So I was off by three days, wonderful haha
Microsoft revealed most of their specs before yesterday though. I don't buy it.
Microsoft revealed most of their specs before yesterday though. I don't buy it.
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PS5 Speculation |OT12| - Aw hell, Transistor's running this again?
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I think the XSX die size bodes quite well for gigantic Navi.
If they really have a 505mm2 GPU at the high end, it's gonna pack a lot of CUs, and maybe even clock better than expected.
You think a deep dive into the PS5's system architecture from Mark Cerny himself will not result in specs? https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/1239884910812450816
Indeed but their plan was to announce this at GDC and this was their roadmap.
Things changed, GDC was cancelled and in the meantime your main competitor has announced eveything yesterday.
Under these circumstances you need to adapt and change your original plan and you need to do it in a way that puts your product in the best light. I think the point is just that this decision to go one day after their competition is a sign of confidence otherwise knowing the new variables they would have rescheduled things differently, that is all.
Congrats to MonsterMech, AndyD, ShadowKingpin
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Someone tell him Shader Engines and Shader Arrays are different things with very specific meanings.
I don't fully agree. The GDC announcement was not just about reaching out to the greater market, but also developers large and small, who are also now waiting on some of the information you were going to tell them, as perhaps some of their plans rest on that. Sony pivoting to what they are going to do now kills two birds with one stone: gives the developers the information they would have gotten at GDC at the time they would have gotten the info anyways while also reaching out to the greater consumer market and giving them new info as well.
I actually feel like their pivot is causing a nice bit of serendipity for them, and I feel the same about the Xbox announcement yesterday as well. It would make no sense to schedule a whole bunch of calls or conference calls with these developers at this point since the chance of someone leaking said call goes up exponentially. Might as well just announce yourself to everyone and unveil things the way you want to.
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Samsung and Intel have the best consumer performance but Kingston, which HyperX is part of, provides very affordable SSDs for their performance. It seems HyperX makes their highest performing SSDs though.
I think that arch presentation two days after full xsx specs unveail is sign of confidence... :)
The thing I'm least happy about is that Mark Cerny is not very exciting to listen to. The audience he's usually rolled out for is the development one, and his delivery is pretty dry.
Or, they have to get this out ahead of the GDC events next week where these technologies and specs will be discussed openly.
He's mixing up a bunch of stuff, seems confused. Memory controllers aren't bound to the SAs, dunno where he got that from.
I'm not hedging any bets on full specs like MS laid out yesterday, they may give vague numbers like MS did for a while with 'double of power of X'.
Like I said, it's better to keep expectations in check, after all this is a GDC talk. If it was a dedicated PS5 event, I'd be signing a different tune. Doesn't hurt to be bit skeptical at times, it bodes well for when you get more :)
He can be as dry as he wants, as long as he delivers them juicy specs haha
I want accurate information not a used car salesman personally but different strokes for different folks
Deep dive is the words they are using not me lol but hey you keep your expectations low
Gotcha...I guess we need to stop posting his tweets here.
"Clumps" is an adjective i would use to describe that thread.
It's the complete opposite for me. Mark Cerny is the reason why I understand people who are into ASMR.
I could listen to him talk about specs I don't understand for hours.
All jokes aside: Who is going to enjoy the deep dive from the comfort of their bathtub tomorrow?
I think his delivery is lovely.
"deep dive" and vague don't really go in hand. Sure, I hear ya though. It seems unnecessary to think they won't go further into the tech since they are essentially saying they will but yeah.
LMAO. this is hilarious. man console warriors really upped their game.
Yeah, i can't be doing with it either, but hopefully what he's selling is good enough to stay awake for.
Tomorrow is going to be a feast for sure.
- Insiders might be redeemed
- Fake insiders might be called out
- Team GitHub might have to eat a truck-load of crow
- Team Anti-GitHub might have to take the L
Definitely, this plus MS having their info dump and associated DF media are way too likely to be coincidence. GDC would have been the last point either side could reveal stuff on their own terms instead of it leaking, so it's no surprise that the timing is what it is.
Tbf they are the audience who would probably benefit from a "PS5 deep dive" the most
Thank gawd. These 12 OTs were definitely a ride... but I'm definitely ready for the "nothing is confirmed" phase to be over. We can finally move on to developers showing their games etc.
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At least one side is going to go silent and the argument fade away after a bit of gloating.
Well, playstation japan just twitted that what they are showing tomorrow was already planned, it was their GDC conference that got cancelled
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I'm expecting alot of secret sauce stuff if the PS5 ends up being significantly weaker. Pretty sure there's going to be plenty to talk about either way.
We may have to speculate about actual video games for once. Makes the blood run cold.
In retrospect your avatar is not really all that bad
Thanks for your input as someone in marketing, Thanatos
I think a lot of people on here see the marketing and initial plans as a tug of war, and that the "core audience" you spoke of are VERY easily swayed over to competitors over small technicalities. Would you say any of that has any merit, and if so, do the console makers consider that with their initial reveals and marketing plans?
IE: "make sure we hold onto our core and don't let them get wooed by the other console."
I think a lot of people on here see the marketing and initial plans as a tug of war, and that the "core audience" you spoke of are VERY easily swayed over to competitors over small technicalities. Would you say any of that has any merit, and if so, do the console makers consider that with their initial reveals and marketing plans?
IE: "make sure we hold onto our core and don't let them get wooed by the other console."
This dude is just copying what a bunch of us have been speculating as the GPU layout for PS5 due to the unique BC solution:
3 Shader Engines * 10 Workgroups each (via 2 Shader Arrays) * 2 CUs each = 60 CUs total (54 active: 2 disabled per Shader Engine)
Yeah that would be like belly flopping the toddlers side of the swimming pull. A deep flop into the concrete floor. 1 terror flop
Why isn't there a thread on the tweet? I wouldn't have known if I hadnt randomly come to this thread
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