well you're objectively wrong from a legal standpoint and subjectively wrong from a moral standpoint
and don't even try to turn around and say that people are only mad at this because "gators" or whatever the hell
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well you're objectively wrong from a legal standpoint and subjectively wrong from a moral standpoint
and don't even try to turn around and say that people are only mad at this because "gators" or whatever the hell
My point was that you appeared to argue that anthropomorphic cartoon animals were inherently sexual. Seeing media featuring anthropomorphic cartoon animals as a "scene" is unnecessarily reductive.
Right when you use the hypothetical, unquantifiable specter of "manufactured outrage" to excuse someone for something that there should be very real, righteous outrage over, you have lost the plot
You don't get to handwave anger at literal child porn because you think some people are being disingenuous with their online anger
I do think it's a bit of a bold, and kinda dumb, career move to go from essentially being ostracised from games media to then turn around and write a video game
There were plenty of other avenues to go down to the extent I think it's a little unfair on all the other hardworking folks now being screwed over. If their niche target audience understandably turns against the game, they've basically wasted their time outside of getting some work experience in and (hopefully) a paycheck.
So I think it's worth signal boosting some other queer games. Super Lesbian Animal RPG kinda tackles the same themes, and while it's not completely my jam I can see a lot of folks who'd have been into this game digging it.
There were plenty of other avenues to go down to the extent I think it's a little unfair on all the other hardworking folks now being screwed over. If their niche target audience understandably turns against the game, they've basically wasted their time outside of getting some work experience in and (hopefully) a paycheck.
So I think it's worth signal boosting some other queer games. Super Lesbian Animal RPG kinda tackles the same themes, and while it's not completely my jam I can see a lot of folks who'd have been into this game digging it.
Exactly, having a queer game getting lots of negative attention due to its writer having a past with child pornography doesn't help representation at all.
It's a real shame that when such a game had its time to shine during a PS5 reveal event, it was stained with a problematic writer. As others pointed out ITT, it seems to be even worse that only know she's addressing the topic. I do believe that some people with a problematic past (CP, racism, anti-LGBTQ stances, misogyny etc) deserve a chance to redeem themselves, but I'm not gonna buy this shit of "hey folks sorry for all that, but please keep an eye on my game!". The Kotaku article was gross, unless she starts to properly address CP as a real issue and how wrong she was in spreading this kind of garbage, I'm staying as far as possible from anything she's involved.
I'm not about to cancel someone who made one error in judgement (probably based on the decisions of the editorial staff) due to the "unreal" nature of the content, who generally doesn't seem to be a problematic person and doesn't actually support the distribution of child pornography.
Honestly this post doesn't really seem like a genuine "buyer beware". It feels like an attempt to demonise a creator that most people had forgotten about and moved on from because the outrage far outweighed the mishap.
(And because I need this to be made clear for everyone, I am not downplaying the abhorrence of CP. I just don't agree with tacking "Child Pornographer" onto someone who didn't post actual child porn.)
EDIT: I was informed that the legality of fictitious CP is pretty clear cut. I truly didn't know this, and for that I apologise. I was ignorant of it.
Honestly this post doesn't really seem like a genuine "buyer beware". It feels like an attempt to demonise a creator that most people had forgotten about and moved on from because the outrage far outweighed the mishap.
(And because I need this to be made clear for everyone, I am not downplaying the abhorrence of CP. I just don't agree with tacking "Child Pornographer" onto someone who didn't post actual child porn.)
EDIT: I was informed that the legality of fictitious CP is pretty clear cut. I truly didn't know this, and for that I apologise. I was ignorant of it.
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Stop excusing animated/drawn porn as not child pornography . You're part of the fucking problem normalizing it. It's very much considered by many governments as the literal same thing.
If I have a picture of a kid being fucked in the face is it not child pornography now because its a drawing?.... No its still porn of a child. and spreading that shit is terrible. Its not something that should ever be consumed (term being like consuming media)
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Calling it that makes she seem like a criminal. It's hilarious how much people want to be cops on the internet
She posted porn depicting children and refused to properly address it for over a year, only now making a half-hearted attempt of an apology about the seriousness of what she did.
Well, it is a criminal act and illegal in most countries. Not sure your point.
Editorial staff.. really? In the original article she basically mused about which child porn she'd like to see next.
you might want to revisit my post from earlier in the thread because the law disagrees with your definition in the majority of the world
I take it back. I didn't know and I was wrong. Thank you for this. :/
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lmao tea
the same people dragging it on twitter probably look at hermione r34 on reddit
Approximately half of the respondents reported being in a relationship, of which 76% were in a relationship with another member of furry fandom.[16] Examples of sexual aspects within furry fandom include erotic art and furry-themed cybersex.[45][46] The term "yiff" is sometimes used to indicate sexual activity or sexual material within the fandom—this applies to sexual activity and interaction within the subculture whether in the form of cybersex or offline.[47][48]
Sexual attraction to furry characters is a polarizing issue. In one survey with 4,300 furry respondents, 37% answered that sexual attraction is important in their furry activities, 38% were ambivalent, and 24% answered that it has little or nothing to do with their furry activities.[44] In a different online survey, 33% of furry respondents answered that they have a "significant sexual interest in furry", another 46% stated they have a "minor sexual interest in furry", and the remaining 21% stated they have a "non-sexual interest in furry". The survey specifically avoided adult-oriented websites to prevent bias.[17] Another survey found that 96.3% of male furry respondents reported viewing furry pornography, compared with 78.3% of female; males estimated 50.9% of all furry art they view is pornographic, compared with 30.7% female. Furries have a slight preference for pornographic furry artwork over non-pornographic artwork. 17.1% of males reported that when they viewed pornography it is exclusively or near-exclusively furry pornography, and only about 5% reported that pornography was the top factor which got them into the fandom.
