Ni no kuni Remastered has a resolution and performance mode!
Awesome!
Will do a video/screenshots later
Awesome!
Will do a video/screenshots later
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PS5 Backwards Compatibility: All PS4 games with benefits
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Did anyone manage to get a twitter response from Corey Barlog re unlocking the framerate in GoW 4k? I'd really like to replay that game but not in 1080p or 30fps lol.
I might also give Days Gone a whirl when my ps5 arrives in a couple of weeks. Heard it's actually quite fun at 60fps. One question tho: what's the resolution in the unlocked framerate mode?
I might also give Days Gone a whirl when my ps5 arrives in a couple of weeks. Heard it's actually quite fun at 60fps. One question tho: what's the resolution in the unlocked framerate mode?
Days Gone and Ghost of Tsushima both run at 60fps in the high res mode. Days Gone actually doesn't have any other modes. It's just 60fps if you play it on PS5.
Nice! I'm a bit bummed that I already completed Ghost when it came out. Seems like the 60fos mode was worth waiting for.
Liabe Brave Not sure if you are aware of this, but you have Warframe in the "upcoming PS5 upgrades" graphic but the PS5 upgrade for it is already out. Came out last week.
This is probably a more obscure one but the ps5 seems to be helping this game out a decent amount. You still get a random stutter here and there but it seems mostly smoothed out. The awful lag that you get when starting a battle on ps4 seems mostly gone on ps5 as well.
Sword and Fairy 6
01 | 02 | 03 | 04
Here is ps4 footage of the same two fights that I looked for on youtube quick. Time is @ 30:20 if it doesn't open to it.
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Sword and Fairy 6
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Here is ps4 footage of the same two fights that I looked for on youtube quick. Time is @ 30:20 if it doesn't open to it.
Review Run: Sword and Fairy 6 (PS4) part 1
For the Review on Save or Quit: https://saveorquit.com/2019/05/06/review-sword-and-fairy-6/ Please subscribe and like if you like the content. Genre: Eastern...
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That is good news that I wasn't expecting at all. It's 1440 for both the farming and combat?
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Certainly feels like 60 to me, however in order to get a more scientific answer to this, I'll try capturing some footage today off of both consoles to get a decent comparison. I've got the PS5 version all patched, just need to get it set up on the PS4 Pro again. Will post back here when I'm done.
Ghost is fucking nuts on PS5. Like I swear they updated the textures or something. Honestly the most next gen looking game I've seen. Completely outclasses valhalla and even last of us. Just beautiful. It was great looking before and I dunno if it's some kind of weird placebo but hot damn.
Art style carries it, it's still lacking in attention to detail and animations compared to stuff like TLOU 2 and God of War. At 60fps it's undoubtably gorgeous especially with the moving foliage.
Couple of Crash Bandicoot 4 vids:
Youtube compression aside, you can sorta see the softer looking image. The still screenshots I took ended up as JPEGS so I'm gonna capture some new ones as PNGs which should be better quality. I'm still reinstalling the game on my PS4, so I've not had chance to compare image quality yet, but the vids seem pretty smooth to me, and I definitely don't think the FPS has any problems on the PS5 from the couple of levels I replayed.
Youtube compression aside, you can sorta see the softer looking image. The still screenshots I took ended up as JPEGS so I'm gonna capture some new ones as PNGs which should be better quality. I'm still reinstalling the game on my PS4, so I've not had chance to compare image quality yet, but the vids seem pretty smooth to me, and I definitely don't think the FPS has any problems on the PS5 from the couple of levels I replayed.
Thanks for doing this. The camera movement in the videos looks like it's 60fps.
Yeah, that's what I thought. Its definitely too smooth to feel like 30FPS, but the resolution thing still bugs me:
Annoyingly despite choosing PNG the file name suggests its JPEG... guessing I have Twitter to blame for that. One thing I wonder though - is motion blur (partially) to blame? I actually disabled motion blur and did a run of Crash Landing and everything its definitely looking sharper, or at least due to the lack of motion blur, its not looking quite as soft. The vids were recorded with motion blur on.
Honestly, playing it back to back on Pro and then 5, I'm starting to wonder if some of this is in my head... but if it is indeed an issue, here's hoping it gets patched.
Frame rate is unlocked, it's resolution what's restricted when updating. You'll miss bug fixes, QoL improvements and New Game+ options.
