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PS5 and Xbox Series speculation launch thread |OT9| - For flops sake!
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yeah I'd guess so, just let my hype overtake my unrealistic expectations for it. Unless we get some naughty dog level optimization that utilizes RT on a whole other level while maximizing the strengths of these weaker-than-high-end-pc cards
Okay I lold
So, i have spent $350 trying to get rid of this humming noise in my gaming PC. it comes on any time i run the games at 4k 60 fps and then stays on while i browse this thread for the next few hours. it annoyed me so much i took it the shop. they suggested replacing the stock cpu cooler and upgrading the psu. that cost $350 because labor alone was $140.
i bring it back and the noise is still there.
so what does this have to do with this thread? turns out its something called coil whine and its been a thing plaguing high end gpus forever. it seems to affect a lot of rtx gpus presumably because of the power requirements and their size or maybe they are just poorly made. it has something to do with how power is distributed to different parts of the gpu.
if next gen gpus are that big. we are going to get a very different kind of sound that no cooling system can suppress. good luck to ms and sony.
its a super annoying sound and apparently zotac offers an RMA for it. im returning it tomorrow and hopefully getting one that doesnt hum like a robot peeing for 2 hours. i feel stupid for spending $350 on a psu and heatsink replacement but thats what you get for trusting mechanics.
i bring it back and the noise is still there.
so what does this have to do with this thread? turns out its something called coil whine and its been a thing plaguing high end gpus forever. it seems to affect a lot of rtx gpus presumably because of the power requirements and their size or maybe they are just poorly made. it has something to do with how power is distributed to different parts of the gpu.
if next gen gpus are that big. we are going to get a very different kind of sound that no cooling system can suppress. good luck to ms and sony.
its a super annoying sound and apparently zotac offers an RMA for it. im returning it tomorrow and hopefully getting one that doesnt hum like a robot peeing for 2 hours. i feel stupid for spending $350 on a psu and heatsink replacement but thats what you get for trusting mechanics.
yea, I don't see that. if AMD's patent is how their RT will work, then you'll have instances where you have to choose as RT will use up some of the parts of the compute unit
Calm down.
I deliberately started that line of discussion to bring the topic back to speculation and next gen specs.
The man has not said anything yet and the thread already gone off the rails.
We really need some info on the PS meeting or something else cause it's getting harder to read this thread.
We really need some info on the PS meeting or something else cause it's getting harder to read this thread.
Same reason the GitHub talk hasn't died down even though a mod spoke out about it.
My speculation is that the PS5 meeting wont be announced until closer to the meeting. Sony will want to make sure they have everything ready before the meeting. So we're still potentially a few weeks out from a date, if it's going to happen in february
Got tired of the petty snipes f rom fanboys and people talking shit about him. Plus he said he had nothing left to say and had served his purpose.
Ninty gets on fine without the big dumb conference, but If you really need filler in your prepared marketing material, then yeah, might be time to find a new hobby.
Yep, it would be nice for people that don't live in NA or SA.
Probably personal attacks mixed with people constantly asking him for info that he made clear he wasn't divulging because of the security of his source. He said he wasn't digging the attention and I feel him.
I don't see why he can't just ignore those posters, though. Unfortunate situation to see him gone for a few bad eggs.
While the github leak is allegedly old, it's still confirmed factual information.
Dual GPUs and HMB are wishes from my ass.
What the mod say about it? Did he give information on why its false?
Nah he never said it was false he just said it didn't prove anything, which is true, but people want to spin that into saying it is fake and has no use at all.
The data can be real, but how it relates to anything next-gen is pure speculation and none of that is factual information.
Has fast charging been confirmed for next gen?
I still don't get why some can't be kind, and respectful to one another. ☹️
Lets be good to each other guys, and respectful.
I'm just so happy we are in the year of next gen consoles.
I'm just so happy we are in the year of next gen consoles.
It probably would've been cheaper if you flew me out there to diagnose/fix it for you. How much is a ticket from chicago to wherever you are?
Probably wanted to use that time for other stuff too. Seems like he's big on family so I think all of the chaos was pushing him to enjoy his time more wisely. I never got the idea that a few fanboys drove him off. Dude is an OG and has been on message boards for decades and that's after he wrote for mags. He can handle a fanboy or 2. Fun aside, as a teen I used to walk all over New Orleans going store to store to get the latest issue of GameFan and it was largely because of him. Didn't see many Black folks in games journalism so I always dug that. He's a good cat, he'll probably be back one day.
If they're both not related, then they're equally as bad.
This is a speculation thread, so why wouldn't we discuss github leak?
Kind of sad that i can't come up with a reason not to do that.........
You are expecting too much of people who like companies far too much. If they were in the same room and someone dared to say that one would be stronger. I think hell would be paradise compared to that room.
