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PSA: It's not so difficult and pricey to get into FFXIV !
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So how does that potion character boost work? I have a couple of old characters around level 20-25, but don't feel like messing around with ARR. Can I just start with Heavensward after the boost?
I disagree with this.
Heavensward and Shadowbringers are 2 of the best Final Fantasy stories they've ever told.
Some of the best RPGs of the last decade from a story telling perspective, not even accounting for all the other positives about the game
there's 2 different things. the story skip, and a level boost
level boost gets you a level 60 but completes none of the quests
story skip completes the quests so you can move into the newer stuff, but doesn't level a character for you
I have the base game with the first two expansions since last year but I didn't start it yet. I have two weeks off at the end of july so I'm thinking of finally using my free one month.
I'm just not sure what class to play. I usually like to play a mage class but I want to play mostly solo and I'd prefer using a class who is gonna have an easy time in solo and won't have trouble finding a party if I need to. What class/job would you recommend playing?
I'm just not sure what class to play. I usually like to play a mage class but I want to play mostly solo and I'd prefer using a class who is gonna have an easy time in solo and won't have trouble finding a party if I need to. What class/job would you recommend playing?
Let me know when they get rid of the subscription fee. No way am I paying anywhere near $10/month to play any game. For $10/month you can get Game Pass and play over 200 games...and even that is a little pricey, but worth it. For one game though? Nah. That business model has got to die.
I see this sentiment a lot and while I used to share it when I was younger, you really are paying for a genuine service in this game. An expansion doesn't drop and then you just get hotfixes once or twice a year afterwards, they continue to provide substantial updates/events/story patches to bridge the gap between one expansion to another. You really get what you pay into.
That being said unless you buy a house there's zero detriment to stopping and going with your sub.
Same. I don't know if I could ever justify a subscription for a game again. Especially one you have to pay for up front. It sucks, because I'd be interested in this if it was either F2P or B2P.
I know your pain started playing it five days before The new expansion Been enjoying it so far. But not having anyone to play with it gets to you After a while.
Game pass for $10 is a great deal and not pricey at all. Also $10 for an MMO is different from game pass
Haven't played in 3 years at least, but how easy(or costly) is it to change the appearance of your character outside of armor/gear?
I'm not ever paying £9 a month for a single game. I only have so much time for gaming and I play other games too.
Especially not when I've got to pay for the game in the first place.
Also from what I'm told certain progress is time gated too, so if I did get a big amount of free time at once I'm still limited in what I can do. That's F2P shit.
Especially not when I've got to pay for the game in the first place.
Also from what I'm told certain progress is time gated too, so if I did get a big amount of free time at once I'm still limited in what I can do. That's F2P shit.
I'd love to get back in but there were some fights that required a party. I don't mind grinding, I don't mind wandering. But make me wait to do what I want to do and I am out. I think I got somewhere into heavensward.
Yeah that's never a good selling point lol"It gets better after 30 hours"
Life's too short and there are too many good games to play for that.
This is the reason why i never played it even when my friends were really into it and pestering me to join.
Anyone ever have issues with the free trial on PS4? How does it
A friend of mine has been having difficulty in accessing in game with the free trial. He set up an account and password, but he's saying he isn't able to type his user name and it defaults to his PSN name.
I'm unfamiliar with how the trial works. Does he need to register anything via Mog Station? He says that the site says he needs a registration code. Any help would be appreciated, as I fear this is already souring his experience. Square Enix customer support doesn't seem to be much help either and their responses are slow.
A friend of mine has been having difficulty in accessing in game with the free trial. He set up an account and password, but he's saying he isn't able to type his user name and it defaults to his PSN name.
I'm unfamiliar with how the trial works. Does he need to register anything via Mog Station? He says that the site says he needs a registration code. Any help would be appreciated, as I fear this is already souring his experience. Square Enix customer support doesn't seem to be much help either and their responses are slow.
I tried it for the first time this week. It's pretty fun, but fucking lol at not being allowed to make a character on the same server as my friends. Might actually keep playing it if I was allowed to play with my friends, but as it is I doubt I'll bother setting up a subscription after my free month runs out.
I like how their solution to overcrowding due to a new expansion is "let's disable new character creation on every server". Great way to pick up new players, what a joke.
I like how their solution to overcrowding due to a new expansion is "let's disable new character creation on every server". Great way to pick up new players, what a joke.
