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PS5 USB DAC compatibility
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I have a Fiio E10 which is an older but identical version of what you have and it does work on the PS5 but the volume is very low even at max and on high gain setting. For me it not worth using. I'm currently just using the headphone jack on the Dualsense with a portable amp with and a HD598 headphone. Right now I'm getting pretty good results with good enough volume.
I tried it previously with a 58X headphone as well and the volume was too low with the jack. Basically try to avoid using headphones with an impedance higher than 50ohm on the headphone jack. Alternatively it seems people are getting better results with the Soundblaster G6 dac so that might be also worth considering. I'm personally sticking with the Dualsense jack for now until there is better support for a wider range of usb dacs.
Is there a chance DAC support can be improved via a patch?
I have a Fiio E17 portable DAC/AMP which works on PS4 via USB but has the low audio glitch. Max gain makes it fine for easy to drive headphones.
Seems crazy Sony invests such time and effort into audio and then fails at the final step.
I have a Fiio E17 portable DAC/AMP which works on PS4 via USB but has the low audio glitch. Max gain makes it fine for easy to drive headphones.
Seems crazy Sony invests such time and effort into audio and then fails at the final step.
While it's technically possible, I'd say the chance is pretty slim. They couldn't have been unaware of people's issues with the PS4's mediocre support for USB audio, and despite removing the optical port they made no changes for the PS5 in that regard.
I'm gonna keep telling them to fix it on the PS blog, but I don't have much hope, they don't seem to care about this.
Sony uses a forked super old freebsd kernel and doesn't do any sane thing like... build off a Linux kernel let alone from the last decade. This really is embarrassing in 2020. The idea that you'd release a console without UAC2 support when everything supports UAC2 is absolutely lazy.
It is frustrating, as you say they must be aware of the issues, a search of Google shows plenty of complaints.
I want to buy a new DAC/AMP to use with DT1990 Pros, in part to use with a PS5. Looks like I will hold off at the moment.
Is plugging into the DualSense producing better quality than the DualShock?
Thanks,
I have a ps5 and use Sennheiser HD 569´s (low ohm) with the Dualsense jack. The volume is not the problem, i just don't like the sound quality.
the E10 would be a cheap way to get better sound and i could use headphones with higher impedance.
For me the Dualsense audio definitely seems better than the dualshock in terms of both volume level and quality. The dualshock was unusable for me with anything other than earbuds. At the very least I can use my 598 (50ohm) without much trouble on the dualsense. Low impedance headphones look like they work fine. High impedance headphones definitely will struggle. I could not use my 58X with Dualsense as they are 150ohm and the volume was much too low. Your DT1990 Pro will probably also struggle as they are 250ohm.
I would either just use a pair of low impedance headphones and plug those into the Dualsense for now or get a dac that is fully supported with the PS5 but it seems hit and miss with what works and doesn't unfortunately. Dac support is honestly a shitshow on PS5 right now.
Thanks for the reply, yeah no way the DT1990 Pros are going to be usable into the DualSense. I have a set of Philips X1s which are a lot easier to drive. When listening to 3D audio on YouTube I find quality earbuds often present the sound placement better than headphones. Will be interesting to check once I get a PS5.
Lets hope the Dac issue gets sorted, opening up people to use better quality equipment is going to do wonders for 3D audio.
Ugh, unfortunately it's sold out in Japan. And I looked up my TV and no HDMI 2.1 or 120hz support. So I'll pick one up when I can, I guess :)
Thanks again for the tips.
Edit ohhhhhhhhh and people are flipping this shit tooooooo https://www.mercari.com/jp/items/m8...tsYlke7nj0zGV76KwiM_J362QLXV9yHO22ykD4Gyo7yZE
Just to contribute to this thread, since I've had my PS5 a few days now.
The ATOM DAC doesn't work with the PS4 firmware, and in fact that firmware also no longer works with the PS4 itself. JDSLabs have added new firmware (1.4.5) which will hopefully now work. Unfortunately, the old firmware was always a one way street, so if you used that firmware before you're outta luck and won't be able to upgrade. Thankfully, JDS were kind enough to send me a new DAC, no questions asked, so that I could use the new firmware. Downside, if Sony mess around again like they did with the PS4, the DAC won't work on the PS5 as the firmware can't be upgraded.
I've also tested with the Atom amp and the older OL DAC and had the usual problem - very, very quiet audio, to the point it's not really practically usable.
