Hellblade 2 looks impressive for a next gen title. Halo Infinite looks impressive for a current gen title.
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PS5 and Xbox Series speculation launch thread |OT9| - For flops sake!
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Hellblade 2 looks impressive for a next gen title. Halo Infinite looks impressive for a current gen title.
Imo the biggest issue with MS's strategy is that
-at launch at least- they won't have games with gameplay that was designed around superfast ssd's. Even if they end up having the most powerful console GPU/memory-wise, they basically give up on the next generation's biggest advantage.
Bit of a shame and quite a bad decision imo.
-at launch at least- they won't have games with gameplay that was designed around superfast ssd's. Even if they end up having the most powerful console GPU/memory-wise, they basically give up on the next generation's biggest advantage.
Bit of a shame and quite a bad decision imo.
I can not wait to see Hellblade 2 running on the console and compare it to the trailer they had released...
Don't fall too deep into "In-engine footage" well, bullshot videos of this and next gen.
So the ram amounts wont matter? Whats available on XBO vs Series X and Lockhart? That made a difference from last gen to this gen.
We already see the base consoles struggling more now with recent games. Do we expect the One S to struggle even more...or will games be designed to make the One S not look so bad....
IMO thats the million dollar question, one that many keep bringing up.
10tf it is. Maybe 11.
Take that, github!!!
A cutscene looks impressive. Who would of thought that could happen.
Wait for gameplay
Sure, as will Microsoft and many other third party devs that will still have cross-generation versions. Not saying with the same effort, since for sure MS will go to partners a-la Sumo Digital to create current-gen versions of the game. I doubt it will just be scaling down for Xbox One in all cases. At some point it will involve gameplay and content limitations, just like with Forza Horizon 2 when current gen launched
https://www.polygon.com/2014/6/23/5834042/forizon-horizon-2s-xbox-360-version-is-a-different-game-than-on-xbox
What will stop Microsoft from doing the same?
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Great post. Despite many assertions to the contrary, it doesn't seem beyond reason to expect that even launch titles could make use of the improved processor and storage. First party launch titles are meant to showcase the capabilities of the new hardware in a way that says, "Why yes, you probably should spend $400-$500 on new hardware, because your old box can't do this."
That all seems easier to do with PS5/XSX, as it's not just the GPU that's getting a big bump. It'll be interesting to see how things shake out, but I do think there's a strong chance those that are hand-waving away the potential differences between titles that have to account for Jaguars and HDDs and those that don't, are in for a surprise.
haha
We have seen more than a 10x10 room.
Not even impressive for current gen title. Just yet another good looking aaa game.
My guess still is that next gen games will be closer to Halo then Hellblade 2.
Yeah. With the Hellblade 2 trailer, I think it's important to remember this from the GameSpot interview:
The "average" next-gen game will look closer to Halo I think, but there will be outliers.
It could be like The Order: 1886. It's the upper echelon of next-gen graphics, and very few games will out-do it. Many won't even come close.
From MS yes. And maybe fo the first year or so.
But from sony? I strongly doubt that.
No one has ever been "chased out" for providing accurate information. Sometimes people leave because they get exposed, and sometimes they leave because they just don't feel like spending time on forums anymore.
This is my worry with Sony right now. I'm nervous they're going to show up with a soft launch lineup. They've got some amazing development teams but many of them take a long time to get stuff out.
This is one of my biggest hopes for the PS5 launch. I don't want to see a trash tier mascot game like Knack. I want a 4K60 Ratchet & Clank extravaganza. It should look amazing and Insomniac have definitely had to the time to make it happen. I'm going to be really disappointed if it doesn't at least show up in the first year of PS5.
What exactly is that next gen experience? The idea that there will be next gen games that couldn't be downgraded enough to play on PS4 or XB1 is a fallacy. Its seems the next gen experience for some people is for Sony and MS to force them to upgrade by restricting content to the new systems arbitrarily.
I agree that exclusives are an important unique selling preposition but there are more like included catalog, security, availability (countries), latency (data centers), streaming quality, mobile device accessory support, pricing, playing options ( download & streaming at launch). You get the idea. Btw I forgot one player in my listing that was Stadia. Tells you how I look at the current service offering there.
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Turning off my snark, if it's not even the same fucking game then what is this conversation?
I'm just glad we can admit this is what would have to happen when real next-gen games start and have gotten past the bullshit argument that any game ever made can scale infinitely without a limit.
Yep...and then people will start "wars" over cheap subscriptions (which will be even more hilarious).
