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PS5, Xbox Series X|S, and PC part shortages won't end soon, says AMD. Expects production to start catching up to demand in the second half of 2021
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I've already written off the idea of getting new hardware any time soon. It's just way too much work to try and get anything at MSRP right now. Hate being right about the fact that the shortages were going to go way beyond the holiday season.
Now that I've finally bought myself an entry-level NAS, I'll be downsizing to a mid tower and find myself tempted to use the situation as an excuse to upgrade, even though I know the smart thing to do is to stick with my 8700K and see how Alder Lake pans out (rumoured to launch in late Q3/early Q4 and support both DDR5 and PCI-E 5), so as far as my particular case is concerned, I'm actually glad the stock issues are still persisting.
I can't speak for other retailers but I don't see why we would have proportionally more Digital PS5s than others are seeing. I'm in the UK though so the situation may be different elsewhere.
People have speculated that the reason for the smaller order was the SoC being last second. Not gonna comment on the tools or the performance cause I'm not a developer.
It really isn't difficult to imagine Sony manufacturing more consoles when the same scenario happened last generation.
Microsoft as you said needs to upgrade it server racks. But even with server racks it didn't manufacturer as much as XB1 as Sony with the PS4. The order for wafer reflect the companies expectation for demands imo.
Microsoft's cloud gaming service Project xCloud has been confirmed to have "hundreds of thousands" of active users.
That was the last updated about the number of users. I don't think the rollout for the upgrade servers is reason enough for the Microsoft to catch up and surpass Sony's manufacturing out
Wafers, really? Not chips? Because the PS5 SoC is quite a bit smaller, so if they ordered double the wafers, that would mean more than double the chips.
Every day I feel luckier managing to score a last-minute Target launch-day unit for PS5.
...I wish I could get a new GPU at MSRP though, dang.
...I wish I could get a new GPU at MSRP though, dang.
However the SoC for the series S will be quite a bit smaller than the PS5. Still conservatively I would probably estimate for a 2:1 ratio between the console manufactured between PS5 and XB series X/S. If you follow that Twitter thread smarter people than me show there working out.
I really question what this will mean for ps5 exslusives games and how they will sell with the ps5 playerbase really low compared to the 100 million ps4's out there.
There has to be crossgen support right ?
There has to be crossgen support right ?
Hm...
Reading your post I am not sure anymore, cloud uptick and the rollout in the near future could be big or demand could be lower than we think, I am not saying it is a 50/50 on whether it is popular enough to cause a massive increase in server blades enough that they end up ordering more than sony but if I had to bet I wouldnt be comfortable putting down money on either option as it is a massive unknown.
Fun to speculate but one thing Ive thought about is that in pure hardware sales xbox would do better than 2 to 1 this gen compared to playstation, whatever the ratio would be I dont know but alsoafter your post I dont know if the server blades would make up the difference.
At any point in time, rationally, if there are even 1 million people using the cloud at the same time would be a big deal, let alone millions, so they might not need that many blades after all, say 20 million or more and if that is the gap this gen, yeah I can see it, could be close I think, at leasrt this gen.
100 million PS4s doesn't mean 100 million sales. The vast majority of that install base only buys 2-3 games per year - your basic "CoD, FIFA, GTA" customer. Most of the time, AAA PlayStation exclusives sell to the hardcore types who are also the people who get new hardware as soon as they can. These stock shortages are presenting some issues, but once there are about 20 million PS5 customers (probably around the end of this year), last-gen versions of games are unlikely to sell much at all. I sincerely hope games like GoW Ragnarok aren't cross-gen - if they are, that's a whole lot of time, money and effort put into making the game worse so they can get maybe 10% more launch sales. Utter waste.
This is having bigger effects than just gaming, cars must be flying off the showroom floor.
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Did Microsoft make way more Series S than X or are people just not buying them? because they seem to be contantly in stock here in Australia.
Early adapters are mostly hardcore fans and they care about power and don't care about spending as much as casuals do. I think Series S will sell better than X in the long run, but in short term X was always destined to sell more.
I hope I'll be able to get a PS5 by April, which is already later than i would have liked because I want to play Returnal on it, but yea, the stock issues have been rough.
Anyway based on that I am guessing its mainly down to demand.
Not in Australia but they are more in stock here too, with that said when Series X is in stock here, its usually up for like a day still before going out, while Series S stays in stock for like a week each time. In comparison if PS5 is in stock here for longer than 2 minutes then you are being sold non-existent stock 😒
Anyway based on that I am guessing its mainly down to demand.
I really was a fool to cancel my second PS5 preorder. The unit that I did receive broke on arrival day and Sony refunded me instead of sending a new one (perhaps the Digital Edition was on even shorter supply here in Europe). No PS5 until very later in the year at least :/
They're just not selling. Makes sense I guess - presumably most early adopters are hardcore players who want the big powerful system.
And then you have the PS5 digital at only $100 more, which doesn't help. Gonna be interesting to see if it does take off later on as Microsoft expects.
While true, i think the Pandemic switched some things around. People where crazy in the hope to get "any" Next-Gen console. Gaming expenditure is on an all time high and with everybody being at home, everybody want's to "threat" themselves with something. People cannot spend their money on much more than Multi Media. The incredible demand of PS5 or XSX isn't coming from "Hard Core" Users. It's pretty much everywhere. The PS5 being sold out was one of the highest trending Topic on Social media for weeks here. Newspapers and TV Station got in and reported on it.
Gaming is much much bigger than it was 10 years ago and the Pandemic is completely changing the way people view it. I think the Series S has a different problem ( At least in Europe, since it's sold out in US/UK)
Yeah, same here in Germany. If you really look around you can find Series S without issues. Series X on the other hand is just ridiculous. Still waiting for my second one from october. If there's available stock online it's usually sold out within 30 minutes.
Realistically I just don't see myself getting a new GPU until summer. I'll buy AMD if the price is right, but I honestly see myself going back to Nvidia.
AMD's 6800/6800XT launch left a sour taste in my mouth.
AMD's 6800/6800XT launch left a sour taste in my mouth.
The series s problem for me is it is not worth it as a console coming from the one x and even a modest PC.
I am never buying it but you still cant get it for retail price in brazil.
I wouldnt expect it to be sold out anywhere else though as you say it has problems outside of maybe N.A (U.S, canada, mexico) and the UK which it wouldnt surprise me were the 5 biggest markets for xbox where just being an xbox is good enough to sell even the s.
Managed to get my fiancee a ps5 this week kinda glad I got it seems stock may be an issue rest of the year..
Series S, X, PS5 digital and normal are constantly out of stock anytime I take a gander at the typical stores. Telstra is struggling to restock All Access, I mean they only just restocked the blue controller for their rewards program. Australia is just chomping at the bit on any next-gen console, we seem to give no shits about who we align with just give us next-gen.
Not surprised. Might even go a tad longer imo. It'll be a hot minute before you see stock just sitting around for the masses to buy online.
I mean, take your pick for the series s mate! Been in stock for days.
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This is just imo and Idk if it has any real impact on sales but at $299 with no disc drive the S is a hard sale. Valhalla, Immortals, Yakuza, etc were all $30-$35 off within weeks at retailers.
I think the market going 70/30 for digital on consoles that still have the option of physical games doesn't mean the general consumer is willing to lose access to retail game gifts/used game. I could see this be an issue for XSS in the future especially once Xbox and others start putting out more $70 games.
I could be wrong or maybe it won't have a big impact but I think it could run into that issue.
Same already had scored a 3080 strix. Woke up launch day and said I wanted PS5 also. Was in right place at right time. PS direct came through before people realized it was a thing.