Even the faster gen 3 drives are hot enough to warrant a heatsink and good airflow.
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PS5 SSD Storage Upgrade Is Coming This Summer
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Unless you add some pads there's no way that cover touches ssd. Also there is reason why heatsinks are made from aluminum or copper.
even the ones that have chunky heat sinks on PC, I imagine we'll see custom/accessory heatsinks suited to the PS5 space
If what people in this thread are saying about heat are true, what can I expect from a expansion perspective? Is this negative or neutral news?
So is space an issue for potential drives? I've never handled one of these in person so IDK how to scale them.
Only if it were that simple. Its not just about meeting or exceeding the raw throughput spec.
If it were that simple we would have had external SSD support at launch. Something, something priority levels.
Same here. My PS5 is barely audible 95% of the time.
A most likely very slight increase in rpm at some points for having expanded storage that is super fast and not sticking out in any way? Sure.
Good point about where the extra SSD is located.
Another point in regards to an extra SSD/NVMEdrive for the PS5 is that on the PS5 motherboard, theres 6 SSD chips (3 on each side), and there is some space in between them. On a NVME-drive, these chips are likely a bit closer together, which might produce a bit more heat due to that. I'm very curious to see how much more noisy a PS5 will potentially be due to inserting an extra SSD. Personally, i'm not expecting that much more noise to be honest, but i could see it being a bit louder.
Looking at NVME-drives with similar read/write speed for PC, its around $230 - $250 for 1TB. I expecting it to be the same for PS5 considering that these drives are the same that PCs uses. I'm curious how things will be distributed though. I mean, will each manufacturer mark their drives as "PS5 compatible" and/or will Sony have a list on their website showing which NVME drive that is fast enough and can be used on a PS5.
EDIT: Or as someone else mentioned earlier in the thread, maybe even faster NVME-disks are needed for the PS5 due to how the overall system architecture is built. If so, then the prices might be higher.
I'm shocked that people complain about PS5 noises. Did I just get lucky with mine since it's completely silent? My PS4 base and PS4 PRO sure as hell weren't any silent.
I would assume its a whitelist. Up to Sony whether they implement a check in software or not. I would think they would especially if they are concerned with cooling. I would think therefore that people's assumptions about prices dropping would be a pipe dream since 'PS5 compatible' would be a badge that would keep prices steady
1/3 chance of getting a noisy fan. Coil whine noise is a crapshoot.
I'm shocked about the fan complaining.
I had no idea about this lottery fan thing. Did I finally got the good one? I hope that my PS5 never breaks then or else when I trade it I could get the more noisy fan.
This is from an interview before launch in October, there is a section about cooling additional SSDs
So, definitely keep the cover installed, it's there for a reason.
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Yeah, i don't think there's anything to worry about really(so far)
Fan increasing speed could also mean just a small increase in RPM as they are a good size.
Good for the people that want to do it but so far I haven't had any issues with my storage.
*knocks on wood*
*knocks on wood*
I hope there's support for this beast right here:
shop.westerndigital.com
WD_BLACK™ SN850 NVMe™ SSD PCIe® Gen4 for PC or Laptop | Western Digital | Western Digital Store
Long load times are obsolete with next-gen PCIe® Gen4 technology. Arm your system with RGB lighting, an optional heatsink model, and up to 2TB1 capacity.
You're probably just a reasonable person. If my room is completely silent (central air is not running), game is paused and I stick my head into the furniture I hear something. My furniture is open on all sides (basically two big shelves with drawers below). I assume if the PS5 was boxed in on all sides except the front it would run hotter and project that sound outwards at a higher volume. Maybe we're both lucky.
You are describing as the ideal furniture that basically no one has and your assumption is for furniture that most people has as TV stands
I would say I had a cursory look. I skipped comments. Yes I missed his about the multiple types of fans and didn't know it until now. No need for you to jump in, "defend the hive", what unwarranted wank.
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What kind of performance are they even guaranteeing on the M.2 drive? I mean, Ratchet & Clank seems to use the streaming of the on-board drive to a very large extent, but the m.2 drive won't have the same advantage of the I/O tweaks that the on-board storage has, right? Can they even guarantee all games will work directly off the bog-standard PCIe gen4 M.2 drive?
I wouldn't use this drive as things stand in a PS4 right now. It literally runs the hottest out of all the mainstream PCIE4 drives Unless WD tweaks it's firmware, I would avoid it for the console.I hope there's support for this beast right here:
WD_BLACK™ SN850 NVMe™ SSD PCIe® Gen4 for PC or Laptop | Western Digital | Western Digital Store
Long load times are obsolete with next-gen PCIe® Gen4 technology. Arm your system with RGB lighting, an optional heatsink model, and up to 2TB1 capacity.