I've tried to get into the game twice but the beginning and thinking about the time commitment absolutely paralyzes me and I never play much in the free trials.
That's the only other MMO I've actually played besides ESO. I've been a top ranked DD on the ESO (EU) leaderboards and tried FF XIV as a tank (Darkblade I think). One thing that I noticed how incredibly good the story is for an MMO and I had a blast with it.
The one downside was that even in normal dungeons people would get a bit upset with me not always aggroing all adds in stressful situations. Also some of the dungeon mechanics are quite harsh, so I always had to look them up beforehand. After a while it became as stressful as ESO to me and too much of an investment... yes the community is nice but demanding.
While in ESO all content aside from Vet & Hardmode raids or DLC dungeons doesn't even require correct roles, nor are mechanics an issue. In FF XIV I felt like even normal content is quite hard without proper knowledge. It's also probably because the tank role is more demanding than DPS but I was still sad when I realized this wasn't something I could play just casually.
The one downside was that even in normal dungeons people would get a bit upset with me not always aggroing all adds in stressful situations. Also some of the dungeon mechanics are quite harsh, so I always had to look them up beforehand. After a while it became as stressful as ESO to me and too much of an investment... yes the community is nice but demanding.
While in ESO all content aside from Vet & Hardmode raids or DLC dungeons doesn't even require correct roles, nor are mechanics an issue. In FF XIV I felt like even normal content is quite hard without proper knowledge. It's also probably because the tank role is more demanding than DPS but I was still sad when I realized this wasn't something I could play just casually.
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FFXIV is everything I want FF to be, but the online part just keeps me from playing. It doesn't really matter that it's got a friendly community, the very fact that you have to play with other people and the fact that it's structured like an MMO means I can never play it. I really just want them to make a single-player entry similar in tone and intention as XIV.
Maybe price/value is a subjective thing. $10 for an MMO is different from GP for sure, but you can play ESO on GP and not have to also dish out an extra $10/month for a sub, so $10 a month for an MMO is not even the same thing as $10 a month for an MMO.
Here's my biggest qualm right now. I actually played a ton of FF14 before the first expansion released. I'm not sure why, just kinda fell off/had no time. I want to get back in, but I know the actual story is one of the bigger aspects of the game, and I forgot a lot of it, but I really don't want to redo a lot of those tedious story missions again. Would I just be better off watching all the cutscenes and whatnot on Youtube and starting with Shadowbringer content right away or how exactly is that recommended?
I've been intermittently subbing for single months and slowly chipping away at the mountain of tedious ARR quests over the past couple years (I have very little patience for boredom in games nowadays). I'm finally getting closer to Heavensward, but only now am I starting to realize that I may have made a mistake going with a tank, lol. It was a role I had never played in an MMO and I thought it'd be an interesting thing to try, and it is, but as a primarily solo player matching in for all group activities, I'm really not sure I want to deal with the pressure of Not Fucking Up in such a pivotal role. I know you can switch at pretty much any time, but I wish I hadn't already spent so much time on this class 😭
This game has to be the best example I've encountered of fan enthusiasm convincing me to stick with something. Most games I would have abandoned multiple times over by now, but I follow so many people who are just so damn enthusiastic about the game that it's infectious lol.
This game has to be the best example I've encountered of fan enthusiasm convincing me to stick with something. Most games I would have abandoned multiple times over by now, but I follow so many people who are just so damn enthusiastic about the game that it's infectious lol.
I played on the PS4 beta and I guess that was preventing me from doing the free trial. I'll try this out and see if it works. Thanks!
I really want to get into this game and I don't mind having to get all of the expansions, it's really just the monthly sub that makes me feel like I should commit to playing FFXIV to make it worth it. Since I tend to hop from one newly-bought game to another in the next month or so, I feel like I'd put my money to waste if I put it off for at least a week (or not making "enough" story progress). Maybe I'll try to find a time for it in the lull of games I want to get.
Just got back into the game after taking a 5-6 month break and I regret not finishing up the 7th Astral Quests at that point. I had hit around midway and just got fed up with the back to back fetch quests that weren't exciting. Once I got back into it though I powered through it with my SO and we managed to finish it up yesterday. The ending to it was magnificent and boosted me to get past Heavensward now. Heard that this is the pinnacle of the storyline which I really can't wait to finish.