So I bought Ghosts of Tsushima, The Last of Us Part II, and Persona 5: The Royal during the PSN sale. Not sure when I'm going to have time to get through these three games, but they've been high up on my list for awhile. Ghosts looks absolutely incredible at 60 fps on PS5. The HDR effects are pristine! I wish the Last of Us Part II received similar treatment...the game still looks gorgeous though. I haven't tried Person 5 yet; does anyone know if it gets any benefits from PS5?
Sorry I meant unlocked 4K 60fps. I can live without that stuff I think!
Just realised I posted this in the wrong thread the other day!
Done another round of testing :)
Ace Combat 7, Gravity Rush 2, Deus Ex: Mankind Divided, Just Cause 3, Firewatch, Nier Automata, Saints Row 3 Remastered, Shadow of the Colossus, Shadow of the Tomb Raider, Return to Arkham, and briefly discussed a rumour that's going round about putting the PS5 into Performance Mode with TLOU2 :)
Done another round of testing :)
Ace Combat 7, Gravity Rush 2, Deus Ex: Mankind Divided, Just Cause 3, Firewatch, Nier Automata, Saints Row 3 Remastered, Shadow of the Colossus, Shadow of the Tomb Raider, Return to Arkham, and briefly discussed a rumour that's going round about putting the PS5 into Performance Mode with TLOU2 :)
I've done all these games sequentially, without changing any setting. I am on a 4K display.
I might give another go to the game but that could mean the game isn't recognizing 4K displays on a PS5.
EDIT: OK, I might have found something interesting...
Launched the game today, did some captures, and they really were at 4K this time. But when I launched the game, something was different - the game was running at 30 fps. Which was weird, because on Pro, the game seems to be 45-60 fps.
Then I tried to launch the game in Performance mode in the PS5 settings, with no change.
Then I remembered that I unplugged my PSVR V1, the one that doesn't have an HDR passthrough. So I decided to make another test by disabling HDR. And well...
Monster Energy Supercross - HDR enabled
Monster Energy Supercross - HDR disabled
When HDR is enabled, the game runs at 30 fps. When it's disabled, it runs at 60.
Note that the menus have changed - in the graphic options, instead of a HDR setting, we only have gamma, which can show two settings for the game: HDR 30 fps, or no HDR 60 fps (which is kinda odd because HDR basically has no impact on performance).
I think it's a very specific case, but it might be interesting to check other games with and without HDR.
However, it seems that on PS5, the game always runs at 1080p, with or without HDR. Either the 1440p info on the Pro thread is wrong, or there's a problem with the game running on PS5.
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Anyone try Man of Medan on their PS5? The game is actually on promo a little under 10$, wondering if it's worth it.
Here is some Ni No Kuni Remastered footage (performance mode / 1440p/60fps)
Starting with the boot up and fighting a few monsters.
And some Rainbow Six Siege footage.
Didn't record the boot up as it took like 7 Min to find a game and get the match going!
Excuse my noobiness, haven't played it since 2016 and can't remember how to play lol.
And finally some Rocket Arena. (video hasn't finished processing 100%) - game actually doesn't seem that bad. Played my first ever match and came first lol.
I will post the screenshots tomorrow.
Starting with the boot up and fighting a few monsters.
And some Rainbow Six Siege footage.
Didn't record the boot up as it took like 7 Min to find a game and get the match going!
Excuse my noobiness, haven't played it since 2016 and can't remember how to play lol.
And finally some Rocket Arena. (video hasn't finished processing 100%) - game actually doesn't seem that bad. Played my first ever match and came first lol.
I will post the screenshots tomorrow.
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Thanks! Note there's something wrong with screenshots you've posted. They have lots of compression artifacts, like multiple generations of JPEG. Are you sending through Twitter, using anonymous Imgur, etc?
Just forgot, thanks. I'll remove it when next I update.
Yes, Sakuna appears to be 1440p60 at all times.
Thanks, let us know.
No photo mode, no new game plus. I saw a claim of a late-game bug that stopped progression, but with no details or corroboration.
Yes, Twitter makes everything into medium-quality JPEGs. If you want to share screenshots, I'd ask that you use a USB drive to get them off the PS5. Detailed instructions are in the Threadmarks.
Okay, this is very odd. Good looking out! Can you test if the game does the same changing of options if HDR is disabled on PS4?