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And i fail to see how its not a "scene" if scene is simply shorthand for a subculture.
Given that she put her name on that and released it for all the world to see, seems like it would be a a slam dunk case for the prosecution?
I honestly don't know how the legal process for that kind of thing would work out and to be honest I have no desire to see her tried for it.
I just think it's very vital to point out that it's not a gray zone type of situation or an "oopsie" to be overlooked
You have literally NOTHING to back this shit up. Prove it or quit while you're fucking ahead.
lol it's wild how quickly people forgot about this/gave Kotaku a pass, that she never apologized until she had something to gain and how there hasn't been a single actioned post in this thread.
It is blowing my mind that people are just wanting to move on from this. The people who are raising concerns about the anger stemming from bias against the author's gender or sexuality must not be parents. I have a young daughter, and the idea of her coming into contact with this sort of imagery because somebody didn't think it is a big deal makes me livid; I do not care who the author is, period. Normalizing it by posting it to a popular blog is really fucked up, and this apology (though seemingly heartfelt) does not undo the damage.
How is it a mistake to watch whats considered child porn and make an article about making it sexier.... You dont get that shit unless you actively look and search for it.
Because it isnt CSEM. There was no actual child abused or exploited in order for the content to exist. This conversation was ALREADY going on in another thread where I talked about it in detail and OP ignored it to make this callout thread.
Check my post history here and the old site, it's been a fun way to know who knows what that site is. Its literally a got'cha for avatar quotes.
It's an important thing to alert people to and it's a pretty bad look that an apology is only forthcoming now when there's a game she's actively involved with that's getting some media attention.
I'm glad she's accepted culpability and agrees it was seriously bad for her to write that article then that's great and if others are sated by that then you do you. However, I can't in all good consciousness support this project if she's attached to it, even if it tackles underrepresented themes and gives a platform to underrepresented demographics.
Instead I'll look for works from other underrepresented creators that didn't think it was a good idea to post about cartoon representations of child pornography.
I'm glad she's accepted culpability and agrees it was seriously bad for her to write that article then that's great and if others are sated by that then you do you. However, I can't in all good consciousness support this project if she's attached to it, even if it tackles underrepresented themes and gives a platform to underrepresented demographics.
Instead I'll look for works from other underrepresented creators that didn't think it was a good idea to post about cartoon representations of child pornography.
My dude its like me coming in denouncing racism and white nationalism while sporting a profile pic with the Stormfront logo. You arent slick.
to be fair the world's been a pretty fucking wild ride over the last 8 months or so
Again I'm not the one excusing cp whether or not the material is real or not because its the same damn category. That shit enables people who are into that gross stuff. And as i've said anyone can go into my post history to know how I feel about underaged people being sexualized aka its fucking gross.
Is there a way to see this article now or is it scrubbed from the internet?
I think I read some of it when it first came out but it's hazy.
I think I read some of it when it first came out but it's hazy.
Hi Child-porn apologist!
I don't need to back it up, her article discusses how she and her friend wanted to see cartoon child porn, how she'd like to see an improvement in the medium all while posting images of said cartoon child porn, it's all in her article.
I don't think you can look at the one sentence she writes at the end about making animated porn (the subject of the article) better as "making child pornography better." She says she wants the genre to have more references to source material like the Harry Potter one did, not that she wants more of underage material.
Kinda disgusted to see there is a defense force for someone who watched CP and posted it as an article. Pretending people are concern trolling just because shes a woman/its a pro LGBT game. She casually watched child porn with friends, and posted it in an article. Its totally reasonable for people to not want to support the game after that.
There are other pro lgbt games that don't have her as a writer to support
There are other pro lgbt games that don't have her as a writer to support
I'd like to think that if we're going to give people a stage we'd be wise to denounce someone when they're using it wrongly, yes, she shouldn't have a career, not in writing that is.
Action will speak louder then words, if the game she writes tackles mature topics well and she donates or puts effort into helping charities that are against CP then we might look back on this as a massive fuck up that she learned from.
I don't think it's ever too late to apologize for a mistake and make an effort to learn/grow from it. On the scale of apologizes this felt a lot more sincere then the average "I'm sorry you were upset" spin we often see. Again it's on the writer to continue to do the right things and earn the trust she lost in a lot of people, and if she is truly sorry I think that'll show with time. If the apology was just damage control then it's only a matter of time before the same mistake happens.
And before someone twists this, what she did was unacceptable, and she deserves the criticism and scorn that has come from it.
So you're saying she wants more children IPs with children stars attached on her pornhub account? that's much better!
the article still exists on kotaku, but scrubbed of images.
oh, thanks! guess i remembered incorrectly that it was taken down.
No, that's not even close to what I'm saying. But if the goalpost is now, "how dare she mention that porn is being made of family-friendly video games," boy do I have some bad news for you.
...which features underage characters, though? i.e., "This child porn got it right, others should follow its example".
People didn't forget about THQ Nordic and the 8chan thing, people still mention when they're involved with a game so people are aware. Hell Filip Miucin and "Too Much Water" are mentioned more often than Kotaku posting child pornography
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