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Beer Monkey

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No glitches? I was getting glitches on Manhunt and just assumed all of the PS2 Classics would be a bit broke.

FWIW at one point I did a camera test on Psychonauts PS2 Classic on PS4 Pro and it was BAD like at least 9 frames of lag on top of my display. Not even kidding.

It feels much better on PS5. Not as good as Xbox, but much better.

PS2 classics are SO weird.
 

Sei

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I tried playing Destiny 2 PS4 version. It runs and looks so bad, compared even to a low end PC. Really have to wait for that upgrade.
 

Winstano

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Hellblade has some graphical glitching in it that I didn't see in the PS4/Pro version. Another video going up tomorrow (done a Borderlands one today) then I'm going to try and enjoy the rest of the launch period for a bit :)
 
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Howdy! I forgot to post that I added 10 games to the list:
Aragami, Dynasty Warriors 8 Empires, Dynasty Warriors 9, Earth Defense Force 5, Final Fantasy XIV, Hellblade, Persona 5 Scramble, Primal, Warriors Orochi 4, and Ys IX.

I didn't want to overburden the entry with specifics, but people may be interested in the detail of Final Fantasy XIV. The stress test I saw was the Bozjan Southern Front critical engagement against the Red Chocobo. With 24 players and all visual effects on, in the heat of the fight the lowest framerate I saw was 45fps. I don't know if there are any known worse areas for performance, but this seemed pretty heavy. All the other footage I saw was solid 60fps.
 
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Do we post issues we're having with BC here as well, or do we have a thread for that? I've had two issues with Overwatch on PS5 in the two hours I've played that I've never had in the 1,700 hours I've played on PS4.
I'd like to hear about any issues. What was the problem?

I swear, Disgaea 5 looks better than it did on a PS4 PRO. Go and look for yourself. It's the most improved title that I have found.
Is there any way you could post some PS5 screenshots? I'd love to compare to existing PS4 shots.

So Destiny 2 is 4k checkerboarded right? I noticed it has some occasional fuzzy distortions on some objects and models.
Yes. I believe the PS5 upgrade to be released in a couple weeks will change it to native, though.

60fps, 1080 thanks to upscaling, joystick-centric controls, and co-op campaign? It's still a good'n.
Would you be able to post some screenshots of Twisted Metal Black from your PS5?

How does Resident Evil 2 Remake run on the PS5?
Is the FPS ever higher than 60 FPS? Because if so, the knife will be OP.
It's in the OP. I haven't seen anything over 60fps.

No glitches? I was getting glitches on Manhunt and just assumed all of the PS2 Classics would be a bit broke.
A bigger percentage have problems than for PS4 native games, but it's still a minority. The ResetEra user andshrew has provided a great tool where you can look at how Sony classes games behind the scenes. His searchable database is here. Games listed with PS5 status "compatible" should be free of BC errors.

Those labeled "bootable" (like Manhunt) will probably have some. But the severity of their issues varies; some such titles have been played with no visible problems turning up (even to such detail sticklers as Digital Foundry). Some, like Sea of Solitude, may be so bad as to be effectively unplayable.
 

Azaan60

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Hellblade has some graphical glitching in it that I didn't see in the PS4/Pro version. Another video going up tomorrow (done a Borderlands one today) then I'm going to try and enjoy the rest of the launch period for a bit :)

You forgot to do the 120fps mode on Borderlands 3.

The PS5/Series X versions of BF3 run at 120fps in Performance Mode.

Also if possible could you do Saints Row 4 & Saints Row 3 on next gen? Both have uncapped framerates so they should be at 60fps now.
 

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Golly, Infamous SS has aged like fine wine. Even coming off Miles Morales, the high-res PBR assets, particle effects and performance capture all upscale beautifully!
 

BreakAtmo

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Golly, Infamous SS has aged like fine wine. Even coming off Miles Morales, the high-res PBR assets, particle effects and performance capture all upscale beautifully!

The PS4 was limited in a bunch of important areas, but if it had one thing, it was graphical grunt (plus an easy-to-use architecture that let devs hit the ground running). Sometimes I wonder what a $499 PS4 with a small SSD cache and higher clocks across the APU (facilitated by more expensive cooling) might have been like.
 

metalgear89

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Has anyone tried control?

That had some insane fps drops, like single digits and the graphics use to get really badly pixelated alongside fps dips. Even pausing the game would trigger those issue.
 

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I didn't want to overburden the entry with specifics, but people may be interested in the detail of Final Fantasy XIV. The stress test I saw was the Bozjan Southern Front critical engagement against the Red Chocobo. With 24 players and all visual effects on, in the heat of the fight the lowest framerate I saw was 45fps. I don't know if there are any known worse areas for performance, but this seemed pretty heavy. All the other footage I saw was solid 60fps.

Whew, that's awesome. <3 Thanks for finding out!
 
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Liabe Brave

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Try and stop me! I'm working for a few, but I'll grab a couple. Got a certain vehicle/level combo you'd like to see?
Player's choice, and I see you've already been busy. Thanks for these!

