I know it sounds pretty selfish but I really hope coronavirus doesnt end up impacting enough people to warrant delaying the next gen console launch. Id rather there be a limited launch with supply constraints than a delay honestly.
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are the animations better? if yes, guage rating? if yes, tell me more.
GIF maker has seen the PS5, but will die before Cerny gets the chance to reveal it.I'm gonna go ahead and post it. It's from another site from our own BGs.
If it's against the rules shut it down Transistor
This is his interpretation of what he thinks of Sony's situation
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Have they done any overhaul in terms of graphics, animation or design? Can you instantly see it's running on next-gen hardware?
The longer period from last Klee post the less team Klee supporters but thats normal I guess, if he would post something today we will have different narrative
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I feel you. The hostility and circling-back was one of the main reasons I stepped in here in the first place. Things will calm down when Sony announces their stuff.
Until then?
We're watching, so play nice everyone, mmkay?
Wasn't Klee supposed to come back after February? Or until the PS5 reveal?
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There you go, the answer is all the time or more precisely pattern is every other release.
If it's true they will be happy. If not true they will be happy too.
Things will never calm down. Maybe a year into next gen. Things are only going to get worse up until release.
If not him I would be certain ps5 is 9.2tf and if it's really 9.2 I would be dissapointed because of him :dim with klee till
Reveal date is the easiest to change (not tied to event schedule, financial calendar etc.), and the most likely to change (games aren't ready, policies not defined) because you want to provide a good show with a strong, clear message.
I don't think there's a single insider; solid ones.. possibly fake ones.. who hasn't said the 9.2 TF is bunk.
Get out of here with your misinformation, it's actually dual 9.2 TF GPU's powering the system.
Again with incomplete data? I thought I asked you to pay attention to actual clocks of the GPUs you are claiming are 15% higher.
I guess you can't help yourself but try to skew the results in some way.
You claimed that Turing TF is 15% more efficient than Navi, so why are you not accounting for thermal design and actual clock differences in your tests?
I already stated that in my opinion Nvidia GPU is better due to better thermal design and cards reaching much higher than stated clocks. We all know that AMD tries to inflate their numbers and Nvidia deflate theirs so we must somehow account for that when testing ACTUAL TF performance differences and not theoretical no?
If TU106 was designed for 1410MHz and was overclocked to 1500MHz and loses to RX5700 that is also overclocked to 1500MHz removing all the inconsistencies in advertising what does that tell you?
When you say something along the lines like 5 Nvidia TF perform 15% better than 5 Navi TF means you need to set both cards at that rate and make sure they don't go over or under and then perform the test otherwise you are testing everything else besides what you claimed.
I haven't seen a more accurate test out there testing pure TF performance differences than the one I showed you a screenshot of.
I like it, was one running better than the other might be safer to answer.
What are the main differences?
Bigger / less homogenous crowds?
Better player gfx?
Ray traced floodlights?!
Reasons I think Github is irrelevant to final PS5 specs:
1 I believe the PS5 is RDNA 2.0.
2. I don't think RDNA 2.0 was ready when they began spinning up the first version of Oberon. And even if it was, I don't think four model revisions, each with it's own model number, is some insignificant change that wouldn't result in an increase to CU's.
3. I agree with anexanhume that if Sony was targeting 8-9 TF's, they did so knowing that MS was targeting 12 TF's, and I don't think that's believable.
Could I be wrong? Sure, but I don't think I am.
This thread is always a ride.
There's a ton of information and speculation on all sides, but the one reason I think PS5 will be double digit TF is simply to match or exceed Stadia. There are tons of ways to make PS5 an incredible and balanced machine at 9TF, but people are going to be non stop about that number if it's under Stadia's.
There's a ton of information and speculation on all sides, but the one reason I think PS5 will be double digit TF is simply to match or exceed Stadia. There are tons of ways to make PS5 an incredible and balanced machine at 9TF, but people are going to be non stop about that number if it's under Stadia's.
I think he's just trolling... not worth wasting your time.
Tbh I too expected RDNA to be architecturally inferior than Turing, that's not about RT and machine learning stuff, but rather some architectural improvements on shader execution since Volta. But here they are! What a pleasant surprise.