The ATOM DAC doesn't work with the PS4 firmware, and in fact that firmware also no longer works with the PS4 itself. JDSLabs have added new firmware (1.4.5) which will hopefully now work. Unfortunately, the old firmware was always a one way street, so if you used that firmware before you're outta luck and won't be able to upgrade. Thankfully, JDS were kind enough to send me a new DAC, no questions asked, so that I could use the new firmware. Downside, if Sony mess around again like they did with the PS4, the DAC won't work on the PS5 as the firmware can't be upgraded.
I've also tested with the Atom amp and the older OL DAC and had the usual problem - very, very quiet audio, to the point it's not really practically usable.
Sennheiser GSX 1000 works through USB. Volume control on the amp doesn't work though, you have to control the volume through the PS5 UI
Edit** Now I can't get it to work. That's strange. The PS5 recognizes it and I can select it as an audio device but im not getting any audio.
Edit** Now I can't get it to work. That's strange. The PS5 recognizes it and I can select it as an audio device but im not getting any audio.
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I know this won't matter for most, but I'm using a Hegel H120 for my 2 channel desk setup and the internal Hegel DAC works via USB. This was my main concern as I didn't think it would work. Sounds really good too
The PS5 detected the DAC as a headphone out. If that happens and you're on A two channel setup, make sure to go into the settings and turn off 3D audio for headphones.
The PS5 detected the DAC as a headphone out. If that happens and you're on A two channel setup, make sure to go into the settings and turn off 3D audio for headphones.
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Do you also have to raise the volume of your G6 every time you wake your PS5 from rest-mode? It's like the PS5 resets the volume to low every time it resumes.
Interesting. I've had mine connected to the front without issues so far.
I think it's the G6 that resets whenever it is powered down. I also have to increase the volume each time again.
Good point. I've yet to look at the SoundBlaster Command software or try to update the firmware, I hope it's possible to configure a default volume level through that.
Turns out that the Audioengine D1 works IF it's plugged into a rear USB port. I don't have a USB - USB-C adapter on hand but I suspect that the Apple USB-C to 3.5 adapter will probably work as well.
I don't have my PS5 yet but are a pair of Audio-Technica ATH-M30x (47 ohms) going to be perfectly fine with audio out of the DualSense?
Should be fine. Before I switched to a DAC I used my pair of HD599's in the DualSense (50 ohms) and volume level was perfectly fine, louder than on the DS4.
I switched it to the other side, used an optical cable and connected it to my LG Sound Bar... and it still works. I can't get a reading if it's PCM 2.0, but when I set up my Sony MDR-HW700ds head phones tonight... that will give me a reading.
I think that I figured it out and I'm wondering if this won't work for other DACs. When I got home today I plugged my Audioengine D1 into a rear USB port and it no longer worked (but it did this AM). So I unplugged it and powered the PS5 down, plugged the D1 back in and booted up the PS5. As it was booting up I heard the D1 make a clicking sound and it worked after that. I powered the PS5 back down and tried a USB port on the front, same thing. It's as if the DAC needs to go through some sort of initialization and it doesn't occur if the PS5 is already booted up.
Hopefully, this process works for others.
I have a Schiit Modi 3+ and Magni Heresy. The PS5 does not support it via USB. I don't really need it to though, as I also have an LG OLED and I can output all sound through toslink to the Modi. So if Sony never supports this DAC I at least would like them to support 3d audio through HDMI. This would be a pretty easy feature to add actually and would help a lot of people. I contacted PlayStation tech support to request it in a future update and the guy said he would pass it along.
Does anyone know if I plug a pair of headphones or speakers into a USB DAC, will the controller speaker still output sound? I'm using a computer monitor and tried plugging some desktop speakers into the Dualsense, which automatically turns off the controller speaker. Which is a shame given how much the controller speaker adds to the haptics.
Redria Hi! Do you have an USB-C to USB-A adapter? If yes, can you try the Apple 3.5mm dongle with that on a REAR USB port like is stated in this post up there?
Maybe it will work. Thank you and sorry for bothering <3
Well, in the case of ps4, as a casual listener, I can hear the difference betwee plugging my headphone to dualshock 4 and using a DAC. But that's maybe because dualshock 4 audio output is that bad. Supposedly audio output in dualsense is much better in comparison to ds4
It's so weird how the sennheiser GSX 1000 worked the very first time I plugged it into the ps5 but hasn't worked since. The ps5 still recognizes it, but there's no audio.
I'm keen to check this out, because yes, plugging headphones into the DS4's aux jack was a massive trade off in sound quality for the sake of convenience. The DualSense kind of has to have decent sound, since regular wireless Bluetooth headphones can't pair with the PS5, and Tempest audio can only be enjoyed via headphones.
Which reminds me, I need to check the headphones thread to find out what the best ~$50 wired earbuds are in 2020.