Over the years the dreams and fairy dust have won .
If we go by some in this thread we were getting 8TF to 10TF GNC HDD no RT consoles .
Sure somethings sound crazy dual GPUs lol but most of the time it not outlandish .
Wait what?
So allegedly old factual data is equally as bad as made up and literally impossible scenarios?
What
If they're both irrelevant to what will be in the next-gen consoles, then yes.
Expy didn't say that though? He was responding to someone whining people were speculating about dual gpus and hbm.
Man, that doesn't feel next-gen at all. That's like PS4 Pro 2
lol im in ohio. you couldve driven here. ;p i have done that drive in 5 and a half hours. only one stop.
i kept telling the guy to just install a quieter case which is the main reason why i went there in the first place. he had the damn thing for a full day and couldnt figure out if the noise was coming from the cpu or the gpu. its the best reviewed computer shop in the city too.
i googled gpu noise and got coil whine as the first hit. $800 and these manufacturers cant make something that doesnt buzz.
Why is it that the "Github is the best we have" argument always comes from the same group of users.
Give it a rest please.
Give it a rest please.
Eh, at this point I'll happily accept garbage tech discussion as long as it's tech discussion. I'm up for Cell 2 vs. dual GPU.
Obviously AMD can put their parts into whatever they want for whatever testing they want, I just find it amusing the one benchmark leak of what appears to be their biggest and most powerful video card ever is paired with a laptop CPU. Laptop CPU + big ol' GPU is basically the modern console formula, after all.
I did find Lisa Su's discussion of cutting power usage in half with their mobile GPUs rather interesting; probably too late in the process to have much impact for these two consoles, but I'm not sure we have any way of knowing that for sure.
Yeah, I'm not going to lie. My expectations were quite a bit more conservative than what we're seeing, so I definitely need to raise them.
I can't wait to see what comes out of GDC. It's also going to be exciting to see RT utilization evolve throughout the generation.
You have any links to the AMD patents? I wouldn't mind learning more about their approach.
A 9 TF console that dies after a few months from the 2 GHZ, that's apparently the PS5, the best Cerny could come up with.
This is what he told me before he left:
That resonated with me.
It's the 4800h along with a 6Gb nvidia card. No big navi inside unless that laptop ran 3 gpus.
That's really dope I wish we had more black journalist and developers in gaming I could identify with
But hold on.
If we know that old data is confirmed, then we can speculate on how it might have changed/been upgraded etc.
HMB and Dual GPUs is literally nothing. From nowhere. Grounded in nothing. That's not speculation that's just...nothing.
you mean how some narratives on here are based on one box have a better advantage over the other? That's why those "leaks" or info has not slown down.
All we know is that the data itself is real. What we don't know is if this data has anything to do with PS5 and as far as I know, outside of speculating clock speeds and CUs, there has been no confirmation of those chips being inside PS5.
dual gpus is insane but there is a dual gpu out there. test results were posted just today and it shows it beating a rtx 2080 ti.
now this is the 505mm2 big navi. the so-called nvidia killer. it simply wont be in a console. it doesnt need to be. you dont need a 20 tflops gpu. but we do know that the ms apu is over 400mm2. i remember when the estimates at e3 were first posted, there was speculation that it was almost 400mm2, but even the people who came up with that figure downgraded it to 380mm2 and then to 360mm2. no one believed that ms could be going with an apu that large.
sony doesnt need an 80 cu gpu to get to 12-14 tflops. they can get there with a 56 cu gpu which should fit within a 360mm2 apu as long as they are willing to cut down the zen 2 and go with hbm. but it doesnt matter really. no one here believes in dual gpus. i pretty much live in this thread and i have never seen anyone really throw it out there as a real possibility. more people bitch about it being mentioned than people who throw it out there as an outlandish possibility.
to me, its as asinine as expecting the ps5 to be a 300mm2 apu. 50mm2 smaller than the ps4 was at 28nm. 200mm2 smaller than the ps3 discrete cpu and gpu chips. 250mm2 smaller than the emotion engine chip. its laughable, but we entertain it because well thats what we do here. if we started to bitch about it every time someone brought it up, this thread would be an even bigger mess. no idea why people get so butthurt over someone even remotely bringing up dual gpus.
Mate. I'm right here.
This is the first time I've mentioned GitHub. Which was only in response to it being mentioned in response to a post I made.
I was merely commenting on using something factual for the basis of speculation vs speculation for speculation's sake.
There's always the same people to dismiss them as well. Shits flying both ways and always will. Everyone needs to chill. They're both gonna be great consoles and it's guaranteed both consoles will be better at something.
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Like I said when they're both close in power and their efforts to slow PS5 down are in vain...they'll be ok.
The funny part is that they think they're somehow flying above the radar and "only speculating."
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