PS5 doesn't have optical audio port

[Transistor]

Thanks for this but ugh, such a cumbersome solution lol. First they take away our 3.5mm jacks from phones, now they take away our digital optical ports from our home consoles. Sad days

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Those two are very different things though. When it comes to headphone jacks on cell phones, you're getting pretty much the exact same audio out of their other Port, whether it be lightning or USB. with optical, it physically cannot carry the high definition audio that HDMI does. It's literally outdated.

 

[LightKiosk]

Those two are very different things though. When it comes to headphone jacks on cell phones, you're getting pretty much the exact same audio out of their other Port, whether it be lightning or USB. with optical, it physically cannot carry the high definition audio that HDMI does. It's literally outdated.

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True, but I wasn't expecting it to carry over that new sound tech, I was perfectly fine with good ol' stereo audio via soundbar. I'll get a nice headset, maybe even the Playstation wireless set, for the fancy audio stuff.

 

[nib95]

Those two are very different things though. When it comes to headphone jacks on cell phones, you're getting pretty much the exact same audio out of their other Port, whether it be lightning or USB. with optical, it physically cannot carry the high definition audio that HDMI does. It's literally outdated.

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Not entirely true depending on the type of audio device you're using. Many of the new devices that do away with the 3.5mm jack, lack as good a built in DAC, or in many cases have no in-built DAC at all. The DACs are instead in the USB-C to 3.5mm adapters, but the ones inside these adapters are generally crappy.

I had to buy some specialist adapter that had a better DAC, higher volume/power draw and lower noise ceiling. Otherwise my Note 8's built in DAC has better audio quality and volume output than the Samsung USB-C to 3.5mm adapter I had to buy for my Note 10+ (but that I ended up returning).

 

[Transistor]

True, but I wasn't expecting it to carry over that new sound tech, I was perfectly fine with good ol' stereo audio via soundbar. I'll get a nice headset, maybe even the Playstation wireless set, for the fancy audio stuff.

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Fair enough. Does your monitor have an audio out back for headphones or speakers? If it does, you could go console -> monitor -> sound bar maybe?

Not entirely true depending on the type of audio device you're using. Many of the new devices that do away with the 3.5mm jack, lack as good a built in DAC, or in many cases have no in-built DAC at all. The DACs are instead in the USB-C to 3.5mm adapters, but the ones inside these adapters are generally crappy.

I had to buy some specialist adapter that had a better DAC, higher volume/power draw and lower noise ceiling. Otherwise my Note 8's built in DAC has better audio/volume than the Samsung USB-C to 3.5mm adapter I had to buy for my Note 10+.

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Oh, quality wise absolutely there's a difference. I simply meant as far as what's being sent out (left channel and right channel), versus the actual signal difference between HDMI and optical

 

[Samiya]

any gaming headsets that use hdmi + usb instead of the usual optical + usb?

and how does it work with hdmi to the headset receiver from the ps5 if the hdmi cable also has to go to the TV for display?

 

[Mifune]

Guess I'm gonna have to just plug the headphones into the controller. Not an ideal solution for 3D audio but my stereo receiver only takes optical.

 

[ItIsOkBro]

And here I am still using RCA cables.

 

[nib95]

Oh, quality wise absolutely there's a difference. I simply meant as far as what's being sent out (left channel and right channel), versus the actual signal difference between HDMI and optical

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Fair enough, that's a valid point.

 

[Loud Wrong]

Yeah, if the receiver supports eARC, it will support standard ARC, too. But at that point you'd be better going console -> receiver -> TV so you can get lossless audio, too.

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Wait, I should be running the PS5/XSX into a receiver, and then run the receiver into the TV? I wont lose anything HDMI 2.1 related doing that?

 

[LightKiosk]

Fair enough. Does your monitor have an audio out back for headphones or speakers? If it does, you could go console -> monitor -> sound bar maybe?

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I believe it does but I'm currently using my line-in port on PC for Switch -> PC so I can listen to Switch audio and Discord VC at same time.

Though simply going from Switch -> Monitor -> PC line in may be similar and also something I can do for PS5, then go digital optical from PC to soundbar for audio output of whatever is going to PC line-in.

