PSA: The PC port of Journey is garbage!

[Schlomo]

Ohh I was talking about Atmos in Gears 5 not in Journey.

My advice to OP was just to put the game in stereo like 2 or 3 posts above yours.

My point was why PC gamers are more likely to spend the big bucks on a good monitor rather than a big surround sound system, cuz Headphone sound is usually actually better for gaming than Surround Sound from a bang for buck perspective....and IMO all round.

Granted I havent tried Atmos on a full fat Atmos Surround Sound System but I had a pretty expensive 7.2 kit before going to headphone land, and headphone land has impressed me more.

If youve got both a decent pair of Headphones and a surround sound system do the test yourself.
Download the atmos trial, load up a game with atmos support and try it out.
Youll be converted to believing in Atmos for Headphones....its game changing.

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I can certainly understand preferring headphones over a 5.1 setup, but "just put it in stereo" is not a good response to this issue IMO. That's like telling the obnoxious 21:9 people who complain about every port that it doesn't match their screen to "just put it in letterboxed".

 

[hlhbk]

So did you get a refund since the game is unplayable? Did you report the bug? Did you do anything that was actually constructive?

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It's been reported months ago. No fix.

 

[hlhbk]

The reponses on this thread are mind blowing to me. I seriously don't want to hear anyone complain about lack of graphic settings, optimizations, and such moving forward that is excusing this here. Just because you don't have a 5.1 setup doesn't mean this isn't a major issue.

 

[Alvis]

The reponses on this thread are mind blowing to me. I seriously don't want to hear anyone complain about lack of graphic settings, optimizations, and such moving forward that is excusing this here. Just because you don't have a 5.1 setup doesn't mean this isn't a major issue.

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Ok boomer

 

[Transistor]

The reponses on this thread are mind blowing to me. I seriously don't want to hear anyone complain about lack of graphic settings, optimizations, and such moving forward that is excusing this here. Just because you don't have a 5.1 setup doesn't mean this isn't a major issue.

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I don't think people are having issue with your complain, but how it's phrased. Two speakers swapped in an otherwise fine game makes it far from a "garbage port."

 

[hanmik]

The reponses on this thread are mind blowing to me. I seriously don't want to hear anyone complain about lack of graphic settings, optimizations, and such moving forward that is excusing this here. Just because you don't have a 5.1 setup doesn't mean this isn't a major issue.

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There is a difference between "Garbage" and "problem with the audio"... labeling a game garbage because of a sound issue is the thing people are responding to.

Nobody is dismissing your problems with the audio, they are commenting on your statement that the game is garbage.

 

[Pitou]

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[Dio]

also, you don't help to get your point across at all with stuff like this, that borders on ''devs are lazy, it's such a simple fix!"

Can't they take 10 minutes to properly test the game before releasing it or I dunno take 5 minutes to patch it?

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[Hero_of_the_Day]

Does this effect everyone with a 5.1 setup, or is it a random bug?

 

[Deleted member 16908]

does the game still stutter if you're using a Ryzen processor? back when digital foundry did a video on it they found that to be a problem

 

[spineduke]

The reponses on this thread are mind blowing to me. I seriously don't want to hear anyone complain about lack of graphic settings, optimizations, and such moving forward that is excusing this here. Just because you don't have a 5.1 setup doesn't mean this isn't a major issue.

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im afraid to hear what you have to say on *actual* garbage ports

like MGS2 for PC, or Dark Souls without dsfix.

You don't know what garbage really is.

 

[Ryan.]

It's been reported months ago. No fix.

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Still got two questions that went unanswered.

The reponses on this thread are mind blowing to me. I seriously don't want to hear anyone complain about lack of graphic settings, optimizations, and such moving forward that is excusing this here. Just because you don't have a 5.1 setup doesn't mean this isn't a major issue.

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Those take about 5 minutes to test and 2 minutes to fix in dev time so those get less of a pass.

 

[hlhbk]

also, you don't help to get your point across at all with stuff like this, that borders on ''devs are lazy, it's such a simple fix!"

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There needs to be a bare minimum of effort if you are going to release a game on PC. If the audio works on consoles in 5.1 we at the very least should be the same on PC.

 

[SmashN'Grab]

The reponses on this thread are mind blowing to me. I seriously don't want to hear anyone complain about lack of graphic settings, optimizations, and such moving forward that is excusing this here. Just because you don't have a 5.1 setup doesn't mean this isn't a major issue.

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It's definitely an issue, but people are far more attuned to graphics than audio pretty much across the board. If, say, all the reds were green and vice versa then everyone would be up in arms calling it a shit port, but for audio people are more forgiving for some reason.

