Whoa, that's cool. No more blackout for few secs, esp from the SDR menu to the HDR media stream (The video is still playing on blackout by HDR switch)
And DF said the results were a brighter picture across the board instead of highlights like you would see in a proper HDR conversion. This isn't the end of the world for most people but it isn't the same as what Microsoft is doing and for anyone wanting image accuracy this sucks.
There seems to be an embargo on all media functions of the PS5 until Wednesday I think, so I don't think anyone has that information yet.
Well good thing I couldn't get a preorder lol. Thanks, will definitely help inform my decision when I can finally maybe get my hands on one next year.
SDR content will be dying in the next few years
Switch HDR to SDR with no blackout still pretty cool to me no matter how you want to change my mind. Blackout is far more annoying for me
I don't think it is anything to do with image quality at all. It is about colour tone mapping.
Have you enabled HDCP? I've noticed weird things with HDR with all sorts of devices when you try to get around HDCP.
Fair, but honest all 4K screen look virtually the same in resolution wise. The image colour can be different from budget to expensive TVs.
DF talks about it during their PS5 backwards compatibility video. As far as what is happening to the image, they are obviously trying to tone map the image one to one from SDR to HDR. So blacks aren't necessarily messed up but apparently whites and the overall picture looks brighter than it should while the colors aren't accurate. It is akin to what happens with the Netflix app on Xbox and PS4. You aren't getting the developer intended image but you aren't getting an approximation of what an HDR image might look like either. You are getting a fake SDR image that is displayed by your TV's HDR mode which isn't setup to display tone mapped SDR in the first place.
I mean 4k is just the amount of pixels you are looking at. 4K is 4K. What's actually important with your TV is the quality of said pixels. How is the pixel lit, what colors actually make up the pixel, what processing does your TV add to change the look of the pixels. If you don't care about image quality then you should be set with your TV. Some or a lot of people do care though.
I seem to recall there being some Samsung TVs which only support 120Hz in SDR - so it might be your display (Samsung or not).
Newer displays should be able to do the switch without blanking though, so it compromises image quality for convenience, when that convenience is no longer required.
You're describing 10-bit SDR, not HDR.
…you can make an image brighter without affecting the black level.
Talk to them cos it sounds fixable via OS update.
like I said, picture working appear is good enough. Don't care of processing or filtering. Just give me picture without setting anything on the TV.
There needs to be something that tone maps things back to SDR for output to Twitch. So either your console or Twitch would have to do that before displaying the image.
This is why I'm not understanding the concern. Nobody who actually has a PS5 at the moment has said anything bad about it, including the guys whose job is literally to analyze picture quality. Everybody is just jumping to conclusions.
Well the image won't be one to one and they aren't doing something akin to auto HDR, so why do it at all? Ultimately this will be a non-issue for most but for those of us who calibrate our TVs, care about color accuracy, etc. forcing HDR by just tone mapping from SDR isn't ideal.
I don't know if it eliminates it as much as it shortens it greatly
Welcome to the world of early HDMI 2.1 adoption! It's been a mess for all of us, just a different mess for each type of TV.
Yep. 2.1 is wildly inconsistent, some TVs are getting firmware updates and some not. It's unfortunately going to take a while to settle too, this is not something that gets resolved overnight.
This confused me. Is SDR not just a subset of HDR? Ie if set up correctly it will still be 100% correct? It will be capped at 100 nits as it is mastered, but still correct. No? I need someone to explain this too me. I get that people over brighten their sdr and hdr usually blocks that.
If you're referring to QMS then it only eliminates connection re-intialization when changing the display frequency (like from 60 to 120 Hz and back) while staying in the same resolution and color mode. And in it's core it's little more than taking advantage of VRR capabilities which allow this to function. So a TV and output device must support VRR for QMS to work.
I think the biggest issue people are worried about is the colour range.