Damn the logistics right now lmao

 

[Transistor]

Wait, I should be running the PS5/XSX into a receiver, and then run the receiver into the TV? I wont lose anything HDMI 2.1 related doing that?

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Well, yes, if you don't have an HDMI 2.1 receiver you will. But you mentioned your TV doesn't support eARC. So I figured it probably doesn't support HDMI 2.1 either.

 

[Loud Wrong]

Well, yes, if you don't have an HDMI 2.1 receiver you will. But you mentioned your TV doesn't support eARC. So I figured it probably doesn't support HDMI 2.1 either.

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I think that was someone else. At this point I have a 1080p TV that's over ten years old and no stereo receiver. I'm deciding between the Sony X900H and LG CX for 2.1 support. For audio I can only use headphones so as to not wake the wife and kid, and I accomplish that by running audio out of the headphone jack on the TV into a FIIO headphone amp. Not ideal, but it allows me to use headphones that the dualshock 4 is too weak to power.

 

[Samiya]

can someone explain to me how to use hdmi from your PS5 to your receiver to get sound if said hdmi cable also has to go to your TV? or do these non-optical consoles have 2 x HDMI ports - one for display and one for sound?

 

[Darknight]

Wait, I should be running the PS5/XSX into a receiver, and then run the receiver into the TV? I wont lose anything HDMI 2.1 related doing that?

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I mean you should but that's a different can of worms as it sounds like you don't have an HDMI 2.1 receiver. You need everything in the chain to be HDMI 2.1 or at least support the features you want in order to be compatible. So it really depends on what's important to you and what hardware you have to figure out what's the best way to hook it up under your circumstances, but the ideal world is HDMI 2.1 TV, HDMI 2.1 receiver and have everything plugged into the receiver.

 

[Darknight]

can someone explain to me how to use hdmi from your PS5 to your receiver to get sound if said hdmi cable also has to go to your TV? or do these non-optical consoles have 2 x HDMI ports - one for display and one for sound?

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PS5 HDMI -> HDMI Input on Receiver -> HDMI Output Receiver -> HDMI TV

 

[Kindekuma]

can someone explain to me how to use hdmi from your PS5 to your receiver to get sound if said hdmi cable also has to go to your TV? or do these non-optical consoles have 2 x HDMI ports - one for display and one for sound?

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Audio receivers with HDMI have passthrough so that it takes the sound signal and pushes the video signal to your display.

 

[Loud Wrong]

Audio receivers with HDMI have passthrough so that it takes the sound signal and pushes the video signal to your display.

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And nothing is lost during the passthrough?

 

[Sheng Long]

Guess I'm gonna have to just plug the headphones into the controller. Not an ideal solution for 3D audio but my stereo receiver only takes optical.

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Your TV doesn't have an optical out?

 

[Kindekuma]

And nothing is lost during the passthrough?

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Correct.

 

[Darknight]

And nothing is lost during the passthrough?

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It's what they're designed for, so no assuming you have something that is compatible throughout the chain.

 

[Loud Wrong]

Correct.

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I dont suppose you have any recommendations? I'm not looking for high end.

 

[KrillinLikeAVillan]

Well that is a bit annoying.

 

[Kindekuma]

I dont suppose you have any recommendations? I'm not looking for high end.

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I honestly have no idea about that. But pretty much all modern sound systems, budget to high end that have HDMI passthrough built in have no degradation in video quality. So it's really up to you!

 

[BobsReset]

Will be interesting to see how my setup works next gen, I currently have my Xbox and PS4 hooked up to a monitor via a HDMI splitter. I wonder if I will need a dongle for each console or just one dongle going into the monitor.

 

[Deleted member 10908]

I wonder how much money Sony and Microsoft are saving on not including this port in their new consoles.

It can't be that much, can it?

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Whatever the cost is times 100million lifetime more or less

 

[Princess Bubblegum]

Fuck, the only way my soundbar works is through optical.

 

[Loud Wrong]

Fuck, the only way my soundbar works is through optical.

