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PS5 webcached site: "Play a back catalog of supported PS4™ games with system update."
- Thread starter Kenzodielocke
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"Sony has issued an update to clarify its stance on backwards compatibility for the PlayStation 5, saying the upcoming console will support an "overwhelming majority" of the 4,000-plus existing PS4 titles. Prior to the update, Sony's Mark Cerny, the system architect for the PS5 who detailed its full hardware specifications in a live-streamed presentation on Wednesday, said the console would support "almost all" of the top 100 PS4 titles."
"Sony says Cerny "provided a snapshot into the Top 100 most-played PS4 titles" simply as demonstration of the company's current backwards compatibility efforts. "We have already tested hundreds of titles and are preparing to test thousands more as we move toward launch," the company says. "We will provide updates on backward compatibility, along with much more PS5 news, in the months ahead."
https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/20/...bility-ps4-games-support-majority-plus-titles
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There would be a need for the best games only anyway, so around 10 to 20.
One thing is clear - a ton of people got confused regardless. I do believe they have to adjust this matter once again in the coming months. Cerny's message wasn't clear enough, sadly, look at MS's approach – I don't see that many people questioning «W8, how the hell this thing will work once XSX is out?». Sony literally need another statement dedicated to BC alone, like «listen everyone, this is how it works, here's the full list of games, etc» .
Well. I get what Cerny was saying now, but it was badly reported or mangled.
Better to wait and see, but I'm not too confident with Sony backwards compatibility.
If they can at least make it compatible with every 1st party game, that would be good already.
If they can at least make it compatible with every 1st party game, that would be good already.
This.
Sony literally said an "overwhelming majority" of the 4000+ library will work on PS5, and they will never say all for lawsuit reasons as people have already said.
And it's like people don't understand how ratios work. The fact that Cerny said the vast majority of the first top 100 games they checked running in PS5 native mode already worked without being touched basically means that the majority of the catalog should as well as long as those games followed the system documentation and what they are likely checking for are outliers such as games that may have used various tricks, or certain peripherals, or perhaps anything that may break by running at faster than the originally programmed framerate, since we know from emulators that some rare games have tied their game systems to them in the past.
And Microsoft basically has said the same thing by pulling back on their everything will work because they too don't want to get sued for that.
Really dude? That's something to get concerned about at this moment in time?
Really?
I'm just pointing out why the OP and other's might be "concerned". I'm not reading too deeply into it, just trying to give insight into why the OP likely made this thread. I don't think it's thread worthy personally, but people are just concluding everything will be peachy.
I'm basing my assumptions on how backwards compat will pan out on Sony's actions this generation. I hope I'm wrong.
I'm not trying to "neg" Sony, I just feel annoyed at how the PS1 Classic launched and the fact that I can't play my PS1 digital games on PS4. I'm just not feeling optimistic about their backwards compat dedication, and this really isn't giving me any reason to be.
Exactly this or that you have to do a mandatory system update at launch. I don't see how anyone can read this as limited BC or a concern when they are mentioning a system update which implies the BC is at a system level.
But then again I didn't understand how anyone jumped to the conclusion only 100 games would be BC at launch but sure enough even the Verge was reporting only 100 BC games at launch.
There seems to be a set of "supported" PS4 games.
Which implies that there is a set of unsupported PS4 games as well.
I wonder how large each set might be.
BC is native.
While using PS5 Boost mode.
Simple to understand:
PS4 mode --> Supported natively
PS4 PRO Boost mode -> Supported natively
PS5 Boost mode -> Might need a firmware update or game patch
Why is it time to be concerned exactly? Because you've arbitrarily added the word "limited" to make it seem like we should be concerned?
Sony hasn't really said much about BC yet so maybe we should all just wait and see? I mean its likely this will all be cleared up by next week.
Sony hasn't really said much about BC yet so maybe we should all just wait and see? I mean its likely this will all be cleared up by next week.
Like always, people are way too "concerned" to see the facts right in front of them. Nothing new really and I'm used to it.
They must have removed the sentence because it's correct.
That means all the other sentences are false, oh shit does the PS5 even exist!
That means all the other sentences are false, oh shit does the PS5 even exist!
They can never say "all" games without an asterisk unless they have tested every game, plus there are always some games that use a weird peripheral that might not work on the new machine.
Someone should change the title to "Time to be confused" as this would reflect better most people's feelings.
They're never going to go promising in black and white that literally every single PS4 game works flawlessly on the PS5. Having a list of supported games makes complete sense, and it's likely that said list will encompass almost the entire library.
Keep in mind that Sony and Cerny were similarly hesitant when it came to the Pro's Boost Mode, initially talking about how the boosted clocks could be a big problem and didn't release it until several months later compete with a warning that it could break games. Turns out, basically everything worked fine with it outside of, like, SOMA and Resident Evil Revelations 2. I forsee the PS5's BC and boosts going similarly, and since the PS5 will be much more popular than the Pro, I could more easily imagine the devs of games with issues doing a dedicated PS5 enhancement patch.
Keep in mind that Sony and Cerny were similarly hesitant when it came to the Pro's Boost Mode, initially talking about how the boosted clocks could be a big problem and didn't release it until several months later compete with a warning that it could break games. Turns out, basically everything worked fine with it outside of, like, SOMA and Resident Evil Revelations 2. I forsee the PS5's BC and boosts going similarly, and since the PS5 will be much more popular than the Pro, I could more easily imagine the devs of games with issues doing a dedicated PS5 enhancement patch.
The product was already officially announced though. It's been announced for over a year. We are just waiting to see games and what the system looks like.
I know that the communication from Sony (or Cerny more specifically) was flawed in that sense, but they already solved this problem by doing that update on the PS Blog, so why the concern? Unless they are literally lying, most of our PS4 games should be playable on the PS5, some with graphics and FPS improvements, and that's it.
That's what it sounds like. Probably updating that list over time as they're able to scale testing.
Thanks. Assuming that's correct, You've said that more clearly than Sony has in two attempts.
Im not sure why this is news though, as Sony/Cerny themselves already confirmed BC is available for the vast majority of popular titles (or something to that effect) ie, not every game will have BC
i swear, if i have to keep my jet noise PS4 around just to play a couple of my favorite games that refuse to function on PS5.... ugh
get it right Sony, and dont listen to the fools who dont think its important for "old" games to work on PS5. Bloodborne, The Last Guardian, Polybius, Skyrim VR, RDR2 etc better work properly.
get it right Sony, and dont listen to the fools who dont think its important for "old" games to work on PS5. Bloodborne, The Last Guardian, Polybius, Skyrim VR, RDR2 etc better work properly.
If when it launches and we still dont have a clue about BC then I'll be concerned. Until then, we still haven't seen the system and many other things.
The website isn't providing any further details than what Sony have already discussed which is pretty clear to me.
The website isn't providing any further details than what Sony have already discussed which is pretty clear to me.
OP, you've got to save this thread so you can rub it in people's faces when bloodborne won't run on the thing
I have no idea how the supply chain works, but if let's say mass production starts today, when is the last time today's consoles would receive a software update? Are they boxed and sealed ASAP, or can the system software be updated in September before launch?
Here's the proper webcached versionSo the OP saw this:
But I see this at the link below:
Huh. What's going on? Maybe they were just editing it or something.
PlayStation®5 | Play Has No Limits | PlayStation
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Bookmark whatever you want, it's on the road to PS5 video, feel free to watch it.
Where does it state 'very limited BC' or 'for the launch period'? Let's just wait for official information to see how many games will actually be ready for back compat at launch (concerns both PS5 and Xbox series X).