See Ronin, i dont care for this. github, hbm, sony's reveal plans or lack thereof are all valid discussion points and trying to stifle them will have the Streisand effect and then result in mass bannings. who wants that?
now you've got mods involved and are pressuring them to react and start banning people because you view their criticisms of sony's marketing strategy as 'concern trolling'.
you wont be able to keep out the github truthers from the divorced thread either. there is nothing stopping them. i am a sony fan and as we approach e3 which sony has refused to attend, i will be talking about their complete PR silence in that thread. so what then? will you start banning sony fans from that thread?
we are in the end game now. once the specs are revealed, it's all over. the party ends. we all disperse. there is no reason for this thread or this community anymore. we will have to go into the first party threads and i dont know about you, but i'd rather slit my wrists. lets enjoy our final days together without trying to get each other banned over a difference of opinion.
But the thing is that alleged ~9 TF Navi class GPU in PS5 is better then 10.7 TF Vega GCN class in Stadia.
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I like the way you think. Except the wrist-slitting part. That sounds bad.
I love how people keep referring to how he said it has more teraflops (10.7) than Stadia. But then forget that right after he says this:
"Anyway, I don't know for sure what next-gen specs will look like. I have no idea how many teraflops there'll be. A dev recently told me that a lot of people within studios are just making assumptions based on limited information, and that one of the assumptions is that everything's going to be twice as powerful. "
If anything, the twice as powerful assumption is aging well.
Yeah, totally, but the number is smaller. Haha. It's ridiculous, but I actually think now that things got boiled down to some dumb number in 4000 pt bold font on a screen, there is a danger that word of mouth just starts spreading that it's "even weaker than Stadia of all things!"
I also just believe the other insiders that Series X and PS5 will be close, too.
Of course...much improved CPU gives you much more advanced AI.
I did a little research and to make a GPU from the ground up first requires a Product Requirement Specification. That alone takes 6 months and is only the first of 8 steps in the process.
https://www.techradar.com/news/computing-components/graphics-cards/how-gpus-are-made-1000923
I'm expecting the PS5 to be within the ballpark of the Series X when it comes to TFlops. If there's a difference for or against the PS5 compared to the XSX, I'd imagine that it'll be minor (Ex: 11.6 TF for PS5 vs. 12 TF for XSX). Either way, I'd imagine that the PS5 will be in the double digits.
Well, there it is... Straight from the horse's mouth.
That is Mithun Chandrasekhar, AMD lead product manager, speaking in the video.
Some people doubted below article's credibility (myself included). Now it should be pretty clear.
www.techquila.co.in
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That is Mithun Chandrasekhar, AMD lead product manager, speaking in the video.
Some people doubted below article's credibility (myself included). Now it should be pretty clear.
AMD Ray Tracing Will Arrive "When The Time is Right" - Next-Gen Raytracing Addressed
AMD has said in a recent briefing that raytracing will arrive on their cards "when the time is right". Here's what that means.
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If the question form is enabled by default I do not know, nor if it will be available during AMD's Financial Analyst Day 2020 tomorrow March 5, from 1:00 PM to 6:00 PM PST. But hopefully participants will be able to ask questions. This is obviously reserved for analysts, but anyone can access the webcast.
Perhaps with a little luck we could get some new PS5 information during this.
Great to see you back - your OT posts were filled to overflowing with much appreciated links and info
Well, there it is... Straight from the horse's mouth.
That is Mithun Chandrasekhar, lead product manager, speaking in the video.
Some people doubted below article's credibility (myself included). Now it should be pretty clear.
AMD Ray Tracing Will Arrive "When The Time is Right" - Next-Gen Raytracing Addressed
AMD has said in a recent briefing that raytracing will arrive on their cards "when the time is right". Here's what that means.
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what exactly?
Well, there it is... Straight from the horse's mouth.
That is Mithun Chandrasekhar, lead product manager, speaking in the video.
Some people doubted below article's credibility (myself included). Now it should be pretty clear.
AMD Ray Tracing Will Arrive "When The Time is Right" - Next-Gen Raytracing Addressed
AMD has said in a recent briefing that raytracing will arrive on their cards "when the time is right". Here's what that means.
I assume this means that both are for-sure RDNA2 (I'd watch the video if I wasn't in class right now)?
Well, there it is... Straight from the horse's mouth.
That is Mithun Chandrasekhar, AMD lead product manager, speaking in the video.
Some people doubted below article's credibility (myself included). Now it should be pretty clear.
AMD Ray Tracing Will Arrive "When The Time is Right" - Next-Gen Raytracing Addressed
AMD has said in a recent briefing that raytracing will arrive on their cards "when the time is right". Here's what that means.
EDIT: cc SlipperyFishes, Kreten
I think the argument wasn't over whether the PS5 would have ray tracing but whether it would be RDNA 2.0. I believe it is RDNA 2.0.
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