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Is your sound bar not connected to your TV via Optical?

 

[NekoFever]

I dont suppose you have any recommendations? I'm not looking for high end.

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Denon, Onkyo and Yamaha all do decent entry level receivers.

You can get a Denon that supports 5.1 speakers, 4K video, all HDR formats, upscaling, all the current audio formats, streaming audio, headphones, Bluetooth, etc for like $250. Mine was only a bit more for 7.2 speakers and eight HDMI inputs.

 

[THE RABID MOOSE]

Just to note because I'm ignorant of this if I have a wireless arctic series headset with one of the usb powered dongles, will that work with the PS5?

 

[androvsky]

Your TV doesn't have an optical out?

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I don't know about everyone else, but my TV (TCL 6-series) adds a crazy amount of audio lag (~60ms) through the optical out and I couldn't figure out how to fix it.

 

[Kapten]

I have recently switched to optical when I bought a CX. My reciever has HDR, 4K and HDMI but not 2.1 which I want to use when PS5 hits.

So theoretically with a splitter with HDMI 2.1, will there be a risk of losing anything quality wise? Like image, or maybe lag in audio? Or should it all be safe you think? Haven't thought about splitters before.

 

[Sheng Long]

I don't know about everyone else, but my TV (TCL 6-series) adds a crazy amount of audio lag (~60ms) through the optical out and I couldn't figure out how to fix it.

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I've heard that about certain TCL TVCs. I have a TCL in my bedroom, but it thankfully never had a problem with optical to an older Sony Soundbar.

 

[Princess Bubblegum]

Is your sound bar not connected to your TV via Optical?

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It is. Duh, silly me getting worried over nothing.

 

[Batsy]

Hopefully HDMI audio extractors with 2.1 support come out sooner rather than later for those of us with DAC/headphone amp setups.

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I didn't even think of this, I currently use an extractor to get my console audio to my pc but there are none that support hdmi 2.1 that I can fine.

 

[Kittens McMittens]

The way I noticed it clearly was by doing a remote play from my mobile to the PS4 and have audio both on mobile and the sound system.
The mobile would actually play it's audio first so the lag of remote play was smaller than the ARC lag :(

As someone said, next gen is getting expensive!

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As the owner of a brand new LG CX 77", the ARC lag is the first thing I noticed. I was able to dick around with the delay settings on my receiver to fix it. Thankfully, I only use ARC for video watching, so lag isn't an issue there. For gaming I do console -> receiver -> TV, which doesn't have the lag issue.

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I guess I don't actually use ARC, I just use the optical out on my TV as I have a pretty old 5.1 receiver. So, most of the time I'm just passing through 5.1 Dolby or DTS to my speakers via optical. That doesn't seem laggy at least!

 

[TyrantII]

Audio is such a PITA. Gonna have to figure out options for PS5 when it comes out for a new headset / mic combo with my setup.

Do we know yet if PS5 will decode DTSX and Dolby Atmos as well? Guessing both will decode them and send the stereo positional PCM mix over HDMI?

Trying to figure out a headset that I can use with PS5 and the Shield and get all three on, while not using an bulky and uneeded receiver (small condo, never going with a real surround sound setup).

Are there any soundbars that can decode all three and then passthrough the decoded audio to a headset w/ mic?

 

[Deleted member 12323]

Astro announced they will support some headsets such as A20, A50s and Mixamp Pro TR through USB for game surround and chat for Series X. Can they not do the same for PS5?

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But not A40?

 

[Deleted member 12323]

I still use and Love these bad boys....

Will look into getting a converter. I am a projector user.

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Same here! Let me know what Converter you get

 

[Deleted member 12323]

I'm not too worried if they don't support it for games but I think it's a must for movies.

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It's fantastic with games

 

[MentalZer0]

That F sucks. FFS!!!

 

[TyrantII]

Its an ancient standard that can't handle the 3D audio stuff both platforms are pushing so it's not a surprise.

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but all the decoding and positional stuff on these 3d audio solutions are done on device and then sent to the speakers.

It's more about locked down copy protection and licensed decoders than anything. After all, Sonys pushing 3D audio from a 3.5mm jack in the controller to ear buds.