Been playing Sniper Ghost Warrior: Contracts on PS5 and I think it's now 60fps! It's really smooth and not only that but loads pretty fast as well. I also tried out Sniper Ghost Warrior 3 since it's in that list of uncapped/unstable 60fps games and unfortunately there isn't much improvement at all, seems to hover around 30fps and doesn't feel very good at all. Contracts though feels great, a game worth checking out I'd say.
I have both versions, on the PC you have complete control of the internal rendering res separately from the display output res. Here it is at 1440p internal/4k reconstructed on the left, PS5 on the right:
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Perhaps textures? The PS5 version looks significantly noisier/chunkier.
I had MSAA at 4x (due to the way the Remedy engine works this actually doesn't have much of a performance impact), it helps but it's not the reason for the discrepancy in clarity. Here it is with no MSAA vs the PS5:
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P5R already ran at native 4k with a locked 30fps on PS4 Pro, so I would assume that you get the exact same on PS5.
I've done all these games sequentially, without changing any setting. I am on a 4K display.
I might give another go to the game but that could mean the game isn't recognizing 4K displays on a PS5.
EDIT: OK, I might have found something interesting...
Launched the game today, did some captures, and they really were at 4K this time. But when I launched the game, something was different - the game was running at 30 fps. Which was weird, because on Pro, the game seems to be 45-60 fps.
Then I tried to launch the game in Performance mode in the PS5 settings, with no change.
Then I remembered that I unplugged my PSVR V1, the one that doesn't have an HDR passthrough. So I decided to make another test by disabling HDR. And well...
Monster Energy Supercross - HDR enabled
Monster Energy Supercross - HDR disabled
When HDR is enabled, the game runs at 30 fps. When it's disabled, it runs at 60.
Note that the menus have changed - in the graphic options, instead of a HDR setting, we only have gamma, which can show two settings for the game: HDR 30 fps, or no HDR 60 fps (which is kinda odd because HDR basically has no impact on performance).
I think it's a very specific case, but it might be interesting to check other games with and without HDR.
However, it seems that on PS5, the game always runs at 1080p, with or without HDR. Either the 1440p info on the Pro thread is wrong, or there's a problem with the game running on PS5.
Interesting... I redownloaded this game last night to test... but I also downloaded Part 3, just to see how that one was as well. My God playing these 120fps games I've been playing are ruining me. I don't remember Part 3 looking/moving that bad.
Just for the heck of it, I might try Part 3 with HDR off (unless they have locked it at 30fps no matter what for part 2 and 3.)
Your HDR off video for part 1, looks GREAT! The series already had a photo realistic look, and I believe they cut back on the graphics alittle bit after part one? Eitherway if this 60fps option gets people back into part 1, I'll start playing it again. Because when I searched for an online game last night, unsurprisingly, no one was there to be found. lol.
Further update on this...
You were on the right track.
- All audio - including dialogue - plays fine with PS Gold Headphones
- For TV speakers, I reached out to Insomniac on Twitter and they responded. I had to set my audio output priority to "Bitstream (DTS)" in order to hear everything properly.
Their reply to me:
Insomniac on Twitter said:
Not sure if this is the fault of my TV or the PS5, but maybe worth noting for anyone else who may have trouble with Ratchet's dialogue audio.
The latest batch of screenshots I took I copied to a usb from the ps5, then uploaded them to imgbb.
Is it perhaps my screenshot settings on the ps5 causing the compression?
I actually had this issue with Kingdom Hearts 3. I switched the system audio setting from TV to 2.1 amplifier and that fixed it.
You need to set the PS5 to save captures as PNGs for lossless Screenshots. JPEGs won't be good enough.
I thought I had set it up as that. I'll double check when I get back on it. Thanks!
I'm not sure if this is the right thread to post in, but has anyone put together any input lag numbers for PS4 games on PS5 and how it compares to native hardware?
Just Cause 4
First 20 minutes of the story
Blowing up a base + escorting prisoners
Taking the opportunity of having JC4 free on Plus to bring footage on it. Of course impossible to expect a bump to 60 fps but the game was a solid 30 fps on PS4 Pro, and so it is on PS5. Let's hope for a dynamic 1440p that is closest to that resolution!
