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PS5 Speculation |OT12| - Aw hell, Transistor's running this again?
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Maybe Sony is waiting the OT number to match the TF number of the PS5? They are doing another dimension of marketing. So the faster we go through OTs the quicker we can get PS5 information
It does seem nice, just as gyro is, hopefully they made it super simple to use that it actually gets used.
In my opinion biggest thing they can actually do is put a half decent battery in there to be able to get 20+ hrs of playtime or simply let you use AA batteries.
That's a big hit against the "Github is final specs" crowd.
I haven't posted updated predictions since OT7, so here's what I've got for the new OT:
PS5
CPU: 8c/16t Zen 2 @ 3.2 - 3.3 GHz, 8 MB L3
GPU: 9.2 - 11.3 TF. Custom RDNA (hybrid of 1 and 2): VRS, AMD RT
Memory (total): 16GB @ 512-576 GB/s GDDR6
SSD: 3,500 - 7,000 MB/s
Price: $399-499
Series X:
CPU: 8c/16t Zen 2 @ 3.4 - 3.6 GHz, 16MB L3
GPU: 12.01 - 12.4 TF. RDNA 2.0: VRS, AMD RT(+), Mesh shaders
Memory (total): 16 - 20 GB @ 560 - 620 GB/s GDDR6
SSD: 2,000 - 4,000 MB/s
Price: $499
Series S:
CPU: 8c/16t Zen 2 @ 3.1 - 3.4 GHz, 16MB L3
GPU: 4.3 - 5.3 TF. RDNA 2.0: VRS, AMD RT(+), Mesh shaders
Memory (total): 12 - 16 GB @ 336 - 448 GB/s GDDR6
SSD: 2,000 - 4,000 MB/s
Price: $299
PS5
CPU: 8c/16t Zen 2 @ 3.2 - 3.3 GHz, 8 MB L3
GPU: 9.2 - 11.3 TF. Custom RDNA (hybrid of 1 and 2): VRS, AMD RT
Memory (total): 16GB @ 512-576 GB/s GDDR6
SSD: 3,500 - 7,000 MB/s
Price: $399-499
Series X:
CPU: 8c/16t Zen 2 @ 3.4 - 3.6 GHz, 16MB L3
GPU: 12.01 - 12.4 TF. RDNA 2.0: VRS, AMD RT(+), Mesh shaders
Memory (total): 16 - 20 GB @ 560 - 620 GB/s GDDR6
SSD: 2,000 - 4,000 MB/s
Price: $499
Series S:
CPU: 8c/16t Zen 2 @ 3.1 - 3.4 GHz, 16MB L3
GPU: 4.3 - 5.3 TF. RDNA 2.0: VRS, AMD RT(+), Mesh shaders
Memory (total): 12 - 16 GB @ 336 - 448 GB/s GDDR6
SSD: 2,000 - 4,000 MB/s
Price: $299
4K image looks better on 1080P tv than 1080p image, things are supersampled.
As of June 2019 31% of households had at least one 4K screen. By time consoles are released I'm sure that the number will be around 50%.
Then there is supposedly going to be 1440p console Xbox series S
Yes, that's a separate feature and if used by game devs could be decent. As I mentioned in another post gyro in DS4 was advanced great stuff as was Kinect, but it wasn't used enough in meaningful ways.
those are 3 excellent machines, especially if sony can keep the cost down.
He also said it was public knowledge and wether it's AMD RT or which RDNA is not public knowledge, just that they are powered by AMD GPUs.
And I said it before it is highly likely that they are using AMD RT, RDNA2 doesn't make sense for Sony or MS to me. RDNA1 with added features from 2 is what makes economical sense to me, especially RDNA2 release date being unknown and RDNA1 having been delayed.
Why do you think MS does not have a custom chip? That actually is the strangest prediction I have ever seen.
If indeed ps5 soc is smaller I think more probable is that ps5 cpu clocks also will be higher than xsx
Again? Sorry if I'm trying to keep up same level of scrutiny as for every other place, or should we make an exception because it would be news for PS? What happened to "Navi was made for Sony"?
Besides did he say or insinuate that both consoles are based on RDNA2 even if they both use AMD RT? Don't forget that PS4 and Xbox one are based on GCN1, but also borrow features from GCN2. In case of those consoles having features from GCN2 didn't make them GCN2, so why should different rules apply now?
I think MS is in a weird place with how much they can improve/change their controller because of the existence of the Elite line. If they add too many *must have* features to Series X they will risk obsolescing their Elite controllers and alienating their whales. Sony is in a much better position to introduce new input ideas and they've already indicated that.
i was kidding. there is no audio issue with the video on my side.
Analog foundry videos are the best too bad sony ninjas are too fast.
Probably won't be utilised very much, just like all of those platform specific features.
Based on language from before MS announced RDNA 2.0 in their consoles from both I will continue to speculate that Sony is on 1.5 or whatever you want to call a hybrid as the quoted video doesn't really confirm anything we didn't know.