For a headset, you just need need a device that can decode Atmos/DTSX/Sonys format and send a stereo signal to a headset.

 

[Darknight]

I dont suppose you have any recommendations? I'm not looking for high end.

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Now might be a bad time to get a receiver unless you're careful. The selection of HDMI 2.1 receivers is pretty slim pickings right now and that should get a lot better in 2021. So if you don't get something that is HDMI 2.1, you need to find at least something that supports the features of HDMI 2.1 so you don't get left behind, especially if you're buying something now and probably don't want to upgrade again any time soon. It also depends on your budget too which might be good enough for one of the HDMI 2.1 receivers out there.

 

[Loud Wrong]

Now might be a bad time to get a receiver unless you're careful. The selection of HDMI 2.1 receivers is pretty slim pickings right now and that should get a lot better in 2021. So if you don't get something that is HDMI 2.1, you need to find at least something that supports the features of HDMI 2.1 so you don't get left behind, especially if you're buying something now and probably don't want to upgrade again any time soon. It also depends on your budget too which might be good enough for one of the HDMI 2.1 receivers out there.

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I've resigned myself to waiting on the audio solution. I think this year I'll just tackle the 4K TV part of the equation. I'd get the LG CX right now but it's not just me (wife and young daughter) and I worry about them not being as careful with burn-in as I would be.

 

[TyrantII]

Guess my question now is are there any wireless headsets with a base station that accept HDMI 2.1 and decode all the current formats, including Atmos and DTS X?

Preferably with a USB mic?

 

[Darknight]

Guess my question now is are there any wireless headsets with a base station that accept HDMI 2.1 and decode all the current formats, including Atmos and DTS X?

Preferably with a USB mic?

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Nope.

 

[dabri]

PS5 HDMI -> HDMI Input on Receiver -> HDMI Output Receiver -> HDMI TV

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Granted, I never did this with my setup. Everything was to the tv and then an audio out from the tv to the receiver. With the cable going from the system to the receiver and from the receiver to the tv, how would any other audio from the tv that ISN'T the PS5 get output by the receiver?

 

[Darknight]

Granted, I never did this with my setup. Everything was to the tv and then an audio out from the tv to the receiver. With the cable going from the system to the receiver and from the receiver to the tv, how would any other audio from the tv that ISN'T the PS5 get output by the receiver?

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That would be through HDMI-ARC/eARC on your TV and HDMI-ARC/eARC on your receiver.

 

[Old Gimlet Eyes]

Sorry guys I'm at work so can't look too closely anyone know how the gen 2 a50 astros will work?! On the astronpage it had support for gen 3 and 4 but not 1 and 2??

 

[Manmademan]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but all the decoding and positional stuff on these 3d audio solutions are done on device and then sent to the speakers.

It's more about locked down copy protection and licensed decoders than anything. After all, Sonys pushing 3D audio from a 3.5mm jack in the controller to ear buds.

For a headset, you just need need a device that can decode Atmos/DTSX/Sonys format and send a stereo signal to a headset.

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Incorrect.

Digital Audio formats like 7.1 or 3D audio are high bandwidth. They send a lot of digital information over to the receiver, and they need to do it at a certain speed.

An optical port is a digital out, but can't carry enough information to support a 7.1 or 3D audio signal going to the receiver.

Its not a "licensed decoder" issue, the cable simply can't carry the signal. It's like asking why you can't get a 1080p signal to your TV using composite or S-video.

As for getting audio via the controller's connection that's using Bluetooth not a "stereo jack" to pick up the signal from the Ps4. I don't know a ton about Bluetooth audio but I'm pretty sure it's highly compressed and severely limited compared to what would be coming from a wired HDMI connection to a receiver.

AFAIK the Sony Platinum headsets that support 7.1 and 3D audio don't use Bluetooth because of this. They have a separate wireless dongle using some other standard. Don't know what that is though, don't own those and don't plan to.

 

[Ensoul]

Well that sucks because I have a good headset with a digital optical cable. I also have an old but good home theater system that just has digital optical.