First 20 minutes of the story
Blowing up a base + escorting prisoners
Taking the opportunity of having JC4 free on Plus to bring footage on it. Of course impossible to expect a bump to 60 fps but the game was a solid 30 fps on PS4 Pro, and so it is on PS5. Let's hope for a dynamic 1440p that is closest to that resolution!
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OK so I apparently had "HDR" on for screenshots which set the file type to auto, which I guess was JPEG. Have turned that off and have set to png now.
Could I just take a screenshot from the videos or would it have to be taken in-game?
Only ask because I deleted siege already lol
No one from Sony has said that they don't mind if you use PSXDownloadHelper to grab 1.0 versions of digital software that you own the licenses to. So if you're at all worried about getting banned for doing it and need a 100% in writing guarantee, don't do it. I will tell you that there's about 0% chance you'd be banned, because the software doesn't do anything to modify the console or PlayStation Network. But no one on the internet can make the promise or guarantee that you wouldn't be. The software has been in use for years by hundreds of users.
Yeah, that's what I thought. Its definitely too smooth to feel like 30FPS, but the resolution thing still bugs me:
Annoyingly despite choosing PNG the file name suggests its JPEG... guessing I have Twitter to blame for that. One thing I wonder though - is motion blur (partially) to blame? I actually disabled motion blur and did a run of Crash Landing and everything its definitely looking sharper, or at least due to the lack of motion blur, its not looking quite as soft. The vids were recorded with motion blur on.
Honestly, playing it back to back on Pro and then 5, I'm starting to wonder if some of this is in my head... but if it is indeed an issue, here's hoping it gets patched.
I just played on both PS4 Pro and PS5 and it's the same. Even the softness of the image looks the same to me. I don't know why I thought it looked and ran worse on the PS5
It does run at 60fps. Not sure why it doesn't feel as smooth to me, but regardless it's the same on both the pro and the ps5
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I did see this was posted on your channel though not here. Thanks again for going through these!
It's the reconstruction method. Even with same-sized source and target buffers, console reconstruction doesn't have the headroom to throw at the problem. I'm not sure what the most telling factor is--more frames accumulated, denser resampling, trained scaling kernel, sharpness filter, etc.--but the end result is considerably more precision in the PC version. This comes at the cost of increased distortion halos on motion, but in such a soft game I doubt this is very noticeable during play.
You can disregard, your Jedi Fallen Order shot is just fine. It's the Watch_Dogs 2 stuff I was referring to, and it turns out it has nothing to do with you. The constant, heavy checker artifacts have always made that game by far the worst-looking CBR implementation I've seen. As it turns out, when you try to compress that fine detail it turns into spongy goo.
JPEGs from PS5 are usually fine, as long as they don't get compressed again. PNGs are ideal, though.
All your shots counted as 1440 (except for the prerecorded cutscenes at 1080p), so it seems the dynamic res does stick very close to the max. Given the kind of game this is, there's no way to guarantee it stays high during later full-on chaos. But it seems pretty solid.
I've added 27 games to the list: Borderlands: The Handsome Collection, Bulletstorm, Control, Crash Bandicoot 4, DayZ, Dragon Quest Heroes II, Flywrench, Invisible, Inc., Journey, Just Cause 4, LittleBigPlanet 3, Mad Max, Mirror's Edge Catalyst, Monster Energy Supercross, PAC-MAN 256, PAC-MAN Championship Edition 2, Paladins, Sakuna: Of Rice and Ruin, Sniper: Ghost Warrior Contracts, SUPERHOT, SUPERHOT: Mind Control Delete, Sword and Fairy 6, SAO: Alicization Lycoris, Tom Clancy's The Division 2, Trials Rising, Watch_Dogs 2, and The Wonderful 101.
Have a great one!
That's good to hear, since the JPEGs conserve the HDR Metadata, unlike the PNGs.
Does that work even when copied out to usb? I know the FAQ says they are converted to SDR if shared or exported.
You guys got to give them a chance to patch these games. Covid has probably hit some of these studios pretty hard since working from home wasn't always a thing for them and the fact that they have new projects they are under pressure to push out
Fair point but it was like £7 and mainly I'm just interested to see it.
Identical to PS4, game never got a Pro patch and it was pretty much always locked at 60 fps. Any potential dips are probably cleaned up on PS5.
The game was already locked 60 on Pro since it's just 1080p, there will be zero difference.
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