Basically impossible.

 

[NHarmonic.]

He'll find a way...

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Pretty much. And the cult will agree.

 

[Th3BranMan]

It would actually be a civil war if he cancelled the election.

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I'm making a sweeping generalization here but if Trump were to assume power indefinitely, right wingers would be overjoyed, and win any "civil" war with their tremendous amounts of firearms. The left wouldn't stand a chance, unfortunately.

 

[Sign My Guestbook!]

is there anyway he could be granted emergency powers?

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They would still not allow him to do some of the things people suggest. He can not end elections. The federal government is fundamentally disconnected from such an action.

The Union is held together by the States. If some want to dissolve the Union to elect their own special leader, that is up them, as are the historically-familiar consequences that follow.

 

[Jedi2016]

Again, it won't stop him from trying. Ten bucks says he floats the idea in the next three months.

 

[DickGrayson]

Oh? He is going to tell Nancy's Pelosi's House to change the law and they'll hop to?

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Nancy "I love doing what Donald Trump tells me" Pelosi is what we've always called her.

 

[Cat Party]

People, this isn't Star Wars. The US is a constitutional republic that has fixed elections.

Ten bucks says he floats the idea in the next three months.

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lol, I actually agree with this.

 

[SkyOdin]

That's not going to stop him from trying if the country is still a mess come September or October. If it's controlled by Congress, they'll happily change the law if he tells them to.

The term limits would be more of a challenge since they're directly part of the constitution, but I'm sure he'll be happy to try the ol' Palpatine "Emergency Powers" trick.

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The House which has a Democratic majority will just do what Trump tells them?

Besides, it is up to the states, not the federal government to run elections. If Trump tells California to delay elections, California will just tell him to take a hike.

 

[Deleted member 43]

Again, it won't stop him from trying. Ten bucks says he floats the idea in the next three months.

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Sure, just like the million ther impossible things he floats that just get ignored by the people in the executive branch that would actually have to act on them.

 

[KoopaTheCasual]

Lol at people saying, "he can do whatever he wants!"

Get a grip. The MAJOR difference between every law he has broken until now, and delaying re-election is that he has been saved by congressional INACTION in the past (through DOJ, Senate, Cabinet stalling/red-tape). In order to delay the re-election, that would required massive unified State and Congressional ACTION. That is never happening.

It's one thing to get away with a crime because the system is too bloated and lethargic to act swiftly, it's quite literally the opposite to attempt to get away with sweeping consolidation of power, off the hopes that the same system will suddenly move with the grace and energy of a ballerina.

Get a grip.

Sure, just like the million of other impossible things he floats that just get ignored by the people in the executive branch that actually would have to act on them.

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Thank you.

 

[dragonchild]

he would have to have the backing of the military and republicans at every level of the state and federal governments.

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Well, then.

 

[Thequietone]

He controls both the Senate and the Courts.

Spoiler

/star wars joke

 

[Deleted member 2802]

The Union is held together by the states. If some want to dissolve it to elect their own special leader, that is up them, as are the historically-familiar consequences that follow.

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[Greg NYC3]

I'm making a sweeping generalization here but if Trump were to assume power indefinitely, right wingers would be overjoyed, and win any "civil" war with their tremendous amounts of firearms. The left wouldn't stand a chance, unfortunately.

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LOL, this would actually require them to enter major cities and even armed to the teeth these right wing nuts are terrified of PoC.

 

[SkyOdin]

is there anyway he could be granted emergency powers?

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No, there is no provision in the Constitution for emergency powers, and no historical precedent for canceling elections. The US had elections in the middle of the Civil War.

 

[Deleted member 48897]

Trump can't delay elections, because he can't physically enforce it in every state. But he can spread enormous FUD about coronavirus or polling places being infected, encourage supporters to block polling places, calling in the military or national guard, etc. and engage in widespread voter suppression that potentially keeps him in office.

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That's the thing, the GOP has done such a great job of normalizing voter suppression that these more transparently nefarious power grabs are pointless, especially given that Trump is permitted to run for a second term. Maybe they'll pull something in 4 years if things go their way now. Who knows.

 

[DickGrayson]

Well, then.

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Well then what?

You think it's at all reasonable to assume that the military and every republican at the state and federal levels would trust Trump with indefinite power?

He's a useful idiot to these people and he has not replaced enough of the top military brass with dyed in the wool cultists in order to even attempt this absurdity.

 

[Cipherr]

This is the dumbest conspiracy theory ever. It really is. It's embarrassing that people really try and float this shit.

There's being a negative person, and then there's just silly tinfoil hat territory. And "Trumps gonna cancel elections and have power forever!" is definitely in the tinfoil area.

All those years of making fun of conservative nutbags and their "King Obama won't ever give up the throne" nonsense; only to see this crap spring to life in 2020 SMH

 

[Aaron]

ffs it'll be the day after Biden's inauguration and some of y'all will still be going on about how Trump is secretly plotting to be president forever and it'll totally work because reasons.

 

[Deleted member 14459]

Literally can't.

Making this thread was pointless OP. Bedwetters are gonna bedwet, there not gonna actually listen.

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while not straight up cancelling, through issuing various executive orders with almost limitless power he could make an election impossible in practice if he wanted.

 

[Sunster]

Look, we just need to delay them for a little while just until we find out what's going on.

 

[Deleted member 3542]

it would be directly and blatantly disregarding the constitution.

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Have people forgotten that the "Muslim Ban" still happened?

Despite the fight and protests it still got OK'd by SCOTUS. It's all about loopholes and the admin trying repeatedly only with slightly different wording. He has support in the senate to claim such things as well.