The drive is fantastic in a big PC with a big heatsink and bunch of fans blowing air across. In a tiny enclosed space of PS5 without a fan blowing air directly at it and not much room for a heatsink....
I doubt they whitelist anything to beastly for PS5, unless they announce some external adapter cable for the drive bay or something.
That's why Sony are going to produce a list of approved drives that meet spec.
A lot of people in this thread also seem to not realise why putting an extra 70c of heat into your console requires extra cooling.
They could also potentially work with WD (and other vendors) so if the drive controller detects specifically PS5, it would operate in different performance envelope.
This is what I'd want. Whack a big enough external drive and I'd accept slo-mo-ish transfers to the internal SSD for the games I'm playing.
Mark Cerny covered this in his famous PS5 talk back in March of 2020. The internal expansion SSD's will need to be faster than the PS5 internal SSD to overcome the fact that they don't support as many priority levels as the PS5. They also have to physically fit, and not be doing weird stuff (like weird filesystem shenanigans etc.). Sony will test them and release a list of compatible drives.
These M2 drives are like $300 CAD for a Tb, yeah would rather just get the cold storage transfer option.
I absolutely get that 'putting an extra 70°C of heat into your console' is going to require lots of extra cooling!
Is that what happens when I add an SSD into the PS5's expansion bay?
User warned: hostility, accusations of shilling
Seriously ya'll getting paid for this? because I want some of it too then.
Thanks, hadn't hear what Cerny had said on the matter.
The internal SSD is a nice idea, but Sony should just add the option for quick and easy cold storage.
Just let folks buy a USB 3.1 2TB SSD.
Copying an entire game to a drive like that should only take between one and five minutes.
That'd help so much more people than including the option for drive that still come at a pretty huge $ / GB premium.
Just let folks buy a USB 3.1 2TB SSD.
Copying an entire game to a drive like that should only take between one and five minutes.
That'd help so much more people than including the option for drive that still come at a pretty huge $ / GB premium.
Yeah, i don't know how costly the top end stuff is though, people with the dough probably don't care about wasted performance anyway. but i'm going to be on the "budget" (lol) end i think.
People are guessing it's going to be noisy or the fan is going to be going like the clappers.
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What does being reasonable have to do with it? My PS5 and XSX are sitting right next to one another. The XSX isn't whisper quiet. It's dead silent unless I put my ear up to it and then I can hear the whir of the fan a little. Every single game on the PS5 causes the fan to immediately kick up to a level that is audible where I sit 10 feet away. It's not annoying, but it's very noticeable. What is annoying though is the accompanying coil whine that occurs on pretty much every game made for or optimized for the PS5. Reason has nothing to do with it.
This is cool, and it would be in addition to the existing storage right? So 500GB ssd would bring it something just over 1TBish?
id rather do a USB SSD but idk if that's possible
id rather do a USB SSD but idk if that's possible
I have a m.2 in an enclosure and that sucker gets hot. If this firmware change allows for cold storage, I'm set. I'll just move stuff over.
You are putting in a device that can run between 50 and 90 degrees celsius. PCIE drives can generate a ton of heat. If you have proper cooking and preferably a heatsink, it's fine, but the drive space in a PS4 is enclosed without direct air blowing across from it and it's small so larger heatsinks won't work.
Pretty much, m.2 drives run hot. It's the downside to the speed they can hit. 70c is an example but it's a fairly common number.
The Samsung one in my PC is under a heatsink on the motherboard and hits 55-60 and stays there most of the time.
Yes, unlike the PS4, this adds to what you already have. And no, USB SSDs will never work for playing PS5 games from. The hope though is that Sony will stop being dicks and finally let us use the USB drives to store PS5 games we're not currently playing.
I don't think the fans will be that much faster just for SSD, but they had already planned future updates to the software / firmware in regards to cooling.
Heck, even a demanding game like R&C might require some new adjustments to fan.
For what its worth, I've been around 4 different PS5s so far and all of them have been quiet. Might also just be lucky, I guess?
Less so with the DualSense though (one had drift, got repaired... and then my pack-in controller has a mushy X button -_- )
Heck, even a demanding game like R&C might require some new adjustments to fan.
Uh, I think claiming/inferring someone is astroturfing is a bannable offense. Better to just report if you really believe it to be the case.
For what its worth, I've been around 4 different PS5s so far and all of them have been quiet. Might also just be lucky, I guess?
Less so with the DualSense though (one had drift, got repaired... and then my pack-in controller has a mushy X button -_- )