Jason heard it has less ram. Tom Warren said weaker cpu.
Storage is bound to be Lower as well. They will gut this system anyway they can.
They should also save a few dollars on smaller form factor and a standard cooling system.
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PS5 and Xbox Series speculation launch thread |OT9| - For flops sake!
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Storage is bound to be Lower as well. They will gut this system anyway they can.
They should also save a few dollars on smaller form factor and a standard cooling system.
I'm guessing and speculating but some of the changes in positions is they're not really bringing in completely new players but more about aligning leadership towards where their strengths were at the same time replacing major positions that were vacant. They recognize the importance of network and content services and Kodera having been in charge since the start of PS4 is better to have someone who is experienced leader prior that brought about it's current success and being in both positions as CEO likely doesn't really work. PlayStation is clearly deficient when it comes to their indie initiatives having lost key people, shu seems to have a lot of passion when it comes to this area as well as also having experience with managing games, he's clearly one of the few known heads of Sony left and there's nothing but confidence in putting someone like him in this area which therefore translates to third party developers having confidence back (I think Jim said something similar). Hermen who has taken over the role, seems to have been involved with WWS overall and combining his experience with GG and was very pretty instrumental in Death Standing collaboration which involved numerous divisions. I just don't think if SIE leadership was going very badly, they would have just put leadership in different roles but still in charge of significant areas. The only one that kind of stands out is really Shawn leaving which might be clearly due to conflicting visions as WWS has gone through a different structure now. It also doesn't really make sense when you look at the timelines in place. Jim only came on board last year in Feb. Whatever console they were making would have been in the process for a longer time that if it was going badly, why not delay especially if something is happening with WWS in general as well. Whatever game they have at launch will have to be planned at least years out as in games from around 2017 onward that making changes just two months ago would have no affect and makes even less sense knowing Hermen was Vice president of WWS. 2019 seemed more like a time where they refocused, recognized where they were deficient and making changes to make the Division stronger rather than everything going badly.
Pachter's sources suggest they won't, but uhh, he has terrible sources a lot of the time.
People like to beat on this dead horse.
MS won't make the same mistake at the start of this gen, they will and have learned from their mistakes. They will have the games this Gen that compare to favorably to Sony's 1st party next gen (in my opinion).......
Game pass is amazing btw
Ya as far as form factor, i would guess it will have the same design just about 1/2 the height of XsX
I can buy this.
Could be that Jim was the one who proposed delaying to 2020 and making a more powerful console.
I just hope the e3 rumors are not true.
its incredible that people think the Series X isn't going to have software that competes directly or even possibly better than PS5. I just can't believe the overreaction that's going on lol
It's a co-op game at 60 FPS though. Still looks fantastic compared to what we have on PS4 and it's being made by a small studio.
Naughty Dog and all the big boyz are going to melt faces.
Ok I hadn't seen this, thanks, I'm guessing it's Godfall. It's impressive alright but doesn't scream "next-gen" to me just yet.
Think you're right that it's gonna take a first party to really make the new hardware sing.
No previous generational leaps, at least the platform exclusive ones, have just looked like last gen PC games, why would this one be different? Seems a little pessimistic to me but I guess, if you have low expectations, you have a chance to be pleasantly surprised 😊
The casual gamers want prettier graphics on next-gen. They don't care so much about changes to game design.
well unlike the ps5 e3 speculation, this isn't something I'm making up. An ms exec us saying they will have cross gen exclusives for the first two years. This isn't debatable. They ARE making the same mistakes. Or rather new mistakes because they at least had the common sense to launch next gen only games last gen.
I don't know how you can compare unreleased and unrevealed next gen ps5 games to current Xbox games but i guess if you like Xbox franchises it makes sense. I've already said that ms won't lose their diehard fans. That's not the point.
I have game pass. I've had gamepass for almost a year. Its a great value but i don't see what this has to do with next gen. You can have next gen only games on gamepass along with last gen games. You don't have to limit your output, handicap your devs, and punish your early adopters just for some parity between subscribers.
See above. We are discussing matt bootys comments. Maybe he's lying or playing some 3d chess with Sony trying to get them to release cross gen games.
Or maybe he means what he says.
People keep saying this but I think Crysis 3 easily looks on par with your average AAA multiplat title from this gen.
Crytek engine aint no joke. It has legs. Look at ryse on PC. Shit is insanely awesome looking when cranked, and scales really well.
Post from Jason that I think is important to bring up with the cross-gen discussion:
Note that none of what he mentioned is hindered by cross-gen.
They will care they just won't notice how it get done.
Like if they can fly in HZD2 it would be awesome to them but they won't know what behind it .
It's always been that way .
Function is. Next gen is (and always has been) way more than just prettier graphics. New things that can be done with the new hardware that are just simply impossible on the old one.
Why wouldn't it be if they are talking about a single year of cross-gen games? We should start seeing exclusives in holiday season 2021.
I've made a post about it a few days ago:
PC doesn't necessarily have the same issue because developers can choose which minimum specs to target. So if they want to make a graphics showcase, they can.
With regards to Hellblade, I really don't know? Yes, the trailer looked very good - but it wasn't gameplay and we don't know if it is representative of the final game. And more importantly, we don't know how that stacks up to next gen exclusive games yet. So while it looks like a leap over this generation, it may not end up being as impressive when we have something to compare it to.
Please don't take that as a shot at Hellblade.
