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PS5 price speculation
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$449
Yes, however, DF said that's sustained at all times for XSX.
Yes, however, DF said that's sustained at all times for XSX.
I honestly don't see how BOMs can be that different. I mean the GPU being small will make it cheaper but then you probably have a more expensive SSD an cooling system. So I guess $450 vs $499?
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'Variable frequency'. It's sometimes boosted to 10TF.9TF console, did I miss something, Cerny talk said 10.3TF? Also DF is quoting this?
It has variable frequency. 10.28 only at max frequency (best case scenario) while xbox is fixed at 12.16TF.
It is no way a 10TF machine just because it was advertised to be.
Nope xbox is not variable. It is fixed 12.16
TF all the time
Anything over $399 feels like a mistake now. Today was a misstep and coming in at $399 at least erases some of that.
I hope it will be cheaper than the XSX due to its inferior performance, but the custom SSD stuff sounds more expensive than what MS is doing. So I think both will be $499, which won't look great for Sony.
$449.99
Anything above $399 feels too much to me. Especially with how many people aren't working right now and for god knows how long.
Anything above $399 feels too much to me. Especially with how many people aren't working right now and for god knows how long.
Im trying to find out where you're sourcing the 9 and 10TF numbers from while the only spec we have is that 10.3 Cerny quoted number?
What does "sometimes boosted to 10TF" mean btw, are you claiming PS5 can only operate at 10.3 for a limited time before it loses da powa? it's my understanding GPUs don't always hit their top clocks unless the situation requires?
The Xbox Series X has locked freq it is always 12 TFlops while PS5 will dip down to 9 TFlops. It will be interesting to see what the actual average performance of the PS5. Is it closer to the 10 TFlops or 9 TFlops?
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It's max. clock speed. Sony did that so they could announce the 10TF number. Frequency is variable and will be lower.
This is absolutely best-case for MS. I doubt Sony will allow it to happen.
I feel like they are going to cost the same or at most 50$ cheaper for ps5. Ps5 has a cheaper gpu im assuming but a more expensive ssd solution
I wouldn't say that. Consoles have traditionally had a hard time selling over that price. Microsoft and Sony have first hand experience of that. There seems to be a sweet spot when it comes to price and valuation of the video game market from the general consumer.
But where do you get the 9tf number from? Nowhere was a base frequency mentioned.
Guessing $499. Between the SSD and 4k disc drive it just makes sense... plus, if it's less, I'll be pleasantly surprised.
DF article says to expect a 10% compute drop when the gpu is not at full power
For the foreseeable future, Microsoft is going to be selling the XB1 family as an alternative to the XSX, since all their first party games will come out for current-gen consoles as well. That, combined with the fact that their primary goal is to get subscribers through Game Pass and xCloud rather than selling console units, means that they won't have too many issues with selling the Series X as a high-end console at higher prices.
And there's also the high possibility of a Series S or whatever they choose to call it being a cheaper alternative down the road.
according to the EG article: ""When that worst case game arrives, it will run at a lower clock speed. But not too much lower, to reduce power by 10 per cent it only takes a couple of percent reduction in frequency, so I'd expect any downclocking to be pretty minor". This gives me the impression that delta will be pretty small.
Cerny mentioned the clockspeed dropping by 2%, er to reduce power usage by 10% in rare instances so that would result above 10tf still.
Sony certainly designed it to hit $399. Whether that is still feasible after the reported BOM increase is a different matter.
If Microsoft comes out first with the Series X at $499, Sony probably bites the bullet on $399.
If Microsoft comes out first with the Series X at $499, Sony probably bites the bullet on $399.
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