No, that would take longer than the 3-6 additional months they'll have with a delay.
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No, that would take longer than the 3-6 additional months they'll have with a delay.
well the node shrink alone will get them 20% more die space and 10% more in power savings.
But I am working under the assumption that the 4 tflops Lockhart would replace the x1x.
Fair enough. As I said in my other comment, I don't believe it will run anything in 4K, and, IMO, it shouldn't. If it's a 1080p/1440 box, make it a 1080p/1440 box, don't confuse the message with some titles in 4K.
this is key for me, I'm impressed by XSX but not interested in leaving the PS ecosystem that I've build up over the last decade+.Depending on where PS5 comes in at and what the power is could determine which next gen console I get first. GamePass also will give me a instant library in the cheap.
If it's like this:
$600 XSX -12Tflops
$500 PS5 - 9Tflops
$300 XSS -4 Tflops
I'd just get the XSS to start the generation along with GamePass
consequentially if any of those factors were different price or performance wise I would get a PS5 instead.
Nope, what you are saying is blatantly wrong, NVIDIA uses boost clocks since ages ago, boost clocks is the rated operating speed of the card.
My guess is that they will offer some sort of plan, let's say XSS and three Years of Gamepass for 25$ a month for three years.
Klobrille dropping hints in the XGS thread. Sounds like we might not be hearing more until next week.
I was clearly sarcastic there lol. Going by the AMD RT patents it's safe to assume that their RT hardware resides inside the CUs, making the notion that you can "bolt RT into RDNA 1" to save money just silly to me.
Only 100 people get to have the new consoles in each launch country. In order to get one you must come to the respective HQ and fight the CEO in hand to hand combat. The winners will receive a console.
What's up with stuff like this? No one knows the Ps5 specs. Who says there's even anything to bump lol.
Do you think Sony will take the opportunity of a new gen to improve their ecosystem?
The fact they multiple accounts are needed on PlayStation to buy games from different regions is bad.
You end up like I did with 5 different accounts and with games scattered between them.
Then they have the whole CUSA versions thing when the save game data only works on a specific CUSA. So if I get a physical game, play it and then sell it and get a digital version, it has to be from the same region or the save won't work.
That and also the DLC has to be bought on the same region as the base game.
And if I have a secondary account just to buy games and play them on my main account, digital extras are not shared, so if I buy a deluxe or ultimate edition of the game, some of the extras are not usable on the main account.
nothing of this happens on the Xbox ecosystem where I have just one account and my account can have different digital wallets with different currencies and I can use one account to keep all my games and dlc regardless of the region they are bought from.
I really wish Sony could improve their ecosystem. But at the same time, I fear they are in too deep on their system to be able to change it, which is a shame.
what do you think? Can it be done? Or a re we stuck with these multiple accounts until PS10 and more?
The fact they multiple accounts are needed on PlayStation to buy games from different regions is bad.
You end up like I did with 5 different accounts and with games scattered between them.
Then they have the whole CUSA versions thing when the save game data only works on a specific CUSA. So if I get a physical game, play it and then sell it and get a digital version, it has to be from the same region or the save won't work.
That and also the DLC has to be bought on the same region as the base game.
And if I have a secondary account just to buy games and play them on my main account, digital extras are not shared, so if I buy a deluxe or ultimate edition of the game, some of the extras are not usable on the main account.
nothing of this happens on the Xbox ecosystem where I have just one account and my account can have different digital wallets with different currencies and I can use one account to keep all my games and dlc regardless of the region they are bought from.
I really wish Sony could improve their ecosystem. But at the same time, I fear they are in too deep on their system to be able to change it, which is a shame.
what do you think? Can it be done? Or a re we stuck with these multiple accounts until PS10 and more?
That's a hell of a tricky thing to fix without wiping everything and starting all over again. Which isn't to say it's impossible, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
just hypothetically, but Ms already announced 12tf.
If PS5 is indeed 9.2 tflops and gets delayed to 2021 and launches in 2021 with those same 9.2 tflops, how bad would that make Sony look?
I think it is because of different prices. On my Xbox I have multiple adresses saved so I can switch region and buy from there for less.
Edit: And yes different games also sometimes.
Yeah, that's true. Trying to dodge pricing in one owns country is something I've seen people doing. Buying from Russia and such.
