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PS5 Speculation |OT12| - Aw hell, Transistor's running this again?
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Isn't it easy for Sony to track down the source of the leak if this guy wears his studio logo as an avatar?
We don't seem to have a user by that name
EDIT: Ignore this. I didn't have the apostrophe in my search.
Even if there's a big gap in CPU speeds? RAM speed? RAM amounts?
There are loads of points of comparison here.
Only speaking for myself here, but I can't wait for the faster drives. I'd give up TF any day of the week to get an even faster drive.
This right here.
Unfortunately there will be those out there on the internet that'll use these numbers as fanboy weapons.
Yes, usually it's in the doc of the devkit. And devs, particularly on a Playstation machine, need to know the number of CUs because they can access to the CUs (well here probably WGP) individually.
Like 2-3 seconds of loading time before the game starts and prestine vip seats in crossplat lobbies.
Even faster than what is currently rumored for next gen? What would you do with it? I'm guessing most games will be held back by the fact that the game might also have to run on PCs with slow hard disks or last gen consoles.
I'm really wondering what plans MS / Sony have for storage.
- What does the base storage look like
Personally, I wouldn't mind paying extra for a 2TB system on launch tbh, I'm just going to end up getting additional storage anyway and I'm done with spinning drives. I'd probably end up spending a lot on some external ssd setup for better perf, so I'd rather just pay upfront and get more system storage.
- What does the base storage look like
- will there be higher SKUs? on launch?
- would it be user-replaceable?
- would there be first party/proprietary storage solutions?
- what would pricing options look like?
- How will external storage be supported?- will there be minimum speed reqs if you want to play directly off an external?
- Will they just encourage you to delete games and use streaming etcPersonally, I wouldn't mind paying extra for a 2TB system on launch tbh, I'm just going to end up getting additional storage anyway and I'm done with spinning drives. I'd probably end up spending a lot on some external ssd setup for better perf, so I'd rather just pay upfront and get more system storage.
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Yes there base on a dev kit and he don't know the retail specs .
It should also be noted that there many different dev kit out if we go by another dev and this might not be the final one.
Providing additional info for the newest PS5 rumor ...
I hope someone explains me how BC will work with that setup.
Here what I see would need to happen for BC:
In order to have PS4 BC you would need to disable 3 single WGPs in one SE and disable the other SE completely.
In order to have PS4 Pro BC you would to need disable 3 single WGPs in both SEs.
I hope someone explains me how BC will work with that setup.
Here what I see would need to happen for BC:
In order to have PS4 BC you would need to disable 3 single WGPs in one SE and disable the other SE completely.
In order to have PS4 Pro BC you would to need disable 3 single WGPs in both SEs.
Awesome that we are getting great CPUs this gen then.
Good thought. No wasting time making vertical slices to play
Providing additional info for the newest PS5 rumor ...
I hope someone explains me how BC will work with that setup.
Here what I see would need to happen for BC:
In order to have PS4 BC you would need to disable 3 single WGPs in one SE and disable the other SE completely.
In order to have PS4 Pro BC you would to need disable 3 single WGPs in both SEs.
Question: why the fuck would Sony want BC with PS4 AND pro?? Shouldn't Pro BC be sufficient?
Not all games were patched up to PS4 Pro?
You should take that question to Sony :)
Yep.
Pro-Sony faction will vaunt SSD speeds. Pro-Xbox will tout TFs.
The truth is that it will not matter. Both Sony and MS are going for balanced systems within a budget.
I'm sure they'll figure out a way to do an awesome online event.
I just think most players don't realize that "load time" is an antiquated term and for most games you are always loading. Most games, especially open ended or open world games, you are streaming in data non stop. It's not just getting your initial boot and persistent data, but also just assets loading in non stop as you move from one zone to another. Streaming is nothing new, but it's now more prevalent than ever with open world design being as big as it is. And average asset size is getting much bigger, with many maps (and sometimes animations, if they aren't animated through shaders) needed per textured asset.
In my very humble opinion, fast drives are the real game changer for this generation. The faster we can get them, the better. Granted that at least some of this is going to seem subtle at first ("hey my game booted up faster than last gen...that's cool!") but under the hood it's going to be a huge enabler.
In my very humble opinion, fast drives are the real game changer for this generation. The faster we can get them, the better. Granted that at least some of this is going to seem subtle at first ("hey my game booted up faster than last gen...that's cool!") but under the hood it's going to be a huge enabler.
Thats why I think there is hardware decompression. You make a call for data, it is decompressed and put into memory without (or barely) touching the CPU (one of the benefits of NVMe)
That is one of the reason i looking forward to up coming GDC talks .
To see what changes devs do to the engines that now that they have super fast SSD .
we already saw some early examples of this in action. I remember Sony showing that in Spider-Man, the players max speed is actually the max speed the game can handle, and then they showed the max speed of the new SSD and it allows for much, much faster movement through the game world.
edit: here it is
old news but it illustrates your point pretty well.
Ohh ok sorry I don't play console. But I don't think Sony has detailed their BC solution?
What if they don't need to disable anything for BC? Just like current PC, they use the same arch so it should be do-able.
Sony's spiderman demo where they stream the world at the speed of a jet was the most insane thing ive ever seen in my 3 decades of gaming.
the possibilities are endless and i do find it funny that some folks think this is about loading times.
hey listen if you wanna trade avatars maybe you can take my chicken turkey vulture lol
We are going by their BC patents which were in line with what they did on the Pro; Disabling CUs and lowering clock speeds to match legacy hardware.
Well it still is I'm presuming that in a game like Gran Turismo loading screens will basically be like a fade to black and back again and there you go the track is loaded in a couple of seconds. Maybe even quicker. That's a huge difference for even just that one game. It's going to be very cool indeed. For sure though the SSD will do a lot more than just that, presumably game fidelity for open world games is going to get ridiculous too since you can use far more of the RAM for immediate surroundings than you could before because more distant stuff had to be kept in memory whereas now the speed negates that.
Still it has gotten to point where people think it fact that they will do it that way on PS5.
There nothing to say Sony did not come up with a way they can just disable how many CU the want from full chip to get BC or some other way .
The Spider-Man demo illustrates one of the biggest benefits beyond the data transfer.
Remember Spider-Man is almost entirely open world which means the SSD solution would have to have seek times that are crazy.
Not only would I take that...thing, I would give you $2 lol. Strangers coughing gross me out.
Well, for some reason my Pro sounds much louder than it normally does when playing the new COD Battle Royale mode. Can't wait to have a whisper quiet system to play on.
I mean, I find this weird callout post far more embarrasing.
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