So, this finally arrived today, though I ordered it from Amazon US. Seems like it almost got lost lmao
Anyway, hooked it up, and it worked. Now my PS5 is connected via optical to my DAC/Amp and it's much louder than using the USB directly.
But it's not as loud as I hoped it'd be, I think my direct optical connection the PS4 was louder. It's a big improvement though so I can't complain too much right now.
Thanks sifi36 !
BTW, US peeps, that DAC is $10 off right now on Amazon.
You're welcome, glad you've managed to sort it out. The volume you're experiencing is interesting, as I could have sworn mine was marginally louder than my PC via USB, I wonder if there's a cheaper solution around that does away with that devices DAC, amp and analogue outputs. Basically a USB to optical converter with no other frills.
Try a different USB cable as well if your problem persists. Both my PS4 and PS5 wouldn't recognize G6 until I tried 2 different cables. My guess is some cables can't provide enough power for the device to work properly.
The exclusion of optical ports this generation is a huge disappointment. 3 steps forward one step back.
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So is the astro mixamp for ps4 useless for the ps5?
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So is the astro mixamp for ps4 useless for the ps5?
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Cambridge Audio's DacMagic Plus works great on PS4 so I guess (and hope) it works on PS5 also. Gonna edit this post for confirmation when I finally get my hands on this near mythical console...
Edit: So it turns out PS5 is not a myth after all! DacMagic Plus is working great so far, absolute no problems at all.
Edit: So it turns out PS5 is not a myth after all! DacMagic Plus is working great so far, absolute no problems at all.
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Does anyone have thoughts on the Razer BlackShark v2 (or pro)? It is supposed to be compatible with the PS5. $100 wired, 179 wireless
This is great! Might be my easy solution to using my Schiit stack. Can either of you check to see if 3D audio still works and isn't grayed out in the options?
Sounds pretty interesting!
Does this setup introduce any additional audio delay? If I understand this correctly this 'dac' doesn't do any digital -> analogue conversion in this particular setup and just sends the digital audio stream to the optical out, acting like a passthrough? Meaning, the only digital to analogue conversion happens where you want it to happen, in your actual dac down your audio chain.
I might want to get one of these to feed my ADI-2 DAC FS for 3d audio!
Yeah, I'd like to know this as well!
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Yes 3D audio works, and is far better without the compression of wireless through the Dualsense.
I haven't noticed any delay, though a more scientific test might be needed to establish whether or not this is the case. Happy to test this if someone knows of a good way to do so.
Bought one! So, I wonder if this also works with the XsX. Because I'd love to be able to get second one and do coax to my schiit stack and only have to hit the switch on it to swap between PC/PS5/XsX.
Neither the Xbox One or Series consoles support USB audio out, except for specifically licensed devices. The flaky UAC support on PS5 is pretty naff, no optical or generic USB on XBox is just silly. Not a great situation on either!
3D audio as an option is available.
Personally, though, I can't decide if I set it up right or not. None of the available options sound quite as good to me as it has been described online.
I haven't noticed a delay either.
I don't have an XsX, but a Google search tells me it doesn't support USB DACs. Owners here should confirm, though.
I'm trying to figure this out here..
The ones you two bought released in 2013.. and doesn't support 24bit...
The one I bought and posted a few pages back supports 24bit audio.. and was released in 2019.
So could your lower volume be attributed to that?
Also does anyone know if using the Type C port instead could be beneficial? I'll try it myself tomorrow when I get back from work.
But right now I have my DAC connected to the Hi-Speed port that's used for charging the DualSense. I might try to plug it in the back to one of the SuperSpeed USB ports as well.
Damn this is disappointing. It was bad enough that the PS4 didn't support UAC2. Sony plz.
Once I get a non-scalper price PS5, might have to get a JDS Labs DAC since they can flash the firmware to be PS5 compatible.
Once I get a non-scalper price PS5, might have to get a JDS Labs DAC since they can flash the firmware to be PS5 compatible.
Think I posted in another thread but I got the USB DAC of the HyperX Cloud 2s to work with my X2s and some HD400S so for now that's my solution to get 3D audio until Sony supports UAC2.
Not going to buy another DAC but might consider a USB to Optical convertor that fully works. Got room in my optical splitter!
ps3ud0 8)
Not going to buy another DAC but might consider a USB to Optical convertor that fully works. Got room in my optical splitter!
ps3ud0 8)
I went ahead and ordered the creative sound blasterx G6 dac/mixamp for my Senn. Pc37x . PS5 recognizes it. Usb to analog seems to be the simplest solution.