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PSA: Unpatched Balan Wonderworld's Final Boss is potentially seizure-inducing (update: bug removed with day one patch)
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What do you mean "pass" QA? QA likely caught this issue and it was marked as inconsequential, to be fixed in a patch or as something that wouldn't impact your regular user.
QA doesn't get to block game releases.
Even on top of the seizure issues, that just looks plain terrible and is an assault on the eyes. Is this a bug?
I don't even have epilepsy and that hurt my eyes and gave me a very slight headache. What the fuck SE?
Honestly I didn't even catch that first text when I looked at the screenshot, he probably just saw the video and replied. These people probably get tons of DMs.
I don't know, everything about this game scream old school, and I think I've seen this kind of effect of flashing white screen used in some old jrpg etc. Could be totally intentional by the developer out of misguided nostalgia attempt
Stuff like this in shipping software can land smaller studios in EXTREMELY hot water with the very process of the platform holders. I know at my company, anything severe enough to fail cert is a stop ship for that exact reason. Even missing one of those cert deadlines causes headaches for corporate bean counters so most companies (in my experience obviously) take it seriously and don't second guess it.
This could be a monumental fuck up that occurred at multiple junctures but generally I'd think a company like Square wouldn't log it as a known shippable. 🤷‍♀️
I read your previous post but I failed to see him explicitly confirm that. There's no guarantee he watched the whole video or gave explicit approval to the effect. Or maybe I'm misunderstanding something?
Yeah that's not a response to the effect. Just Yuji ignoring being told about it (probably accidentally)
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Uhhh, isn't that PM basically just someone showing Yuji Naka the video in the OP without the context of the Game Informer story or the OP here? It's literally "here's a video," "okay thanks."
I don't think Yuji Naka is saying that he intended that scene with his response, but in the next tweet you can see the message before the video in the DM and they basically told him about this situation and asked what he thinks about it. I think Yuji Naka probably just missed the first message and saw the video which he responded to.
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Just want to reaffirm myself about accusing of him posting a poor intentional tweet was mainly my fault. I should have known better and not jumping to conclusion.
Yeah, you're both right. I hope everything's clear. I feel so bad that he gets flood with DMs right now.....
Yeah, you're both right. I hope everything's clear. I feel so bad that he gets flood with DMs right now.....
Oh damn I missed the second tweet that shows the message before the video.
Yeah, you're right, I think for now he may have just missed or misread that. I hope this gets patched out ASAP.
I swear, if I'd to read another "how did this pass QA?" post.....
Hope they can fix the issue. Even as someone without epilepsy, that flashing really hurt my eyes
Hope they can fix the issue. Even as someone without epilepsy, that flashing really hurt my eyes
Watched for like 4 seconds and noped out because its too fucked up in general to just watch lol. Comparitively the Cyberpunk sequence didn't bother me at all pre-patch so yeah the title is right and it's worse than I thought it would be. It doesn't look intentional though. It looks like something is wrong with the alphas or something like that. At least I hope that's what it is lol.
My own impression is that someone along the chain probably waived this as not a big deal and they'll likely get a stern talking to. I wouldn't attribute malice to SE as a whole.
But yes, usually stuff like this causes a QA database run through to look if it was logged and if it wasn't, any QA support studios are usually wrongly blamed.
With that said, hope a fix is issued ASAP.
I had it in a tiny window and it still made my eyes have a weird time. Reminded me of how optometrists flash lights directly into your eyes, but in rapid succession.
Definitely seems glitched but if that's what it's shipped like on the disc/cart that could prove disastrous.
Definitely seems glitched but if that's what it's shipped like on the disc/cart that could prove disastrous.
And sadly, they would have marked that bug as WNF/TFU faster than it took you to write that :/
Definitely don't if you have issues with flashing lights. If you're able to watch and if you're curious, watch it on your phone with the screen brightness turned down and tilt the phone away from you a little so you're not staring at the whole screen.
Has to be a glitch, surely? It's like... swapping the game picture for a white canvas every other frame. Even if it wasn't dangerous it's really annoying, no way that was intended.
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Unlike Sony and Microsoft, Nintendo games have to pass checks for this to achieve certification. Don't know if footage is about yet, but it might be absent from the Switch version.
It happens multiple times in the video (which I viewed at a very small size at reduced playback speed) with the same attack, so it's not a one off instance. The whole move may just be bugged. Now, was it just this disc or this version? I'm sure someone else will test and find out shortly. But yeah... this is pretty bad. Espicially if someone plays the game unpatched and gets to this. Even at 0.25 speed it's fairly intense.
That is unquestionably a bug. There are frames of the flashing where it doesn't cover the whole screen.
If it doesn't show up in the Switch version, you know that it's because they didn't test any platform other than the Switch. The PC demo from a while back had SEVERAL graphics issues that would not be apparent in lower spec scaling settings because the relevant rendering features are turned off.
This game is a crushing disappointment. Naoto Ohshima is a fantastic character designer and it is a shame to see all of those wonderful designs get implemented seemingly so carelessly.
If it doesn't show up in the Switch version, you know that it's because they didn't test any platform other than the Switch. The PC demo from a while back had SEVERAL graphics issues that would not be apparent in lower spec scaling settings because the relevant rendering features are turned off.
This game is a crushing disappointment. Naoto Ohshima is a fantastic character designer and it is a shame to see all of those wonderful designs get implemented seemingly so carelessly.
Holy crap. Seriously, I'm not photosensitive or anything but I couldn't even look at it for half a second. Honestly I'm not sure I've seen anything like that and I've watched tons of videos containing flashing images.
It almost seems like there's something about that specific shade of off-white makes it way worse:
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It almost seems like there's something about that specific shade of off-white makes it way worse:
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It's so infuriating to keep seeing people ignorantly push the blame on QA. Anyone who spends any amount of time in game development would know that the reality is quite different where despite QA having limited time & resources there are always a large amount of reported issues which go unfixed and it is outside of QA's responsibility
Also that flash is really bad and noticeable to just about everyone. I'd imagine it might not be fully intended, but then again just about everything around this game looks terrible so I'm sure there's some dev nightmare stories behind it
It's a little concerning how many people are actually checking it out to see if it's seizure inducing.
Best advice is don't, you can read the comments here with most people saying it could be. If you have to insist, watch it in a super small video at 0.25 playback speed, and like, half look away.
You wouldn't stare into a Solar Eclipse would you? So don't go staring at something that could cause a seizure without ample preparation and protection first.
Best advice is don't, you can read the comments here with most people saying it could be. If you have to insist, watch it in a super small video at 0.25 playback speed, and like, half look away.
You wouldn't stare into a Solar Eclipse would you? So don't go staring at something that could cause a seizure without ample preparation and protection first.
Does this game support HDR? That would make it muuuuuch worse than Youtube...
And people wonder why Nintendo puts flash-prevention in its emulators, remember this thing?
Maybe this? It's harmless but might indicate an upcoming migraine.
en.wikipedia.org
And people wonder why Nintendo puts flash-prevention in its emulators, remember this thing?
Maybe this? It's harmless but might indicate an upcoming migraine.
Scintillating scotoma - Wikipedia
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That definitely looks like a bug with the white screen transition, not on purpose.
They better start patching it like yesterday, because it's really bad.
They better start patching it like yesterday, because it's really bad.
On the bright side the demo was so bad that anyone who was going to play this and tried it will probably pass. For everyone who is left, be careful.
I guess I'm too used at looking screens since it's just a white screen blinking effect but yeah, clearly a glitch and dangerous for who suffers from epilepsy. This game is such a mistake...