Edit: Just to clarify, they aren't stupid enough to delay the election but at the same time I, personally, wouldn't be surprised if he started talking about it like it's a real possibility. Whatever Fox News says (and you know Tucker or Hannity will say it) is what he'll agree to.

 

[Deleted member 43]

I'm making a sweeping generalization here but if Trump were to assume power indefinitely, right wingers would be overjoyed, and win any "civil" war with their tremendous amounts of firearms. The left wouldn't stand a chance, unfortunately.

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There would not be a civil war. That's just fatalistic fan fiction.

 

[Darkwing-Buck]

I'm making a sweeping generalization here but if Trump were to assume power indefinitely, right wingers would be overjoyed, and win any "civil" war with their tremendous amounts of firearms. The left wouldn't stand a chance, unfortunately.

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This isn't a movie.

 

[Deleted member 43]

Have people forgotten that the "Muslim Ban" still happened?

Despite the fight and protests it still got OK'd by SCOTUS. It's all about loopholes and the admin trying repeatedly only with slightly different wording. He has support in the senate to claim such things as well.

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Because the ban is actually an execution of powers the Executive branch has.

They don't have any power over elections. The situations are not in any way equivalent.

 

[DickGrayson]

All those years of making fun of conservative nutbags and their "King Obama won't ever give up the throne" nonsense; only to see this crap spring to life in 2020 SMH

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[steveovig]

Isn't this an over reaction? Coronavirus won't be a major issue by November. C'mon guys

 

[Gentlemen]

I love how a thread intended to help stem the growing tide of disinformation sees a host of replies consisting mostly of miserable regurgitation of misinformation.

Some of y'all are a disgrace.

 

[Deleted member 14459]

Also if there is an ongoing pandemic: You gonna go caucus? It is not a conspiracy - it's just that it might end up that way - Congress would likely comply under such conditions

 

[Sordid Plebeian]

People really got to relax in this thread, there are many structures in place that will prevent Trump from engaging in such high levels of constitutional fuckery

 

[Sign My Guestbook!]

There would not be a civil war. That's just fatalistic fan fiction.

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Certainly our armed forces don't want it. Likely there'd be internal turmoil in the military as higher ups put pressure on the executive to rescind such attempts. If it didn't, tumblers would continue to fall from there, until only God knows what.

 

[RecRoulette]

I am quite sure that if a national emergency is declared he can.

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Today's "National Emergency" is the 6th one under him.

 

[faceless]

People really got to relax in this thread, there are many structures in place that will prevent Trump from engaging in such high levels of constitutional fuckery

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like #2

someone somewhere would snap no doubt about it

 

[TheMango55]

Have people forgotten that the "Muslim Ban" still happened?

Despite the fight and protests it still got OK'd by SCOTUS. It's all about loopholes and the admin trying repeatedly only with slightly different wording. He has support in the senate to claim such things as well.

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only applied to non-citizens

first amendment only applies to citizens.

This post is not an endorsement of that racist garbage, but it's very easy to see how it could be ruled constitutional.

 

[TheRuralJuror]

I love how a thread intended to help stem the growing tide of disinformation sees a host of replies consisting mostly of miserable regurgitation of misinformation.

Some of y'all are a disgrace.

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Its like talking to the goons on Facebook at times.

 

[Equippedwithtowel]

Trump can't delay elections, because he can't physically enforce it in every state. But he can spread enormous FUD about coronavirus or polling places being infected, encourage supporters to block polling places, calling in the military or national guard, etc. and engage in widespread voter suppression that potentially keeps him in office.

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the best take in the thread

have some imagination people

 

[bossmonkey]

Pretty sure Trump would have a civil war on his hands if he tried to end the elections like that because the next steps would be states seceding.

So this shit ain't happening.

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Nah the military would dump him on his ass outside of the White House if it came to that.

 

[Titik]

World War 2, like a literal world ending war, didn't delay the elections.

A virus that only kills less than 1% wont do it either.

 

[Deleted member 43]

Likely there'd be internal turmoil in the military as higher ups put pressure on the executive to rescind such attempts. If it didn't, tumblers would continue to fall from there, until only God knows what.

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There wouldn't be any turmoil. The military's leadership (who, by the way, largely HATE Trump's guts and consider him a complete idiot) know the law, are sworn to uphold the Constitution, and aren't about to overthrow the Republic for the benefit of that man child.

This is not a realistic concern. It's, like I said, fatalistic fear mongering.

 

[KoopaTheCasual]

All those years of making fun of conservative nutbags and their "King Obama won't ever give up the throne" nonsense; only to see this crap spring to life in 2020 SMH

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I'm mad this post is so accurate.

Some of these posts are so fcking embarrassing.

 

[Deleted member 24149]

There wouldn't be any turmoil. The military's leadership (who, by the way, largely HATE Trump's guts and consider him a complete idiot) know the law, are sworn to uphold the Constitution, and aren't about to overthrow the Republic for the benefit of that man child.

This is not a realistic concern. It's, like I said, fatalistic fear mongering.

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Really wish you'd stop talking out of your ass. The military isn't a monolith and if they don't have someone in charge they don't like they'll find someone else to do it. We've always seen it happen with eddie gallagher.

 

[Josh5890]

Just playing devil's advocate (not that I believe remotely for a minute that the election will be delayed/canceled) but wouldn't Nancy Pelosi need to be re-elected to Congress in order to assume the role of POTUS

 

[onadesertedisland]

The real question is, if he did so, who would stop him? The house might try, but the courts seem disinterested in checking the executive. The senate sure as fuck won't lift a finger.