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PS5 Speculation |OT12| - Aw hell, Transistor's running this again?
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The way the conversation and the "consensus" forms around various rumors here is hilarious. Even the tiniest implication is enough to "confirm" some aspects of the specs. First the Github leak was all but certain. Then there was some wavering as the numbers and elements being tested (or not tested) were scrutinized. Then Sony's silence and MS revealing tf numbers all but confirmed the Github leak again. Now we're back to another old-ass rumor. Looking forward to when we're back to the Github leak. >_>
Please Sony. The people in this thread are going insane.
Please Sony. The people in this thread are going insane.
naw, let's drop it. It was on a small pointless matter which i saw that as a bet, and you clearly didnt. So it was my fault for having that perception.
I am not surprised this is coming from you.
Hmm, let's see ...
Dec 2019, I changed from parity to console specific prediction, see below. Not that off, when we think about where the discussion and the specs are now.
Next-gen PS5 and next Xbox speculation launch thread |OT8| - The Dark Tower (See Staff Post)
Back. End of an Era - Banned for a meme. Decided to come back with something meaningful. Here it is! My updated prediction. Base: for Xbox: Xbox was easy. They already outlined the specs by multipliers. 2 times power of the Xbox One X GPU . What ever it is, as a firm value it will...www.resetera.com
I would like you stay a little bit closer to what happened ...
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Bonus content below
PlayStation 5 Rumors: 2 GHz Radeon Navi GPU, February 2020 Unveil
Serial hardware leaker @Komachi has returned with some news on Sony’s upcoming console. The PlayStation 5 utilizes a Navi-based APU codenamed Oberon, and one of the engineering samples is supposedly clocked at 2 GHz. BREAKING: THIS IS PS5. According to this leak- the GPU will be clocked at an...www.thefpsreview.com
Well, if you keep changing them to reflect what gets announced you are bound to be right eventually...
It's very clear that this guy doesn't say or post anything he doesn't believe to be true and has gone through lengths to verify with his multitude of sources.
You believe ps5 will be max 9.7 TF? Welp.I am not surprised this is coming from you.
Hmm, let's see ...
Dec 2019, I changed from parity to console specific prediction, see below. Not that off, when we think about where the discussion and the specs are now.
Next-gen PS5 and next Xbox speculation launch thread |OT8| - The Dark Tower (See Staff Post)
Back. End of an Era - Banned for a meme. Decided to come back with something meaningful. Here it is! My updated prediction. Base: for Xbox: Xbox was easy. They already outlined the specs by multipliers. 2 times power of the Xbox One X GPU . What ever it is, as a firm value it will...
I would like you stay a little bit closer to what happened ...
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Bonus content below
PlayStation 5 Rumors: 2 GHz Radeon Navi GPU, February 2020 Unveil
Serial hardware leaker @Komachi has returned with some news on Sony’s upcoming console. The PlayStation 5 utilizes a Navi-based APU codenamed Oberon, and one of the engineering samples is supposedly clocked at 2 GHz. BREAKING: THIS IS PS5. According to this leak- the GPU will be clocked at an...
This was way before the specs were out. The change came because of Github. Go search Twitter I posted it even earlier there. Before the TGAs btw.
But yes, in May 2019 I predicted lower ... that is why I lost my first bet.
Same thing here 😂 I know november is far away with 8 months left. I guess now in 2020 a lot can be happen with a product with 8 months or are they perhaps redesigning the whole thing due to SX?
I'm starting to get more and more pissed with Sony. Why are they whisper quiet and don't talk to their fans? I have both SX and Ps5 preordered but this silence from Sony is killing me slowly and to be frank I feel kind of disturbed. One company talking loudly about their plans for the future, showing off their design and vision. Another company being completely silent.
People look at fucking numbers and don't care for theoretically more powerful because better architecture. Come the fuck on now.
User Warned: Console warring
PlayStation fanboys losing it because more people get to play their precious exclusives.
I am very interested in how the game looks at console settings but at native 4K, since I love their upscaling on the PS4 pro.
Edit: I truly meant this as a joke, I am a PlayStation fan myself and I love the idea that more people get to enjoy Sony games. But I understand how this sounded wrong and that I was antagonizing people. This was not my intention and I am sorry for that.
I am very interested in how the game looks at console settings but at native 4K, since I love their upscaling on the PS4 pro.
Edit: I truly meant this as a joke, I am a PlayStation fan myself and I love the idea that more people get to enjoy Sony games. But I understand how this sounded wrong and that I was antagonizing people. This was not my intention and I am sorry for that.
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The more info we got the more I narrowed down my prediction until my final one which is 9TF. I like full integers :)
You saw the bonus content?
You were all in for 9.2 TF too. Even in August 2019. What happened? At that point in time the Andrew Reiner and Jason Schreier statement about Stadia was already out.
I played the game at release it changes nothing, it does not tarnish my past experience.
The SSD and CPU alone make Lockhart a massive upgrade over Xbox One X. Then you factor in a RDNA2 GPU with raytracing and it's not even a competition.
In Terms of appeal Think of Lockhart as a successor to X1S while XSX is for those who must have top of the line.
What is your basis for saying 1440p games will dip below 30 fps? And even if late gen 1440p games did dip below 30 fps, if the resolution drop is proportional to the GPUs capabilities, then the performance will be the same between the two systems.
You can have your prediction, but the switch comparison is simply disingenuous. We can compare a 12TF gpu with 4TF gpu right now and have them both run demanding games like Star Citizen, and have resolution be the only difference in performance - and that game isn't even optimized like your typical console game will be.
If you believe XSX and PS5 users on 4K TVs would be fine with 1440p games , then why wouldn't a Lockhart owner on a 1080p TV be ok with a 720p game?