I got into it near the end of May. Right now I am about halfway through Heavensward. I will agree ARR and the patch story content after it are a real slog. Other than a few cool moments, mainly towards the end of the in between patch story, I can see many people being turned away by the base game. I personally just powered through it. I am glad with being rewarded with HW's story which is amazing. I hear Shadowbringer's story is even better. Still got a while to go till then.
Im one of those ppl that dropped fairly early, like lvl 20 i think.
I feel like i know the answers already but:
Would i like this game if i dont really like mmos? (Grinding levels, repetitiveness, that general sense that im "working" rather than "playing" which is usually exacerbated by the existence of a monthly sub, etc.)
Does the gameplay exist to service the story (that's usually a requisite for me when thinking about good game stories) or is the story more a flavor to accompany the grind? For example, kill "x" amount of "y" stuff kills a lot of momentum for me and is usually pretty jarring when im trying to move a plot forward.
I feel like i know the answers already but:
Would i like this game if i dont really like mmos? (Grinding levels, repetitiveness, that general sense that im "working" rather than "playing" which is usually exacerbated by the existence of a monthly sub, etc.)
Does the gameplay exist to service the story (that's usually a requisite for me when thinking about good game stories) or is the story more a flavor to accompany the grind? For example, kill "x" amount of "y" stuff kills a lot of momentum for me and is usually pretty jarring when im trying to move a plot forward.
Well thanks to a lot of hospital visits I can't afford Shadowbringers anymore and I can't pay for the monthly. Even at the cheaper option.
Dang it lol. I'm not gonna be able to join in for a long time.
Dang it lol. I'm not gonna be able to join in for a long time.
The main problem here is time.
If you don't pay for the expensive content skip, it takes dozens and dozens of hours to get through the MSQs.
I'm currently bringing a level 61 PLD throug mh the end of HW and it's been an utter slog, not to mention attempting to raise other jobs too.
The game itself is incredibly fun, and if you enjoy the story content there is TONNES of it, but if you're interested in end game first and foremost, it's either a huge time sink or extra monetary cost.
I know this is an MMO so time sink is the name of the game, but for new players who want to catch up it can be gruelling.
If you don't pay for the expensive content skip, it takes dozens and dozens of hours to get through the MSQs.
I'm currently bringing a level 61 PLD throug mh the end of HW and it's been an utter slog, not to mention attempting to raise other jobs too.
The game itself is incredibly fun, and if you enjoy the story content there is TONNES of it, but if you're interested in end game first and foremost, it's either a huge time sink or extra monetary cost.
I know this is an MMO so time sink is the name of the game, but for new players who want to catch up it can be gruelling.
I can vouch for how friendly the FFXIV community is. Right now it feels like 1/100 is toxic and that 1 person is "niced to silence"(lol) by like 2-5 non-toxic players. I am not at any current content though so that could be a reason for the rarity.
Yeah I'm noticing this a lot more going into Stormblood's post-game content, so many of the boss mechanics aren't very intuitive unless you look up guides beforehand. I imagine that was fun the first week the raids were out, with people wiping left and right as they figured things out, but right now I feel a severe pressure to study the entire thing before jumping in, and that's playing DPS, I can't imagine how frustrating it is as a tank.
The bad attitiudes sometimes come out in the 24 man dungeons but I rarely see it outside of that
I pumped like 160h into it when the last expansion came out and was super motivated but I didn't even get past ARR yet. I adored the game but I dunno, I think I can't really deal with the time investment.
But it's sooo good though :(
I was playing FFXIV for a bit. Like a month ago. Watched the Shadowbringers trailer and decided to give it a try. Actually had planned on buying the expansion. But I got so overwhelmed. There's just so much stuff to do. Too much for me.
Maybe if I had given it a try before all that content came it wouldn't be so bad but damn. I want to just level my class. But then you got to level all these other jobs on top like cooking, or botany etc.
And with other games coming out this year that I want to play I just don't have the time. Maybe I'll give it another shot again somewhere down the line and finish the story. I was getting into that. But right now? It's just too much man.
Maybe if I had given it a try before all that content came it wouldn't be so bad but damn. I want to just level my class. But then you got to level all these other jobs on top like cooking, or botany etc.
