It's possible, but would Zhuge know enough about that to include it in his projection? That's a pretty big assumption.
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PS5 Speculation |OT12| - Aw hell, Transistor's running this again?
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Infact, you are right. 12tf fir both would be amazing. Just let peeps choose the one they want with near identical performance.
Hyped for tomorrow.
It would be super annoying. It's annoying enough as it is to always buy two relatively similar consoles just to play a hand full of exclusives, if they were identical it would feel like a waste.
It has to be close, but not identical. Difference fuels competition and gives them incentive to try to do better next time.
The best case scenario is both being very close to one another, with one having slightly better CPU or RAM, other with some GPU advantage and etc.
he wouldn't need to if he's hearing the BOM and not the individual components and building his own BOM.
I think the things some devs are excited about is the SSD. I know that's what I'm most excited about.
I agree. There will be pros and cons of each console. Just like this gen.
Of course he did, a Feb reveal was planned. Klee was right.
GDC presentation content being included in the reveal basically means he will at some point get down to some brass tacks on things. You'll likely hear concrete numbers in the stream itself as well as in a whitepaper sent to Wired (probably) after the fact.
Why such a large range for XSX then if he's not pricing components individually?
That alone wouldn't explain the gulf that MS has. And with them announcing a 1TB SSD and only 16GB RAM, there's not much room for Sony to reduce on the next two biggest items.
This claim is absolute nonsense and I've no idea why people keep repeating it. It was only ever planned in the headcanon people have invented for themselves.
We've had Jason and others claim gdc was always planned and had never heard of February - now who's more likely to know the truth?
If Cerny was doing a deepdive at GDC, then the console would have had to unveiled earlier.
Klee been knew. Klee been knew.
You might be right, I was mixing up whatever he said with the Bloomberg article. Can you link to Zhuge's comments? google search came up empty other than a Dec tweet.
I guess he gets tired of being a target for extreme fanboys, so I get his point.
But I also agree with you: performance metrics are relevant, we are talking about computer devices that should endure years and years, and the better their capabilities now, the longer you should expect them to remain viable.
Based on everything I've seen on Twitter and ResetEra, no, most people are not educated enough to understand that GPU teraflops aren't the only point of comparison that one can use to gauge console power. Sony and Microsoft's marketing over the years has created this beast, of course, so they're entirely to blame. But console warriors are rabid and irrational. And boring -- did I mention boring?
I'm no technical expert, but that's why I ask endless questions of people who are, and I've been told several times that there are all sorts of efficiencies and pipelines and other aspects of the console that can make a huge difference, or result in many of those processing units going unused. Drivers, APIs, tools, and other aspects of the hardware that I know very little about.
I have no idea what the PlayStation 5's teraflops number is, but I do know that, as I've been saying for quite some time now, both consoles are extremely powerful and will do things that that aren't possible in this generation thanks in large part to their CPUs and SSDs.
To me Zhuge range was to big the first time he say something about BOM .
In the end he say they close in BOM but i not certain how much that can tell us.
To bad that Zomb not here he did BOM cost for PS4 and it was almost a match .
Finally!! This was some great news to wake up to. With all the comments from devs on PS5, I'm expecting some great stuff.
And most importantly, Github will more than likely be completely dead so people can stop losing their minds
And most importantly, Github will more than likely be completely dead so people can stop losing their minds
Can you say that both consoles are very close performance-wise?
I agree the back and forth between the fervent fanboys is annoying. I just really enjoy console launch years and the technical talk that goes on with it. It's super interesting to see new developments in gaming that will power our experiences for years to come. Ray Tracing. Mesh Shaders. Memory compression techniques. These hardware and software engineers are wizards and it's amazing to see what they come up with.
You might be head of marketing somewhere, but your response makes it clear you have to have contingency plans.
And why one person can never be responsible for marketing.
Essentially you whole argument stands on a premise that xbox has somehow cracked the premium market and that playstation is the mass market cheaper brand.
You fail to consider;
Most of those 50 million xboxes are actually weaker than the 100 million ps4s on the marker
Xbox is also cheaper at this point and has been so since 2015
Premium ps4 pro has sold more that premium xbox
Marketing is never set in stone and you can come into a new generation with such an unchanging attitude. It always has to adapt and be more flexible.
Just a 2nd year marketing and advertising undergrad.
Did Cerny infiltrate the Xbox camp and steal their blueprint?
Folks still tagging you, huh. lol
Thanks for any insight, tidbit of info you could bring us. And you were smart to stay away from the speculation thread.
God, just leave it. You'll know more tomorrow... TOMORROW for crying out loud!
Doesn't sound like he knows the BOM, nor do his sources. Sounds like a lot of estimations and guess work, educated as they may be.
And as I've said before, he or even the sources could be basing everything off the $400/$500 assumptions for what PS5 and XSX are going to be priced at for retail.
Ok, yes, but having more teraflops is good, the same as more Ram is good or higher clocks are good. So not that a metric number that is used to weigh things becomes suddenly irrelevant.
Well there is lockhart and that suppose to do everything next gen can do but at lower res and suppose to be 4TF .
So in a way i can understand how some will want to know a TF number .
Since saying they can do new things thanks to the SSD and CPU could mean a low power GPU for some.
If both consoles close it does take some of the hardware aspect out of which system to buy so that would be nice.
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Brave man coming in here.
I just have one question, if you'll indulge me.
Why do you hate yourself?
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