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PS5 Speculation |OT12| - Aw hell, Transistor's running this again?
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By the way does anyone else beside thuway wanna take a bet with me? ;-) I bet PS5 will bear the GitHub specs, and you may bet on anything else. If I lose I wear each of your avatar of choice for a week, If I win you each wear avatar chosen by me for a month. Sounds fun?
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Sure, I'll bet it's higher.
In addition to avatar, why not under the table I'll buy you a PS5 if it's GitHub specs, you'll buy me one if it's not.
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Umm.. firstly. He just wrote on this very thread not so long ago.
Secondly, whatever he says about Era, does it change the fact as to whether what he posted was true or not? If it's truth, it deserves discussion. We entertain 36CU PS5's... but a dev says it's 56CU with tangible evidence justifying an ignored Github piece of evidence (36CU BC, we dont know total CU count on Oberon) and a 2Ghz clock that proves Klee right deserves to be discussed. Not sure why some here are trying hard to sideline this info... in favor of 36CU PS5. This information puts perspective to what testing Github data actually proves. No matter what, if what Odium says is true, it deserves discussion and exposure.
who is Odium? and why can't whatever he said be discussed?
I know I'm a little late to this post, but to reiterate what I've said other times in the previous OT's:
Since XOX launched, as a Pro owner, I've had to deal with plenty of third part games releasing with either scaled back graphics, or performance issues, or straight up no enhancements beyond the PS4 base version launched for Pro. If third parties simply don't care to push each hardware as far as they can go unless it's the fastest of the bunch (ie: how XBO and base PS4 were at the beginning of the gen) and leave issues on the table for whichever lags behind, then a 9.2tf - 12tf number is absolutely worrying to me.
When it comes down to "what can be done with that 2.8tf left over?" it could ABSOLUTELY be used to help soften the blow of a performance gulf. If next gen I am going to once again get great first party games (let's be honest they'll be amazing and I am grateful) but I know that my third party purchases are going to look or feel assy because they're being optimized around the 12tf competitor, I'm going to be frustrated and it's going to sour my experience as well as my opinions of the third parties.
**Note: PC/XSX not an option here for me from an ecosystem and budget perspective so let's not even go down that road.**
Apparently he is verified here here and other other place, but posted negative things about Era.. and that is reason to ignore a verified Era dev's information.
It's discussed here.
PlayStation 5 To Feature 11 TFLOPS GPU With 52 CUs, Clocked At 1743MHz - Rumor
A verified game developer recentrly posted a riddle on the NeoGAF forums regarding the PlayStation 5 specs, and some users think they have solved it
wccftech.com
I can take the bet as well. I think it will be within 10% of XSX TF.
I think the PS5 and XSX will be close, but I can't take the avatar bet because I have to wear this shame vehicle until the PS5 is released...
They fudged the maths.It's discussed here.
PlayStation 5 To Feature 11 TFLOPS GPU With 52 CUs, Clocked At 1743MHz - Rumor
A verified game developer recentrly posted a riddle on the NeoGAF forums regarding the PlayStation 5 specs, and some users think they have solved it
It's discussed here.
PlayStation 5 To Feature 11 TFLOPS GPU With 52 CUs, Clocked At 1743MHz - Rumor
A verified game developer recentrly posted a riddle on the NeoGAF forums regarding the PlayStation 5 specs, and some users think they have solved it
When was the last time that significant industry leaks were delivered to us in bird language?
The Assassin's Creed/Ubisoft plane story from way back is the furthest I'm willing to stretch my disbelief.
oooh, a verified game developer, that must mean they have access to some of the most closely guarded sekrits in the industry
You are going to lose, there's no way that those specs are the final PS5.
I'd bet as well, but I'm scheduled to get an avatar of shame later on tonight.
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Fudged or not I'm going with xsex being 52 at 1800 and change since that's kinda in the middle of the 48CU and 56CU stuff floating around. If PS5 is near that, good.
The best type. The one from a verified developer. The one that is funny. The one that has both systems close.
Yeah 11 tflop sounds great an all but the whole presentation of bird talk and riddles, love it, lawd what time we live in.
You seem to have misunderstood me, but I re-read what I posted and I thought it was pretty clear: He isn't interested in discussion here. You asked him to re-post here and I told you that he's not all that impressed with us. This isn't about the discussion of his information, this is about your attempt to draw him into the discussion. I wasn't sure if you knew about his apparent views towards our discussion or not and wanted to point it out.
So, lets back down a few steps. He's presented no tangible evidence for his claims because there are no receipts. I personally think 52CU is much more reasonable than 36CU and I stated that in response to you earlier. But posting a clever card only puts the spotlight on him, turning him into a celebrity and fueling more speculation. However, it ultimately gives us no objective facts.
Depending on what kind of dev you are. Bird devs definitely need to know.
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Chris Charla on Twitter
“I love working at Xbox and Microsoft, but some days the people are so funny and awesome, it's just super fun.”
twitter.com
anyine got the context for this ?
God I hope that rumor turns out to be true..
11.6 tf - 12tf RDNA2 .. paired with VRS, improved reconstruction techniques, experience with x86 platform and coding to the metal. Not to mention a proper CPU this time. I think people are not ready for the jump in quality that's coming our way...
Imagine what Naughty Dog, Santa Monica, Sucker Punch, 343, The Coalition could achieve with all of this..
11.6 tf - 12tf RDNA2 .. paired with VRS, improved reconstruction techniques, experience with x86 platform and coding to the metal. Not to mention a proper CPU this time. I think people are not ready for the jump in quality that's coming our way...
Imagine what Naughty Dog, Santa Monica, Sucker Punch, 343, The Coalition could achieve with all of this..
Chris Charla on Twitter
“I love working at Xbox and Microsoft, but some days the people are so funny and awesome, it's just super fun.”
anyine got the context for this ?
It sounds like he enjoys working at xbox and some days are extra fun.
It's actually 11.6 and he said Sony might clock higher. We could have what Klee said almost the same with PS5 getting the edge.
He likes his job?Chris Charla on Twitter
“I love working at Xbox and Microsoft, but some days the people are so funny and awesome, it's just super fun.”
anyine got the context for this ?
I really don't think it's "granular" or weird at all, what do you think an engine developer (for example) would use to target some console's capabilities? Like do you think they just receive a PS5/XBX dev kit with a card that says "Good luck!" or what?
At any case, he's backing up a little bit on what he said on that riddle apparently.
Bingo. You could invent an imaginary "Fused Multiply, Add, and Subtract Zero" instruction and claim that you're doing three operations but of course you'd get no more work done so it's a pointless numbers game at that point. Or you could dedicate a bunch of additional hardware to actually do three operations under rare conditions but then your CUs are larger, and the utilization would be too low to justify this tradeoff. There are good reasons for the number to be two and stay there, as you already need different dedicated logic for multiplication and addition, and this is just an efficient way to use it.
It is accurate so long as you realize that what it really represents is Instructions retired per clock cycle and has nothing to do with how long it takes an instruction to execute.
11.6TF for $500 is amazing. Sony really need more TF than MS ?
You cannot tell a difference between the two machines of its 11.6 and 12. That's a 3 percent difference. That's NOTHING.
Whoever has a faster ssd WINS in this case.
This one is usually bond to the context I guess. In the AMD patent filing I mentioned in my post, they give a IPC figure of 0.25, but I assume each SIMD pipeline in the GPU does commit one instruction every cycle? (A known exception is when RDNA runs in GCN mode, where at execution it splits one 64 wide SIMD instruction into two 32 wide ones)
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