If there's an option for sound format, make sure it's set to bitstream and not PCM. Optical can't carry surround over PCM. With Bitstream you can at least get Dolby Digital 5.1 or DTS 5.1
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PS5 doesn't have optical audio port
- Thread starter Adahel
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I see. What's the difference between that and plugging my optical DAC straight into the optical port of my TV? Is it the latency (and the pain of having to switch TV audio sources every time)?
Optical isn't lossless
You can't do trueHD and DTS audio over optical. But it isn't like it's bad
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HDMI vs Optical
When it comes time to connect your shiny new sound bar or AV receiver, your two main choices are HDMI or optical digital audio. The simplest advice is to go with HDMI when you can. But if you can't...
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In the past, this would have bothered me. Since I got a high res soundbar, I understand audio through hdmi is better. Also said soundbar and my TV have optical output so I'm covered there in that sense too.
I guess optical had a good run. Definitely used it alot on my ps3 when I had to rely on a headphone with audio amp for late night gaming.
I guess optical had a good run. Definitely used it alot on my ps3 when I had to rely on a headphone with audio amp for late night gaming.
Thanks for the help. Much appreciated. I don't look forward to experimenting with my options, haha.Optical isn't lossless
You can't do trueHD and DTS audio over optical. But it isn't like it's bad
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HDMI vs Optical
When it comes time to connect your shiny new sound bar or AV receiver, your two main choices are HDMI or optical digital audio. The simplest advice is to go with HDMI when you can. But if you can't...
Optical had a great run. I remember getting a Sony 5.1 system in 2004, hooking up my PS2, and watching Lord of the Rings. It was glorious. The fact that it's been around for 20 years is damn impressive. But it just simply can't handle modern formats, so it's time for it to go.
It worked, however, there's a slight delay in the audio. Is there any way of fixing this?
See if there is a AV sync correction option on the HT or on your tv and see if that fixes the problem here is a article from sony support about it:
If that doesnt fix your problem then your only option is to get a HDMI audio extractor a few have been posted in this thread or buy a new audio set.
what other inputs should they be using besides usb? hdmi? i don't think there's any gaming headsets that have hdmi connections afaik
Thanks! So a HDMI audio extractor will guaranteed fix the issue? Also, how do I go about connecting it? Do I plug the optical cable from the receiver to the extractor, then an HDMI cable (in or out?) from the extractor to the TV? Or is the opposite way?
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From what I gather its a hdmi cable goes from console to HDMI IN on the extractor and then another hdmi cable from the HDMI out on the extractor to the TV and a optical cable goes from Optical out on the extractor to the HT, as for how well this all works cant tell ya never used them before but I see they are recommended in this very topic so maybe someone with a bit more experience using these devices can help you out.
Just read that the HDMI splitter that Astro is selling as a solution to the lack of optical does not support HDMI 2.1. So the question is how important 2.1 will be for the first year?
I hate compromises! Also no word on when a new gen of PS5 compatible headsets with Mixamps will reach us. :/
I hate compromises! Also no word on when a new gen of PS5 compatible headsets with Mixamps will reach us. :/
2.1 should not be a deal breaker for most people at least initially unless you plan to run 120fps game modes like DiRT 5 on your TV that can support it. Personally i would only get the splitter if your not purchasing another headset for a while but otherwise i would try and upgrade your headset to a non-optical if you are having to compromise on 120fps modes that your TV could support.
As an astro A50 PS4 owner, I'm not bothering with this adapter for now given the only thing we miss out on is the chat/game balance control on the right ear paddle, instead we'll have to use whatever PS5 gives us in it's equivalent of quick menu. I do use that paddle quite often, but I'll just wait and see what options become available. Being 2.0 only, there's nothing special about this adapter anyhow so random amazon no-name version would do the same job too if need be.
VRR has to be using 120Hz to work properly at all frame rates - so it's not just for 120 FPS games.
Got the Astro splitter today, running it on the PS4 pro to see how it is - audio quality is somehow(?) better than audio from the PS4 optical port, doesn't introduce any noticeable input lag, still 60fps and still getting full res/60FPS.
I run all my console audio through my PC with Optical and with the Switch a line in so everything goes into the PC and out to wireless headphones so needed the splitter or my setup would have needed a complete rethink just for PS5.
So can't complain about it so far.
I run all my console audio through my PC with Optical and with the Switch a line in so everything goes into the PC and out to wireless headphones so needed the splitter or my setup would have needed a complete rethink just for PS5.
So can't complain about it so far.
The thing seems sold out which is a huge shame otherwise this would be perfect for me.
Asking why a console releasing in 2020 doesn't have optical audio port is about the same of asking why a GPU releasing in 2020 doesn't have a vga port.
Not really, a lot of people don't have VGA monitors on their current computers. There's a fair number of headsets using optical for surround currently on the market that work fine on consoles currently on the market.