I don't buy digital so that's the reason for the question. But I thought most titles would be available everywhere these days.
I think MS is waiting for RDNA 2.0 to be fully unveiled before announcing lockhart. More so if there is any confusion about numbers, they can be more detailed due to the RDNA 2.0 features finally being public. (im probably wrong though)
Also, they probably want to control what they talk about with lockhart and not have a narrative about a "lower" number to anyone trying to compare that to something of similar price. (cough one x cough)
i also could guess that the messaging would be similar to how they market different Versions of Phones and Vehicles.
Example :Series X is the fully loaded version while the Series S will be the base version. Both providing very similar upgrades/enhancements for next-gen, but also providing options a customer has. Difference will be form factor, price and GPU TF number. There are now plenty of different demographics to buy launch consoles than previous generations. So my previous thought process on just hardcore/enthusiasts vs casual is in the gutter now. there are multiple groups of people with similar buying habits that need to be accounted for and this method is what i usually see for a lot of products out there, not including the examples above.
Also, they probably want to control what they talk about with lockhart and not have a narrative about a "lower" number to anyone trying to compare that to something of similar price. (cough one x cough)
i also could guess that the messaging would be similar to how they market different Versions of Phones and Vehicles.
Example :Series X is the fully loaded version while the Series S will be the base version. Both providing very similar upgrades/enhancements for next-gen, but also providing options a customer has. Difference will be form factor, price and GPU TF number. There are now plenty of different demographics to buy launch consoles than previous generations. So my previous thought process on just hardcore/enthusiasts vs casual is in the gutter now. there are multiple groups of people with similar buying habits that need to be accounted for and this method is what i usually see for a lot of products out there, not including the examples above.
Most games should but there are games that might be banned or so.
All so you can flip it on eBay for twice the price.
it's because of pricing.
I have psn accounts for Portugal (my country), USA, Turkey, Indonesia and Canada.
sales and promotions are always different And then there is currency values so prices can vary.
That's $900 over 3 years... maybe if it was $20 then I would bite. Honestly might still even bite for the first 6 months at $25 and then just pay the full console off outright.
My mistake then. But scarcity driving up component cost is a supply/demand dynamic, which is important to differentiate from a supply chain issue.
Reports last year predicted component prices would rise this year, so there's no real surprise here, outside of the virus concerns. I.e. Sony could have anticipated this.
Yeah I feel like this is a massive point that isn't being talked about nearly enough.
If the mandate from MS says all games must be built for Series X and then ported down to Lockhart (and sort of let the chips fall where they may), doesn't that kind of instantly wipe out any fears of games being held back?
Yeah, but you couple the high price due to scarcity on top of the reduced factory output in China and it's a rough time to be planning a new console launch.
If the virus is still going strong at the height of summer then it's definitely going to hamper the release of PS5 and XSX.
that's just not how games get designed and would put a huge burden on developers
Honestly, is the virus is still going strong at the height of summer, then I can see next gen dropping a few hundreds positions in the list of our priorities :)
There'll be no such mandate. It would constrain developer options for dealing with the landscape, and it would be effectively unenforceable anyway. Who's to tell a developer they didn't 'start with Series X and downport', if they actually did the opposite for budget/time/development constraints? MS can't police development practice like that, they have to leave it to devs to decide what is best for their game and their development context.
Same. It's much more likely Sony is withholding information based on multiple factors, one of them mainly being this coronavirus and how it will be impacting the manufacturing and logistics in the months leading up to a new console release.
MS appears the same way as Sony. As a mention of upcoming products powered by AMD. And that is it.
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There's so many great ps4 exclusives out this year that i would prefer the ps5 to be delayed until autumn 2021 and this will give me a chance to play the new and old games i still have to play.
Series X will also suffer poor sales with everyone waiting for the ps5, which will be 14tf+ at launch.
Series X will also suffer poor sales with everyone waiting for the ps5, which will be 14tf+ at launch.
That assumes China is in the critical path for components. SoCs, memory and flash are all made primarily outside of China. China would mainly be in the final assembly supply chain, which is months away.
Yeah I see your point.
Before reading that post I was thinking of it as more of a suggestion from MS. Like theyre designating XSX as the 'lead' platform and telling devs to build games for that system and then scale back resolution/framerate as needed for Lockhart. But maybe that's much easier said then done even with the similar architect.
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