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PS5 SSD Storage Upgrade Is Coming This Summer
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Yeah, my PS5 fan is similar to that at times. The prospect of it being louder and more whirry with an M2 added doesn't exactly fill me with joy.
They're unlocking the fan speed precisely because the fan needs to spin faster to keep the SSD properly cooled. Will it run at the higher speed all the time is a different story and yet to be determined.
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Here is the official English version of the Bloomberg article.
Sony to Open PlayStation 5 for Storage Upgrades in Summer
Sony Corp. is preparing to open up its PlayStation 5 for internal storage upgrades this summer, lifting a bottleneck that prevents gamers from having more than a few marquee games on their console at one time, people briefed on the plan said.www.bloomberg.com
It doesn't say the fans will run faster, only that the update will unlock higher speeds.
Thanks. Edited the OP.
At the very least Sony should sort out the cold storage issue. They talked about it 3 months ago, yet still nothing.
There's no getting around the extra heat that a high-performance SSD puts out. But they could solve the cold storage issue way, WAY sooner with a software fix.
There's no getting around the extra heat that a high-performance SSD puts out. But they could solve the cold storage issue way, WAY sooner with a software fix.
They over-designed this system and overlooked / didn't do anything about the airflow to the expanded internal SSD? Man...
Heatsinks will be required for whatever SSD goes in that slot. Gen4 NVMes put out way too much heat when running at full throughput to be ambiently cooled.
I guess it is due to the fact, that the slot is too small to fit a m.2 SSD with heatsink? So they have to increase fan speed to cool the SSD drive enough, so it doesn't automatically slow down due to getting too hot?
That heatsink doesn't seem to be adding much width to the drive. It would probably fit.
Sony design nice looking PlayStation hardware but the engineering of them is terrible IMO.
My PS5 already has noticeable coil whine. I'm not exactly wanting to make this thing any noisier than it already is.
My PS5 already has noticeable coil whine. I'm not exactly wanting to make this thing any noisier than it already is.
I guess it is due to the fact, that the slot is too small to fit a m.2 SSD with heatsink? So they have to increase fan speed to cool the SSD drive enough, so it doesn't automatically slow down due to getting too hot?
It's not just that the SSD might get too hot, it's that the SSD generates added heat which then distributes to the rest of the console - and therefore needs to extract that added heat.
You're literally putting something inside the chassis which adds additional heat.
This isn't an issue for XSX as the proprietary SSD sits on the outside of the console so doesn't affect internal temperatures. But even those get ridiculously hot, which gives an idea of the challenge faced.
Here is a thermal throttling test of the WD SN850 non-heatsink version with and without a fan. The SSD did not run slower without a fan than with a fan running in their setup during write speed of 5GB/s, even at 85C vs 60C.
You don't need to speculate and fear-monger.
From the very page you linked:Here is a thermal throttling test of the WD SN850 non-heatsink version with and without a fan. The SSD did not run slower without a fan than with a fan running in their setup during write speed of 5GB/s, even at 85C vs 60C.
You don't need to speculate and fear-monger.
Good to know that specific model has a high thermal tolerance, others might not. You don't have to be such a dick, stating facts is not fear mongering.
Stating that people will be disgruntled this summer based on your speculation is not a fact. You don't need to speculate.
Ok, fair point! That was totally speculation! I accept that and apologise for that on my part.😁
but we both know you weren't just referring to that when you posted graphs of an SSD review of how heat impacts its speed.
Isn't the cold storage an easy fix. Not sure why they are taking so long to sort this.
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Indeed, probably not a good idea to just pick one model out of the authorized list
Feels like the title should be updated to include something about the fan speed increase to compensate for the storage as well
What are the temps when *reading* from the device? Writing huge amounts of data to the storage medium is something that realistically won't happen that frequently.Here is a thermal throttling test of the WD SN850 non-heatsink version with and without a fan. The SSD did not run slower without a fan than with a fan running in their setup during write speed of 5GB/s, even at 85C vs 60C.
You don't need to speculate and fear-monger.
That's quite the trade off for more space.....I'll wait for reviews and impressions before jumping in. My Series X has these issues solved so I'll just buy 3rd party games there for now.
You could click the link and find out the temp during reads is lower.
thinking back to the xbox launch when someone took the expansion card out and the metal part was hot to the touch causing this place to have a mild breakdown about overheating consoles
There seems to be a bit of a rush to reach conclusions based on minimal information.
"Adding an expansion SSD makes the console louder!" may turn out to be true. "RROD v2, better hire lawyers!" might be jumping the gun a bit?
There's no shame in waiting for more information before drawing a conclusion. No prizes for being first with a hot take.
"Adding an expansion SSD makes the console louder!" may turn out to be true. "RROD v2, better hire lawyers!" might be jumping the gun a bit?
There's no shame in waiting for more information before drawing a conclusion. No prizes for being first with a hot take.
Proprietary memory cards aren't the smarter solution, they're just a different option. An option that fleeces consumers for money. Sony stupidly implementing consumer m.2 SSDs doesn't mean Microsoft going back to memory cards (that likely just have m.2's inside of them anyway) is the smart move.
Slap a thermal pad on the SSD inside of a PS5 and call it a day.
Not sure anyone here has jumped into "RROD v2, better hire the lawyers" territory, unless I missed a super spicy take?
The fan speed is going to increase if you slap in an SSD, that's clear, there's no other reason to mention it in the same breath as the SSD expansion otherwise.
The PS5 is already suffering from some units being noisy, one of culprits of which is the fan noise (mine's like this). It's not unrealistic for people to be a little unhappy that based on what we've been told to assume that fan speed is going to increase and for some that will make their PS5 even noisier.
That heat still needs to go somewhere from said pad and most of the cases it's into the case of the system => You are still getting loud-er fan because they need push more heat out of the case.
You're going to get more options in the future for Xbox just like PlayStation. Xbox just planned to have an option at launch.
I think the PS5 solution will be super easy as well, and just work too. I assume that its just to insert the extra SSD and thats basically it (it probably need to be formated by the PS5 first). Or do you mean in regards to produce extra fan noise? But maybe Sony could have gone with a similar solution like Microsoft have done. Since Microsoft's solution have the some of the extra storage on the outside of the console, then some of the heat is being getting rid off directly outside of the console.
By the way, when running on an extra SSD, wouldnt that take some heat away from the motherboard itself, because then the game isnt running from the SSD chips on the motherboard itself? Maybe it wont make the console itself that much hotter overall. But time will tell how much extra fan noise there potentially will be. PS5's SSD is about twice as fast compared to the Xbox Series X|S, and i assume that this higher speed produces more heat, and being all internal on the PS5, it shall be interesting to see how things will be.
PS5 only shipped with 600GB likely due to keeping the cost down and to be able to have a launch price starting from $399. I agree that a cold storage solution should get here sooner rather than later.
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Not for the console, just the card, which is the ideal tradeoff. PS5 seems to be impact in this case, Series cards come with a heatsink and maintains peak speeds without impacting console heat perf.
Yeah, I don't remember reviews mentioning a different console behaviour when the expansion card was connected