I got PSNow for God of War and now I have it for Horizon Zero Dawn and The Last of Us. As long as they have games worthwhile to play on the service I will subscribe. That's why being cheap service with good content helps get more users. I skipped PS4 because I couldn't justify getting it at launch with the games there that weren't great imo and then when the good games did come, there weren't enough to justify spending hundreds for just a couple exclusives...but using PSNow I can not have to worry about it. That's going to be the best part of next-generation and these platforms...cheap gaming. That's partly the reason why these "arguments" become so null and void in my eyes cuz not everyone is going to care about the box (like me, I'm all about the streaming future...just like I was about the digital future) and it will come down to content in the end. I don't care about the platforms, just the content and how my experience is playing such games. These boxes are just a means to an end.
Stadia is cool...I just wish they had content I wanted to play at a cheaper price. They need exclusives and a gamepass like competitor in order for their service to be competitive...but the streaming tech is good.
Guys, Gals, Chickens, Robots... even Netflix has its limits of device support. Come on. This is not going to be some "you can play this on every device ever made" solution just because it's in the cloud.
You have to remember that some games are going to target 60 fps. Which imo, they all should.
This is the right way to be. Get both.
Exactly.
Like I said earlier, that post that had options a and b, if it was b, a different game, Booty should have never said anything. Because that would be expected, 2 different games.
It is going to eventually be on all major devices...rokus, chromecasts, tv apps, etc... there's nothing stopping them to be as pervasive as Netflix outside of what the companies want to support. I mean sure Netflix has limits on device support but there's more "screens" that it supports than doesn't.
60 FPS standard should have happened this gen already, but like always developer chose graphics over performance.
I 100% expect trend to continue going into next-gen, vast majority of games targeting 30 FPS.
My wife would let me buy both, but I'm kind of imposing my own limit on myself to only buy one this year. Of course that wouldn't stop me from buying the other in January 2021 ;)
Do you feel this is disingenuous? Those shots were from the original reveal trailer. Two things about that fact are that it was 1.5 years ago being much earlier in development and the key thing, imo, is that it was before Project Scarlett was officially announced. Halo Infinite was announced as an Xbox One title. As far as I'm concerned, you should look to the shots you posted as what they are targeting on Xbox One considering that was all we 'knew' about at the time. And that looks absolutely great for an Xbox One title.haha
We have seen more than a 10x10 room.
Even if they did, it wouldn't stop games from looking impressive. DMC5, for example.
No, I did not consider that. That could be a fair criticism. I assume that all the target renders that we have seen so far have been on PC. So in this case, you believe the game is developed for current gen and upscaled to next gen?
I've seen talk of a patent, but haven't bothered digging into the threadmarks to find it.
Agreed, I even said something similar earlier in the thread. Still the bulk of development was as a 360 title that was later moved as an Xbox One exclusive using unfinished tools on a system hampered by splitting resources with Kinect. As amazing as the game looks, it still doesn't utilize the hardware nearly as well as games released later on in the generation.
The scenario I described earlier would be devs taking fundamental advantage of next gen hardware. Also it's safe to say of the 15 studios there, the majority of projects have moved over to next gen exclusives. So I don't think this approach hinders that push all that much.
I'm not redefining anything to win anything. A poster said it couldn't be done and I gave examples to how it could. I completely get point that you can cut out enough graphically can result in a different game. I think that perception is subjective and not entirely objective though. For example I think the cuts made to the 360 version of Forza Horizon 2 make it a different game but others may disagree. Despite what I or any other gamer thinks, it's still an example to how a game can be cross gen while still providing that next gen experience on the newer platform. If I were MS, I'd take the opportunity to show how much of a leap there is when playing on newer hardware as a way to sell hardware. Assuming the leap is as large as we think it will be.
Really when I think about this, this isn't entirely new for MS. They did something similar with Titanfall, Forza Horizon 2, and Rise of the Tomb Raider. No one gave a shit back then but now that some are looking for a target to aim for, this is all of a sudden a huge deal. FYI I'm not talking about you here, just some other suspect posters.
The game has been in development for 4 years. It will be running on an incredible large range of devices, Xbox One, Xbox One X, laptops, desktops, xCloud blades, and the Series X, with a possible Lockhart if that device exists. It will be built with all those devices in mind and scaled accordingly.
This time you get to play as the duck
I wonder if we'll see the return of the rubber ducky demo next month
only the patent that I am aware of.
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This is my assumption as well.
To be completely fair, we're talking about Crytek.
Seems like a short experience.
I wonder if we'll see the return of the rubber ducky demo next month
I hope we see this tech used in next gen racers.
I'm no developer, but I have to believe that targeting one set of specs is easier than targeting multiple. But perhaps the APIs/tools they use have abstractions that facilitate cross-gen development.
Because scaling will work for Lockhart (if it ends up happening) and xCloud (which you will technically be able to use on XBO).
Some devs out there will also choose to go for just scaling (probably most third-party multiplatform devs), others will choose to make different versions of the game withour those next-gen advantages.
I believe in MS' case, they are attempting to ease development targeting multiple devices(I avoid saying cross gen, as that is an almost irrelavant term once you are targeting PCs and all the devices and compatability that entails) with Gamecore.
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