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How hyped are you?

  • A little hyped

    Votes: 98 15.7%
  • A lot of hyped

    Votes: 50 8.0%
  • WALNUUUUUTSSSSS

    Votes: 222 35.5%
  • Hyped enough to eat this whole bag of walnuts

    Votes: 63 10.1%
  • Hyped enough to bite this moose

    Votes: 37 5.9%
  • Hyped enough to scramble a dozen eggs

    Votes: 39 6.2%
  • Hyped enough to be even more hyped, like, cyclical or something

    Votes: 116 18.6%

  • Total voters
    625
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Gay Bowser

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Oct 30, 2017
17,598
Let's see if they reveal the console design altogether, unlike the last time with PS4.

If they didn't reveal it at a PS Meeting, I think it's even less likely that they'd reveal it at an (intended) GDC session that was all about a "deep dive" into the PS5's system architecture.

I am not expecting this to be the big reveal or media blowout for the machine, and I caution Era against assuming it will be as well.
 

BreakAtmo

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Nov 12, 2017
12,822
Australia
If they didn't reveal it at a PS Meeting, I think it's even less likely that they'd reveal it at an (intended) GDC session that was all about a "deep dive" into the PS5's system architecture.

I am not expecting this to be the big reveal or media blowout for the machine, and I caution Era against assuming it will be as well.

I think most people get it. It's a system architecture deep dive, we're unlikely to see actual games. But the biggest fights have been over the tech specs, so this will still be a relief.
 

sncvsrtoip

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Apr 18, 2019
2,773
So maybe quick recap, whats your tf expectations for ps5 ? ;) I was 9.2tf team way before github leak but after Klee info I will be dissapointed tomorrow if it nos something around 12tf as xsx
 

PJV3

Member
Oct 25, 2017
25,676
London
"either full spec reveal (CPU / GPU / RAM / etc) or showing the actual console (think Series X reveal) must happen. Not just a shadow or some shit. I mean showing the whole damn thing."
 

BreakAtmo

Member
Nov 12, 2017
12,822
Australia
In the past thread Ive learned that native 4K is a waste of recources and we should implement good CB.

Well, checkerboard isn't the only option. Personally, I think that Insomniac's dynamic resolution plus temporal injection would probably be the best option (the latest DLSS is better but requires specific tensor core hardware).
 

Dust

C H A O S
Member
Oct 25, 2017
32,149
Apparently this is just the GDC scheduled presentation, not reactionary.

Anyway, a lot of people tomorrow will don the clown make up.
 

Erebus

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Oct 29, 2017
556
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If they didn't reveal it at a PS Meeting, I think it's even less likely that they'd reveal it at an (intended) GDC session that was all about a "deep dive" into the PS5's system architecture.

I am not expecting this to be the big reveal or media blowout for the machine, and I caution Era against assuming it will be as well.
Maybe they'll rethink it after yesterday's Xbox coverage on the media. I mean I don't see the point of not showing the design when we've seen the Xbox one for quite some time now.
 

Gay Bowser

Member
Oct 30, 2017
17,598
I think most people get it. It's a system architecture deep dive, we're unlikely to see actual games. But the biggest fights have been over the tech specs, so this will still be a relief.

Oh for sure; I'm eager to learn more about the system architecture, as we all are in this thread.

I can already tell there's going to be a good ol' era backlash if this isn't the big reveal people are hoping for in other threads, though.
 

Psyrgery

Member
Nov 7, 2017
1,744
Oh, you better believe I'm working.
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CelestialAtom

Mambo Number PS5
Member
Oct 26, 2017
6,037
If they didn't reveal it at a PS Meeting, I think it's even less likely that they'd reveal it at an (intended) GDC session that was all about a "deep dive" into the PS5's system architecture.

I am not expecting this to be the big reveal or media blowout for the machine, and I caution Era against assuming it will be as well.

I fully believe the specs will be revealed, but maybe not the console itself. Sony would receive an immense amount of backlash if they didn't reveal the specs after Microsoft's info dump yesterday.
 

xiaoming10086

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Mar 1, 2020
16
Tomorrow:
Talk about a lot of bullshit things like controlers -------- below 10 tf.
Say that the ps5 is "powerful" -------- slightly below 12tf.
Straight forward reveal the TF number -------- well I guess it's better than series X then.

3 situations I guess that coule happen
 

MrKlaw

Member
Oct 25, 2017
33,037
I hope they show the box. I think they've said before that they made a mistake not showing the box at the feb event

even if this is a recording of their planned GDC session, if this wasn't previously scheduled then the timing is interesting.
 

RedRum

Newbie Paper Plane Pilot
Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,364
I hope this is the full reveal. This needs to be the full reveal. After the logo thing, Sony needs to come out with it.
 

anexanhume

Member
Oct 25, 2017
12,912
Maryland
I'm not sure I can agree with you. The GitHub tests show a real, measured memory bandiwdth of 531.2GB/s. This is higher than the theoretical maximum achievable with 16gbps modules on a 256-bit bus. It requires 18gbps RAM (likely underclocked some, but still above 16).
Look at much lower volume graphics cards. Even the enthusiast levels aren't pushing those speeds. It just seems impractical. And it could be experimental given a non final configuration.
The die size of the XSX is also interesting.

If you can get 56CU and a 320-bit memory bus into 360mm2 then everyone's estimations of die size are way way off, and far too big.

A 40CU chip with 256-bit bus would likely be <300mm2, making the PS5 APU the smallest and most conservative silicon Sony have ever put in a console.

Does anyone buy that? That Sony didn't even bother trying?
7nm is more expensive per unit area, and they have NAND costs to offset.
I don't think this is possible, no.

One thing that is very interesting is that the layout of the XSX blew everything that was known about how RDNA1 was layed out straight out of the water.

I posted this in the XSX, but it is relevant here as well. This appears nothing like RDNA1 chips.


Butterfly! *Cerny tear*

Fuck, less than a week off. Get your tubs ready.
Lol, I just realised that our brand spanking new PS5 Speculation Thread turned out to be the mayfly of Era threads.

Well, probably.

Hey, anexanhume, any thoughts on the HBM rumour for old time's sake? 😉
*Holds finger to wind*
81% chance of not happening.
 

big_z

Member
Nov 2, 2017
7,794
I'm just hoping they show the box. I'm guessing the form factor will be like two 2080s stacked on each other but a bit wider to accommodate the disc drive.
 

Doctor Avatar

Member
Jan 10, 2019
2,588
I think it's quite clear now that there was supposed to be a Feb reveal and then a deep dive at GDC with Cerny.

So any insiders that predicted a Feb reveal were probably right about that.
 

Thera

Banned
Feb 28, 2019
12,876
France
A Eurogamer hot take ...


Not very professional behavior. Did they asked SONY to have a presentation like Series X and Sony refused. Now they are bitter and throw things like that? IDK, but weird thing to do.
Should we be reading anything into that? 77 Teraflops confirmed?
I read it like Cerny will focus more on what technical will bring to games rather than just technicals. So SSD, desktop CPU and RT.
Spidey demo with SSD leaked, we aren't supposed to have seen that. So I think we will see that again. Probably GT sports too.

I don't think we will have the specs or footage of new games (maybe Godfall? ). I don't think we will see the console either.
So be prepared (for the ASMR).
 
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