Best place to host recordings/caps? Imgur ok?
Imgur is bad for large files (it recompresses them). I'd prefer lensdump.com, imgbb.com, abload.de. There may be other better hosts as well.

Is there a version of this thread for Xbox?
Yes there is, check a look.

Whew, that's awesome. <3 Thanks for finding out!
No problem. Do you happen to know if there are other areas/fights with worse performance historically?
 

KalBalboa

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Player's choice, and I see you've already been busy. Thanks for these!


Imgur is bad for large files (it recompresses them). I'd prefer lensdump.com, imgbb.com, abload.de. There may be other better hosts as well.

Noted. I'll try and post these on one of those services. Are these getting used in some sorta BC reference capacity or just to make the thread funner?

Any other PS2 titles you'd like to see? I own 30+ of them on PS4/PS5.
 
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Noted. I'll try and post these on one of those services. Are these getting used in some sorta BC reference capacity or just to make the thread funner?
Fun is plenty good reason enough, but I do actually use them for analysis. I pixel count to see what actual resolution is running. (These remasters say 1080p on the PS Store, but are using subpixel supersampling to achieve that, and are all actually a little bit different.)

Any other PS2 titles you'd like to see? I own 30+ of them on PS4/PS5.
Anything that's not already in the OP list, yeah!
 

Silly Buck

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I'd just like to say I also would love RDR2 at 60 fps
Chances for this to happen gotta be pretty high though no? Just a matter of time
 

xGrizzly

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What are we thinking that GTA V next-gen update is gonna be? I'm assuming an upscale and improved frame-rate only like 4K/60 but here's hoping for more.
 

J75

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For the 3 or so people that probably have the game on this site, City Shrouded In Shadow is basically locked 60fps even when a bunch of dust and fire is onscreen. Given that the game was sub 30 most of the time on PS4 I'd say that's a huge leap. Now if only I could play without using a camera translator :(
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Great news. Was wondering about this game. Thanks.
 

KalBalboa

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Fun is plenty good reason enough, but I do actually use them for analysis. I pixel count to see what actual resolution is running. (These remasters say 1080p on the PS Store, but are using subpixel supersampling to achieve that, and are all actually a little bit different.)


Anything that's not already in the OP list, yeah!

Cool. If it's easier for you, I can Dropbox you recordings/captures for the next few.
 

JohnnyMoses

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I posted some Infamous First Light gameplay (4K should be processed soon). It should run like Second Son, but in case anyone wants to check it out...
 

Rumi

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Played a few hours of Blue Reflection earlier and it seems to be smoother and holding that 60fps compared to the ps4 version.
 

Big Powder

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As an update to my previous post about Catherine: Full Body, I uninstalled and reinstalled it after the PS5 system update and it seems to work just fine now! Uninstalling didn't work before, so I assume the update must have done something that fixed it.
 
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Cool. If it's easier for you, I can Dropbox you recordings/captures for the next few.
Whatever's easiest for you. Thanks so much!

Would having a separate thread for psvr performance be too niche/ take away from this thread?
I do intend to include PSVR BC titles here too--there's one in the list already. I just don't have enough entries to make a separate section yet.

But I have no issue if you'd like to make a separate thread focused just on VR. I can pull data from there too.

Played a few hours of Blue Reflection earlier and it seems to be smoother and holding that 60fps compared to the ps4 version.
Is there any way you could post 60fps footage to Youtube? The game on PS4 had complex details (30fps most fights, unstable 60fps traversal, 60fps school stuff), so I'd like to really dig in on PS5 before adding.

As an update to my previous post about Catherine: Full Body, I uninstalled and reinstalled it after the PS5 system update and it seems to work just fine now! Uninstalling didn't work before, so I assume the update must have done something that fixed it.
Great to hear it!
 
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No Depth

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Is Samurai Shodown (2019) not available to play on PS5? It's not listed at all under the storefront.

Am I crazy or blind?
 

petethepanda

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Anyone tried Outer Wilds yet?
Fired it up and flew around for a quick cycle last night. It's still locked at 30, but it seems completely solid, I didn't notice the occasional dips I did previously (though I only played a few hours on PS4 originally and wasn't aware of any particular rough spots).
 

tr00per

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I do intend to include PSVR BC titles here too--there's one in the list already. I just don't have enough entries to make a separate section yet.

But I have no issue if you'd like to make a separate thread focused just on VR. I can pull data from there too.

Well I probably couldn't give it the attention to properly update and maintain it nearly as well, but if I can help contribute to this thread (or a theoretical new one) I'm certainly willing. I don't have any special capture equipment though
 

Winstano

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You forgot to do the 120fps mode on Borderlands 3.

The PS5/Series X versions of BF3 run at 120fps in Performance Mode.

Also if possible could you do Saints Row 4 & Saints Row 3 on next gen? Both have uncapped framerates so they should be at 60fps now.

I didn't forget to do anything :P We just can't capture 120Hz
 

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Moved my stills to LensDump; click thumbs for full res.

Jak & Daxter: The Precursor Legacy (AKA, The Most Underrated Platformer of All Time™)







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