Depends entirely on the TV and even sometimes the audio format. My 2019 TCL 6-Series added about 60ms of audio lag iirc, as measured by me running the lag test in Crypt of the Necrodancer. Apparently it's a common problem with TVs that use Roku as the OS, some TVs it's fine if you have the output format in the TV set to PCM Stereo, and some (many?) TVs supposedly don't have a problem at all.
Can someone recommend a good HDMI to Optical splitter? I want to connect my Logitech 5.1 system that supports DD and DTS to my PS5.
I have an old one I used on my WiiU and Switch, when I use it on my PS5 it gets no signal.
I assume I need one that supports 4k and HDR.
I have an old one I used on my WiiU and Switch, when I use it on my PS5 it gets no signal.
I assume I need one that supports 4k and HDR.
I was able to get 5.1 DTS to my Logitech speaker system that uses optical with this:
Amazon.com: HDMI Audio Extractor 4K, NerdEthos HDMI to HDMI + Optical Toslink (5.1 SPDIF) + 3.5mm AUX Stereo Audio Converter, HDMI Audio Adapter, Supports HDMI 2.0b, HDCP 2. 2, 4K@60Hz, 3D, Dolby 5.1: Home Audio & Theater
Buy HDMI Audio Extractor 4K, NerdEthos HDMI to HDMI + Optical Toslink (5.1 SPDIF) + 3.5mm AUX Stereo Audio Converter, HDMI Audio Adapter, Supports HDMI 2.0b, HDCP 2. 2, 4K@60Hz, 3D, Dolby 5.1: Selector Switch Boxes - Amazon.com ✓ FREE DELIVERY possible on eligible purchases
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It works great, full 4k HDR passthrough as well with no audio lag.
Amazon.com: HDMI Audio Extractor 4K, NerdEthos HDMI to HDMI + Optical Toslink (5.1 SPDIF) + 3.5mm AUX Stereo Audio Converter, HDMI Audio Adapter, Supports HDMI 2.0b, HDCP 2. 2, 4K@60Hz, 3D, Dolby 5.1: Home Audio & Theater
Buy HDMI Audio Extractor 4K, NerdEthos HDMI to HDMI + Optical Toslink (5.1 SPDIF) + 3.5mm AUX Stereo Audio Converter, HDMI Audio Adapter, Supports HDMI 2.0b, HDCP 2. 2, 4K@60Hz, 3D, Dolby 5.1: Selector Switch Boxes - Amazon.com ✓ FREE DELIVERY possible on eligible purchases
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It works great, full 4k HDR passthrough as well with no audio lag.
lol it's not like optical is outdated, which is the case for VGA. Optical can deliver uncompressed audio and surround sound, which is perfectly adequate in today's standards.
A lot of people don't have high-end "modern format" sound systems. This is like saying, "USB 2 had a great run, but now that USB 3 is here it's time for USB 2 to retire."
It can't though. This is wrong. You can only get one at a time, not both.
Losing the optical out wouldn't be so bad if the new systems had better support for USB DACS. We're basically limited to wireless headphones (crap), mixamp (crap), low volume UAC1 dacs and of course plugging straight into the controller for some truly crap audio. Sony and Microsoft advertised 3d audio as the next big thing and then failed to support the hardware capable of using it. This all would have been fixed by including an optical port. It couldn't possibly cost much money to do so.
You're comparing two different versions of the same connector that are backwards compatible. A better comparison would be "PS2 had a great run, but now that USB is here it's time for PS2 to retire" which it has because many computers don't even come with PS2 ports anymore.
For headphone users optical handles everything fine, there's nothing out of date about it for modern DACs.
Its completely outdated. It's from the era of S-Video and SCART.
Optical only has the bandwidth for lossless PCM stereo or lossy DD/DTS 5.1, which are now both ancient codecs.
In the world of HDMI and lossless surround sound formats, optical is a legacy that is well past being usable. Complaining that modern devices don't have optical out is like complaining they don't have component video.
I just use the optical out of my cx into my bryston dac. Problem solved.
It is old; not outdated.
Electrical isolation is still a huge benefit in favor of optical connections, which is especially relevant for headphones.
It is low latency, avoids all of the compatibility issues of USB, and is easily split/switched - which is certainly not the case for USB.
The PS5 does not output 3D Audio over HDMI, so that doesn't solve anything for headphone users.
Yes I'm strictly headphone based so I need the optical out. Optical to bryston bda3 dac to bryston bha1 headphone amp to abyss 1266tc phi headphones. Optical is essential for me.
Edit: the bryston dac has an hdmi input which I will have to try.
No, it doesn't in terms of Tempest audio support. You'll still get sound but it won't be spatial audio on PS5.
I'm only using 2 channel pcm. Perhaps I can use the hdmi arc output on the TV to the dac.
For PC it's fine and works with spatial audio, PS5 is the only one with the issue.
So you do have the option to enable 3D Audio in the PS5 sound settings with an HDMI output selected?
Others have said that the option was grayed-out when HDMI was in use, but I did wonder if that was because their system was configured to more than 2 channels.
This is upsetting. I don't want the input lag of a HDMI chain through my A/V receiver. I would much rather hook my PS5 straight to the TV.