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That last bit is interesting.... any chance it can be something other than PS5 related?Some minor things that may be of interest.
Source: https://nabshow.com/2020/explore/on...-pavilions-and-theaters/streaming-experience/
NAB is not a gaming oriented show and does rarely feature any news on PlayStation/Xbox. Given the above mention of Xbox and PlayStation in a streaming experience context, I suppose there's a slight chance of something new. The form factor of Xbox Series X is already revealed, and with more information on the system coming March 18, I could see Xbox Series X being at NAB Show 2020 in some form. Whether PS5 could be shown in this streaming experience is entirely dependent on when the system will be (fully) revealed. Sony has a press conference on Sunday, April 19, but I wouldn't count on that to feature much, if anything, on PS5. At the same time, not much was expected from CES 2020 and that gave us the PS5 logo. If you want to watch Sony's NAB Show 2019 press conference, it's available here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fM05afkM1TA
Sony Hall has private events on March 25, 27 and 30. Probably not worth getting worked up about, but I suppose could do well for a smaller reveal event for a very select crowd.
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Check out all of the live shows that are on the horizon at Sony Hall on our calendar. Artists from multiple genres perform at our NYC venue.www.sonyhall.com
EDIT: Looking again, there's waaaaaayyyyy too many of those mf's on the list
Nah, he said we wouldn't even be able to tell the difference between them.
That is cut and dry.
What luck those specifics were never part of my prediction ... :p
to be fair, jason didnt do himself any favors by walking back his 10.7+ tflops comments almost immediately. I have had that post of his thrown back at me for almost a year now.
He did something similar with his >rtx 2080 comments by adding so many qualifiers in front of it, people were easily able to dismiss them as his own thoughts.
i believed him then and i believe him now. he might not want us spreading these rumors around, but it doesnt mean he didnt hear those things from devs in the industry. especially when the stuff he heard lines up with what other journalists have heard. klee, reiner and others.
You know what happen.
If you have something to say just say, if a console comes at 12 TF with 500$ it is obvious peopel want the other too.
12tf rdna2 can happen for ps5 but it will be expensive and the size of the series x. If you think that's what sony would want to target then theres deffo a chance it will be 12tf.
Look at the size of a ps5 dev kit, it's as large as the ps4 one to me. Maybe a little larger.
I dont think Sony has been over 400 dollars even with the pro? They know that worked for them and a 600/500 dollar ps3 didnt.
Logically I dont think they want to risk rocking that boat again but with Corona they may have to settle for 450-500 dollars.
I'll laugh really hard if 720p is a thing on Lockhart (I don't think it will be). What is this, 2005? 720p was unacceptable in 2013 on Xbox One, and it amazed me how people lowered their standards in order to defend it.
whats my basis? like half of the games released last year had performance issues and struggled to hit 30 fps. check borderlands, anthem, control and star wars to start off.
this is true for pretty much every gen. even tlou which was a first party exclusive had drops. gta5 ran like shit. best looking game last gen but ran below 30 fps.
star citizen started dev in 2012. its not a next gen game. you keep calling my switch comparison disingenuous but are bringing up a game that started dev when the most powerful card we had was a 3 tflops 680. lets see what happens when we get a game that uses 12 tflops as base.
and i literally said that some people will be ok with 720p games didnt i? switch gamers are happy. DF is happy with 360p ports of games. which is odd to me because they used to make a massive deal about 680p versions of PS3 games that ran at native 720p on xbox 360. im sure some people will be happy with those compromises. but it doesnt mean those compromises wont be drastic.
Jason does this because he was angry someone uses his comment about next-generation consoles and Stadia to do an article. This is why he does not post often in Resetera. And I suppose he uses whispers and rumormongers and other things everywhere, he does not want anyone to use his tweet or post to do an article.
EDIT: When he will be ready he will probably do his own article.
Just because A announces a higher spec than anticipated doesn't mean B changing their plans that became visible through a data leak that is referenced in the tweet, though at the time we did not know that the data was from that leak. Makes it even more strange if you look into the recent post history of him and his fight for the data is inaccurate.
It's safe to assume anything Jason Schreier tweets is reliable. Anyone who says otherwise isn't paying attention.
I did here and on twitter. I even mentioned the node lol ...
PS5 and Xbox Series speculation |OT11| Cry Havoc and Let Slip the Dogs of War [NEW NEWS, NEW THREAD - CHECK OUT THE STAFF POST]
Time to provide my last prediction LOL While I did not have to change anything on the Xbox side (Spec now confirmed for TFs) it is my final prediction for Sony PS5 now. Have fun ... Edit: Both will use a 7nm node for manufacturing the chips. Not 7nm+!
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Zhuge and bloomberg have both reported that the BOM is $450. thats $70 more than the PS4. if you think all of that went into SSD and cooling then i dont know what to tell you. Cerny knows GPU is the most important thing in a console.
Also a $450 console wont be $399. it probably wont even be $450. just like how that $381 bom ps4 didnt retail for $381.
March 25 is curious because a Rockstar insider on GTAForums which are supposedly very strictly moderated teased March 25th as the announcement date for GTA6.
Is this statement necessary? LOL. Come now, we haven't had specs leak yet to warrant console warring.
Nonetheless, I'm almost tempted to double dip just to increase texture filtering and LOD and most importantly run at 60FPS.
I'll buy it just for preservation. Probably on a deal, I already bought the game twice, Collector's Edition, and GOTY version. 😊
He said they will be similar that you can not tell the difference...
If nothing else, Horizon on PC may be the only way to run the game at native 4K/60 when you have the right hardware assuming PS4 BC on PS5 is simply a straight BC with no enhancements
I think he meant they'd be similar enough that their respective "sauces" would make such that one wasn't clearly more performant than the other.
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