 

[Dio]

There needs to be a bare minimum of effort if you are going to release a game on PC. If the audio works on consoles in 5.1 we at the very least should be the same on PC.

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doesn't justify your tone to even guess the time necessary for it. take the L man.

 

[Deleted member 34873]

I am outraged.

 

[horkrux]

they should get more flak for this

 

[ElectricBlanketFire]

There needs to be a bare minimum of effort if you are going to release a game on PC. If the audio works on consoles in 5.1 we at the very least should be the same on PC.

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You said the game runs great. So clearly they put in more than the bare minimum.

 

[Deleted member 13560]

A garbage port to me needs to have more than 1 technical problem or limiting factor. This issue you're having can literally be fixed in less than a minute by you. You're right that this shouldn't be an issue in the first place, but this is a little overdramatic.

 

[daninthemix]

I guess I would find that annoying if I had played on my AV setup, but I played on a 2-channel setup, so didn't notice.

Instead I just enjoyed playing the game at 4-8 times the resolution of the console versions.

 

[tr1b0re]

* for people with surround sound systems

 

[Deleted member 13560]

This game below is a garbage port. OPPW3 has no working graphical menu, it uses a combination of PS3 and Vita assets instead of PS4 assets, controller support is broke, it uses limited resolution, and has horrible frame times.

Luckily using cheat engine I was able to edit hex in order to force higher resolution and use community made tools to remove fog and increase LOD. But even with this, you can't do anything a out missing graphcal assets. Also Koei Tecmo hasn't released a single patch to this game since its inception.

All you have to do to fix your issue is edit a sound profile or switch a cable. The port isn't garbage.

 

[Dragon1893]

Wow. Such utter garbage! Hot, steaming, gutter trash garbage!
OK, I feel this is way more accurate, you weren't hard enough on it OP. The issues you mentioned make it sound like it's downright unplayable, so you really need to drive home the fact that it truly is GARBAGE!

 

[hlhbk]

The defending of this game by those here is astounding.

 

[tr1b0re]

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The defending of this game by those here is astounding.

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Preeeetty sure I'm not seeing anyone defending the game so much as talking about your overreaction

 

[hlhbk]

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Preeeetty sure I'm not seeing anyone defending the game so much as talking about your overreaction

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I am not overreacting.

 

[tr1b0re]

I am not overreacting.

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Guess I should have used the word hyperbole somewhere then

 

[catswaller]

The defending of this game by those here is astounding.

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dude, when you make a game for a console, there is _one_ audio controller or whatever the aprt is on the machine, and a limited number of surround sound setups, from a limited number of vendors. On pc there are literally infinite stupid configurations that whoever made your motherboard, sound card, operating system, speakers, or configurations could have made. It is not weird for bugs like this to creep in, and it's not weird for a studio that was probably contracted for like 6 months or something else ridiculous to port the game to not be able to go back and fix it because exactly one user is losing their mind.

It's an annoying bug, it's not the end of the world.

 

[astro]

The reponses on this thread are mind blowing to me. I seriously don't want to hear anyone complain about lack of graphic settings, optimizations, and such moving forward that is excusing this here. Just because you don't have a 5.1 setup doesn't mean this isn't a major issue.

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This is an oversight and one that should have been fixed.

Calling the port garbage because of this alone is hyperbolic and reactionary, and that is what people are responding to.

That is truly blowing your mind?

 

[Deleted member 13560]

The defending of this game by those here is astounding.

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Your overreaction and inability to comprehend what people are telling you is astounding.

 

[Yogi]

I read that the PC version is missing a nice graphical effect too, it put me off picking it up.

If you're looking for a match for the sand rendering quality of the PS3 or even the PS4 versions of the game, you're out of luck here. Once again, the look of the effect has changed - and like the PS4 version, perhaps it's not necessarily for the better. All told, I still think the original look of the game delivered the best presentation, but relative beauty is definitely in the eye of the beholder on this one.

The key takeaway, I think, is that Journey PC doesn't scale much beyond the original console versions in terms of fidelity - the game has been 'brought' to PC, but not necessarily improved for the more capable platform, beyond improved display support. It would be preferable to see a little more effort here, not just in visual effects (let's have motion blur restored!) but also in terms of quality of life options too - an inverted controller toggle would be very welcome, for example. There also appear to be genuine slowdown issues when the game dips beneath 60fps, though bafflingly, it does run at full speed if you add a 30fps cap using external options.

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[spineduke]

The defending of this game by those here is astounding.

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..... you really think people here are ardent defenders of Journey the game? Trust me, it has nothing to do with the game, and everything to do with your attitude.

 

[astro]

The defending of this game by those here is astounding.

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I am not overreacting.

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It's your approach that people are rightly reacting to.