And with other games coming out this year that I want to play I just don't have the time. Maybe I'll give it another shot again somewhere down the line and finish the story. I was getting into that. But right now? It's just too much man.
I'm like you, I never really got MMOs, until I played FFXIV. But in these things, YMMV. I agree with OP that the gameplay only gets better the further you progress, the more you unlock new skills, and the more complex the raids and trials become.
The story is absolutely a core appeal of the game next to the gameplay. Progress in the story is mandatory and is how you unlock more and more of the game. By the time you get to shadowbringers, the team has gotten amazingly good at weaving both the core MMO gameplay and the story together, to give incredible boss fights and sequences. It's a FF RPG in every sense of the word.
One thing to note is that the developers have smoothen progression so that you can basically beeline through the main story only, without bothering about grinding side quests and such.
Best MMO to play right now by a country mile, and not at all expensive. Neither in sub price nor in initial purchase. Also absolutely zero pay 2 win and even very light on paid cosmetics (even if I'd rather have none at all).
Love it, love it, love it.
I only started making real progress in the game after Stormblood came out (second expansion, third campaign) so I know what it's like to jump into the game super late starting at A Realm Reborn (base game, first campaign). Still love it.
Love it, love it, love it.
I only started making real progress in the game after Stormblood came out (second expansion, third campaign) so I know what it's like to jump into the game super late starting at A Realm Reborn (base game, first campaign). Still love it.
Sorry OP but I don't think I'll ever play a game that requires me to pay a monthly subscription on top of the cost of the game itself just so it can grant me the privilege of being able to play it. I'd feel like I need to sink as many hours into it as humanly possible just so I'm getting my money's worth and I'm just not interested in that kind of pressure.
It's a shame though, cause the game does look really cool.
It's a shame though, cause the game does look really cool.
You don't "got to do" any of that man, just pick a combat job and you can play the entire storyline through to the end without touching anything else.
I really don't blame people for feeling burned out in the ARR areas. The story takes a while to set up and level 1-50 is basically a tutorial. And there's a lot to do; you start one thing then move on to the next without completing and getting rewarded. And some feel like they have to rush just so they can "catch up" to the current content.
I don't really have an advice besides take your time and enjoy the really polished version of the game out right now. Maybe you might start to understand why this game get a lot of praise after a while.
I don't really have an advice besides take your time and enjoy the really polished version of the game out right now. Maybe you might start to understand why this game get a lot of praise after a while.
You still have to go through all the previous story content to access shadowbringer. If you want to skip those and play shadowbringer, you can buy the story skip tickets for like 20 bucks each expansion or something. Then just watch a recap of the story on youtube, or watch all the cutscenes from the inn's cutscene book.
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I hear you on this one. What I do is sub for a month or two every year, or right after an expansion releases, to play through all the new content. I fit it in around large content drops when lots of other people will be playing and it'll be quite active, and between other game releases when I've otherwise got some downtime in my gaming hobbies. It's honestly a pretty great value doing it this way, you get a load of gaming time and content for your money, and the Era guild is always populated with friendly people to play with.
It really is a great game, even the base ARR is solid if a little unevenly paced, though it improves greatly as it goes forward. Heavensward and Shadowbringers are incredibly strong and top tier Final Fantasy games.
Might do that honestly, I wanna experience the story, but not the actual questing parts from scratch again. Thanks for the heads up.
I wanna play it again now that I game on pc but I can't find any store with cheap keys in the US.
I bought in a couple days ago, but haven't had much of a chance to really get into it other than creating a character. I'm looking forward to digging in even though I've heard that ARR is a slog. I haven't played a MMO in 5-6 years, so this will definitely be interesting.
MMOs are definitely tough for adults though given that they can sometimes require a large block of time to do something, rather than being easy to pick up and play and put back down as necessary. I have work, a wife, and a 4 month old, so I'll definitely be testing the "do I have time for this" idea. Usually I have a block of a couple hours at night after everyone goes to sleep to play games or whatever, so we'll see how well that works for something like this.
MMOs are definitely tough for adults though given that they can sometimes require a large block of time to do something, rather than being easy to pick up and play and put back down as necessary. I have work, a wife, and a 4 month old, so I'll definitely be testing the "do I have time for this" idea. Usually I have a block of a couple hours at night after everyone goes to sleep to play games or whatever, so we'll see how well that works for something like this.