I'm hoping to see a Crysis 1 remake with RT for next gen
A very astute comment. Anyone with a modicum of corporate leadership experience (I frankly have no idea what the user demographics of Era are) knows that these decisions do not happen in a vacuum. CEOs are not shuffled this quickly unless things are very messy internally, or there is a personal emergency. Their entire handling of major trade shows has been incredibly bizarre. Something is amiss internally for sure... but hopefully the console itself does not suffer.
You're forgetting the BR player. That's another $50 at least.
There's separate thread already, but I'll post it here as it's kinda important for our topic:
Matt Booty (Xbox): Our titles for the next year or two will not be next gen exclusive
Tried to paraphrase for the title, and searched for other threads saying this, but couldn’t find any. https://www.mcvuk.com/we-need-to-deliver-on-the-promises-that-we-make-xbox-game-studios-matt-booty-on-the-future-of-xbox/ Interesting strategy. Makes sense from an install base perspective...www.resetera.com
And I can't say that I like it.
I'm fine with this.
I trust MS judgment when it comes to deciding how they'll approach cross-gen development.
With, Halo Infinte it makes sense for the XSX version to be a more detailed port of the version that been in development for xbox one for the last 5 years. They want this game to be as accessible as possible as they look to draw in lapsed Halo fans, pc players, current players and new fans. Making it exclusive to the newest hardware would severely hamper the reach and goodwill they are finally earning with MCC.
With a game like Forza Horizon, their approach to cross-gen has been unique. While Playground made the xbox one version, development forked to another studio to build the 360 version. The result was a game that appeared similar on the surface, but the xb1 version took advantage of the hardware in a way that enabled gameplay elements that were impossible on the 360 version. They were essentially two separate games.
Looking at MS IP, they've got tons of opportunities to take different approaches to cross-gen development. I don't expect everything to be the standard "same game, better graphics" approach.
After 2021 though, once devs have gotten a feel for the hardware, they should start dropping those titles that are built from the ground up for the new gen.
Yes it's godfall and it's made by a small indie developer. I see that and fidelity from a small studio with probably a fraction of the budget, manpower and experience comparable to Sony first party and my head gets racing.
It's mostly concern trolling they weren't going to get xsex anyway. This is the first "generation" going from X86 to X86 games should easily scale to their desired platform.
There could be a few exceptions I guess, I'd have to see direct comparisons to make my own mind up.
I like this attitude 😊👍🏻
It wouldn't have the exact same CPU, RAM and storage. They would be able go a bit cheaper on all of those things since the assets are smaller and resolution lower.
Well for all we know Horizon 5 could release in Spring 2021 or be one of the last cross-gen titles in Holiday 2021. Just like Forza Horizon 2 released on both 360 and Xbox One.
I'm the opposite I want them to hit the ground running. This gen was a wash, let it die, and start anew.
We know 3rd party devs are going to be cross gen. Which in the past people always griped about. This whole point of debate revolves around 1st party games though. To each his own but if you want $500 from me I want games I can't play anywhere else.
It's a game that hasn't even been confirmed for next gen. It will be, of course, but the fact it's coming to ps4 and xbone as well as PC kind of says that it's not really a next gen title.
The highest quality shiny 4k pixels.
The logo hate train has now moved on to sony being lazy by keeping the logo too similar to the ps4 logo.
Yeah what Matt Booty said is exactly right you're not going to see "next gen exclusives" right away because it's not needed and it wouldn't make sense. It's just common sense games like Call of Duty are going to be cross gen/cross play in fact I doubt anything 3rd party is going to go all in on either PS5 or XSX because selling to 100 million people is better than maybe 1 to maybe 5 million including both systems? Hellblade was emphasized as taking full advantage of XSX and its obvious it's not a launch title. Games like Cyberpunk and Last of Us 2 are next gen games that will work on current hardware and are perfect examples of what we will see for the first year of these consoles. The only reason people are reacting this way is because it's Xbox saying it and it's the cool thing to do in the gaming world
Why would a system targeting 1080p at a lower retail cost need the same RAM and CPU clock speed as one targeting 4K?
Not true...I'd be saying same thing if Sony announced similar...I'll be buying both consoles but I think this is a terrible decision for the launch of a new console. Currently I play most multiplatform on the one x...and whatever console has better performance for multiplat games I'll do the same next gen...im not a Sony fanboy...
Exactly because it's ps5 and pc...now using this example, this is what people will be saying about Microsoft's cross gen games in the first couple of years.
The success of the Wii on the back of motion controls with comparatively primitive graphics says otherwise. People want new experiences, which can come in the form of graphical fidelity, new input devices, online gaming, and any number of future potential sources. Something novel draws people to spend money faster than simply delivering more of the same (At least over the long haul, safe bets can work in the short run but always run dry eventually.)
Well they are traced god rays. Sunglasses included with every console :P
Motion control was something that was truly novel back then. I don't know how "novel" the changes that SSD and the stronger CPU will be perceived to be by casual gamers.
And the Wii came at a great price too compared to the 360 and PS3.
What was that E3 controversy about people's addresses being given out? Heard Jason Shreier talking about it on Kataku Splitscreen. Said it might impact attendance at this year's convention.
Since when do casual gamers care about graphics lol? Casual gamers just want to be entertained. Nothing else.
Just like VR and WiiU broke the world, huh
It's not that simple as just doing something novel
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