Come on...

 

[Jibby]

Welp, I guess any ports that contain even just a single bug are now to be labeled garbage, regardless of performance.

Pack it in folks, everything is garbage.

 

[fontguy]

Like, it's an issue that shouldn't exist and you're right to be unhappy about it, but also chill, dude.

 

[Reinhardt Schneider]

I am not overreacting.

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I'm a surround sound junkie and yes, you are.

You have never played a garbage port if a sound bug makes you see Journey as one

 

[Alvis]

The defending of this game by those here is astounding.

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Maybe try phrasing the issue like a normal functional human being instead of practically asking for the devs to burn in a fire lmao

You could have made a more reasonable awareness thread, then used the energy you're using to scream and cry in this thread to swap a cable instead

 

[Deleted member 1003]

I am not overreacting.

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If you don't think you're overreacting then you are a lost cause for sure. By your logic of what constitutes "garbage" then every game is garbage because every game has some sort of bug.

 

[Pargon]

Okay, sure, the headline is hyperbolic; but what the hell are these responses?

• Just use headphones
• Surround sound is obnoxious
• It's not a problem because other games are worse

This forum is becoming garbage for any kind of discussion these days - especially if it's related to PC gaming.
And that is far from the only problem the port has. Originally, it was completely unplayable with 5.1 audio at all:


And it was stuttering badly on Ryzen systems for no reason.

also, you don't help to get your point across at all with stuff like this, that borders on ''devs are lazy, it's such a simple fix!"

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I mean, it should be completely trivial to flip the channels around in a patch, if that's the problem.

dude, when you make a game for a console, there is _one_ audio controller or whatever the aprt is on the machine, and a limited number of surround sound setups, from a limited number of vendors. On pc there are literally infinite stupid configurations […]

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That's not how this works. You program to an API; e.g. XAudio2, rather than creating a custom implementation for every specific device.

There is a difference between "Garbage" and "problem with the audio"... labeling a game garbage because of a sound issue is the thing people are responding to.
Nobody is dismissing your problems with the audio, they are commenting on your statement that the game is garbage.

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Everyone is.

 

[louiedog]

I've had games where the mix is not coming through the correct speakers and it really, really sucks.

But it in no way instantly turns them into garbage. It drives me nuts that some people can't speak about things in any way other than calling them GOAT or garbage. The words exist, use them and stop being so hyperbolic.

The real journey was the L's you took along the way.

 

[Ragnorok64]

Can't they take 10 minutes to properly test the game before releasing it or I dunno take 5 minutes to patch it?

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10 minute testing, 5 minute patch...

What manner of nonsense is this? Between this and someone yesterday saying it'd take an afternoon for developers to put an AI Zelda as a companion in BoTW 2 I'm baffled at the level of ignorance people on this gaming forum actually have about gaming.

 

[astro]

This forum is becoming garbage for any kind of discussion these days - especially if it's related to PC gaming.

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Blame the OP's hyperbolic framing. Had this issue been brought up in a reasonable way, the thread would be very different.

 

[Why_So_Serious]

Well one man's garbage is another man's treasure.

 

[Titanpaul]

Not really related to the topic, but I played Journey on the PS4 and during my entire playthrough I didn't see one other person. It made for a very boring and forgettable experience. Can't imagine there's an active audience on the PC.

 

[Transistor]

Not really related to the topic, but I played Journey on the PS4 and during my entire playthrough I didn't see one other person. It made for a very boring and forgettable experience. Can't imagine there's an active audience on the PC.

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Journey was a game that was best played at its peak popularity so you could pretty much guarantee a matchup. Solo is just a boring slog and removes the critical emotional element from it.

 

[Titanpaul]

Journey was a game that was best played at its peak popularity so you could pretty much guarantee a matchup. Solo is just a boring slog and removes the critical emotional element from it.

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I unfortunately didn't know anything about the game until I played it. When I finished it, I asked my friend why he enjoyed it so much. I regret not playing it earlier.

 

[Transistor]

I unfortunately didn't know anything about the game until I played it. When I finished it, I asked my friend why he enjoyed it so much. I regret not playing it earlier.

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Understandable. It's one of those "you just had to be there" type games that just doesn't translate well if you weren't.

 

[MrNewVegas]

Can't they take 10 minutes to properly test the game before releasing it or I dunno take 5 minutes to patch it?

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Way to sully the devs. You have no idea how hard it is to fix or how much effort they have put into it. Way to slander the devs hard work.

 

[Barrel Cannon]

Dw I'm with u OP. It's a garbage thing not to patch. Luckily on PC there's workarounds unlike on consoles where shit like this is something you have to live with.

 

[Lightjolly]

What. Its a fantastic port.