Both are Radeon GPUs
Both have RT
It could be, but it hasn't been confirmed by anyone yet. He said it is public knowledge that both Sony and MS consoles are powered by Radeon, that is nothing new said there that we didn't already know. I'm really not sure how some people just jump into conclusions how GPU being AMD=RDNA2 based lol. Also didn't Klee mention that RT was different? Would GPU stop being Radeon if Sony had AMD put Sony/3rd party designed RT in it? They are semi custom so anything can go.
And you do know that RT is not the only RDNA2 feature right? Just having RT that is also in RDNA2 GPUs doesn't make such device RDNA2.
I've already explained this: PS4 is based on GCN1, yet it has some GCN2 features in it, and it is widely reffered to as being GCN1.5 as it didn't have all of GCN2 features.
So it is really not a rocket science to conclude that simply even having AMD RT doesn't make PS5 chip automatically RDNA2.
Ehhh, using the trigger tension for a different feel when shooting different guns feels like something that could be implemented in pretty much any shooter, but we'll see what happens.
I said this on Reddit, but I'm worried a default inclusion of paddles on the DS5 is going to work against Sony. This seems to be what the attachment is pointing towards. By bundling it in by default it will increase the price of the box and to be honest I highly doubt it's something the casual gamer will use / want.
So does that debunk the 9.2tf for the PS5 or are we still thinking the RDNA2 GPU for the PS5 is 36CU?
If you are referring to weird / difficult to really use feature (touchscreen of DS 4 for exemple), yes.
Adaptative trigger, if easy to use, can be a feature dev liked. If they liked it they will probably used it.
Eh, why not? Dissapointment has no taste for me at this point.Final Roll Call for Team 14 tflops. Who is with their captain?
Here we go again, another thread of madness. :D
Xbox One gamepad has a vibration on its triggers.
DS5 reportedly has true force feedback on triggers [force pushing the finger back], and both analogue stick have "haptic feedback" motors that can emulate various surfaces/game elements [different surfaces, bouncy bridge, etc].
Xbox One gamepad has a vibration on its triggers.
DS5 reportedly has true force feedback on triggers [force pushing the finger back], and both analogue stick have "haptic feedback" motors that can emulate various surfaces/game elements [different surfaces, bouncy bridge, etc].
Most 3rd party games don't use the Xbox triggers as the 1st party ones do, same with the touch pad and the speakers, the Ps2's analog buttons, the Six axis functions and outside controller 3rd parties don't use most of the Xbox and PS4's OS specific features either.
which is a shame , as many of those things are really cool.
I'm not saying that the DS5 triggers aren't gonna be cool, but experience tells me that we will see it in launch titles when it's the new hotness, then it falls by the wayside as developers prioritise resources on more valuable things.
The facted it didn't had RT already confirmed the 36 CU wasn't the whole thing.
So yes before and yes after. But people will still say no.
Ed Boon seems excited so who knows plus Xbox might have something similar
You an insider or got info from official sources claiming such thing?
I bet that haptics will be used more now that both have it. I really couldn't imagine playing racing game without having that tire grip slipping feeling lol.
That really sucks - I thought enhanced triggers would make for much more logical implementations than esoteric features that require you to make whole new actions and mechanics.
Do you mind if I ask why it *seems* like devs are on board with the platform-specific features of the Switch but not so much with other platforms?
Gyro aim gets a lot of love on this forum and is possible with DS4 yet it's not something you see on PS4 for some odd reason.
EDIT: your opinion on this phenomenon, not that you specifically know.
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The controller (which history suggests will one day be called the DualShock 5, though Cerny just says "it doesn't have a name yet") does have some features Cerny's more interested in acknowledging. One is "adaptive triggers" that can offer varying levels of resistance to make shooting a bow and arrow feel like the real thing—the tension increasing as you pull the arrow back—or make a machine gun feel far different from a shotgun. It also boasts haptic feedback far more capable than the rumble motor console gamers are used to, with highly programmable voice-coil actuators located in the left and right grips of the controller.
Combined with an improved speaker on the controller, the haptics can enable some astonishing effects. First, I play through a series of short demos, courtesy of the same Japan Studio team that designed PlayStation VR's Astro Bot Rescue Mission. In the most impressive, I ran a character through a platform level featuring a number of different surfaces, all of which gave distinct—and surprisingly immersive—tactile experiences. Sand felt slow and sloggy; mud felt slow and soggy. On ice, a high-frequency response made the thumbsticks really feel like my character was gliding. Jumping into a pool, I got a sense of the resistance of the water; on a wooden bridge, a bouncy sensation.
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Exclusive: A Deeper Look at the PlayStation 5
Now that the name is official, we've got more details about Sony's next-gen console—from the haptics-packed controller to UI improvements.
Force feedback for triggers, and two new highly precise vibration motors, connected to analogue sticks.
It looks like we are loosing the full blown "entire controller is vibrating" rumble, but we are getting transformative new tech that can directly impact the gameplay [or at least, offer better immersion].
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