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PS5 and Xbox Series speculation launch thread |OT9| - For flops sake!
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Is there a point where this will be broken up in two threads to reduce console warfare? I'd like to get info about both consoles with a better signal to noise ratio. I'm buying a PS5 day one but want to know more about it, and on the fence between an X1X or a new PC and this thread isn't helping with either in the last 1-2 weeks.
It's inevitable. Y'all are a bunch of thirsty thots 🤣
It's a no-win situation for him but it was great to get his perspective.
thanks for everything I really appreciate all your posts
hope you have a good time
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I too work for a software company, what do you know... Doesn't mean anything. This is about risk aversion vs potential benefit; which is to say, almost no potential benefit for a very high potential negative impact (Even if the risk of getting caught is low).
If you want to not believe what he posted, great, go for it. It's irrelevant. The point is that there's every reason not to post things when there's so little reason to do so (Faux forum game).
Considering you are one of the main guys making it not end well for Klee...
This thread won't help you with that at all...100%...I would advise for you to wait until the official specs are released.
Seems for many here being nice to strangers is not normal.
|OT10| Ten Tflops is good...right?
A hero on and off the boards.
Klee start your YT channel already!
I mean I thought he wasn't sharing specs because he would get banned for not being verified or something but at this point tell why else wouldn't he be able to share them if he actually had them? The specs cannot be traced back to 1 person that is the stupidest thing I have ever heard...
I had forgotten about Lockhart, but then again you were hardly the only person to report it was dead which makes it seem like plans changing more than anything.
This is purely a speculation thread and it should not be split up.
However, I fully agree that once specs are revealed, there should be 2 Official Threads to talk about the specs for each. I just don't know "how interesting" it will be for "some" not to be in a thread to argue one versus the other. That is one thing that drives so many replies here is the Xbox vs. PS people waring with each other. A dedicated thread for each once specs are released would be more civil, but after a bit wont have as much traction since there is no going back and forth about each consoles specs and what they could mean.
User Banned (5 days): Trolling, history of console wars
Unless it's a stranger supporting their preferred brand.
Just stop it sounds to me Microsoft has made the design and will know if its worth droping or if they will be a higher spec to ps5 and just match ps5 price i think there are too many strategies from both companies to know just stop
Really? Fully detailed target specs 1.5 year before launch? In competitive industry? And those do not leak? I tend to not believe that. I believe they have a ballpark, but details that early, outside of maybe trusted 1st parties? Don't believe.
I mean he already posted plenty that is more risky than specs like details about an upcoming game or when they would announce the specs... and second, the risk isn't low it is non-existent. How would you trace specs back to 1 person?
If the only time we should empathize with someone is when they have a "personal tragedy", then it would certainly explain a lot for the behavior in this thread.
You've clearly already made up your mind. Same way when someone stops responding in an argument, it means they must be wrong. What other option could there be.
Microsoft aim to make the best console they possibly can for that higher bar console and sandwich the PS5? The two console approach makes zero sense otherwise
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So your idea is that Sony's strategy is soley based on what Microsoft does? And not of its own research and goals? Playstations next gen strategy is or should essentially be a reaction to Microsoft who has never sold more consoles that Playstation.. I would like some clarification?
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So your idea is that Sony's strategy is soley based on what Microsoft does? And not of its own research and goals? Playstations next gen strategy is or should essentially be a reaction to Microsoft who has never sold more consoles that Playstation.. I would like some clarification?
but i'll tell you why it "might" make sense, because sony aims to also have the most powerful console and the PS5 is not a reaction to the alleged weaker xbox!
Preach! Those people you listed are pretty much the reason I spend so much time in this thread/forum.
We have nothing but speculation at this point, so two threads would just double the console wars.
You kinda missed out on the holiday discounts on the X, so I would say go PC if you need something right now. If you can wait, keeping an eye on X1X discounts would be the best bet. Right before Christmas I picked up a X bundle for $249 (with extra controller) and an extra $50 trade in for my S. I ended up paying basically $100 (slightly less as I had a few other things to trade in) for an upgrade to an X. Complete no brainer IMO.
Presumably because his name and industry credentials are public.
It wouldn't be hard to trace back leaked hardware info to whomever he speaks with at development studios.
We'll I have bookmarks for something:
Trust whatever you want.
Klee, since you are leaving for good, be sure to send the specs to Matt and have them post them on your behalf after the ps5 reveal. if not the whole thing, just stuff rounded off to protect your source.
Also, say you had to sleep with someone called Team 14 tflops but then someone hotter comes in at 9 tflops, literally hotter. who would you trust enough to jump into bed with?
Note: Team 14 tflops might have a HBM so your experience will be enhanced. so to speak.
Also, say you had to sleep with someone called Team 14 tflops but then someone hotter comes in at 9 tflops, literally hotter. who would you trust enough to jump into bed with?
Note: Team 14 tflops might have a HBM so your experience will be enhanced. so to speak.
Tools that devs are more used to. Tools that MS will leverage their HW for(metal). VRS that MS is using is netting huge performance improvements. DXR Nvidia uses and AMD and Intel will use. This is an advantage for MS. Not saying Sony Ray tracing will suck just that MS as a Software company has an advantage in this area imo.
Let me rephrase, I'm on the fence between a "Series X" later in the year or a new PC when the 3000 series drops from Nvidia.
He has already leaked stuff tho related to specs and announcement dates/etc. If that was a worry why leak that stuff earlier then? It puts him in a similar position.
Yes, I'm just making shit up, like the fact that the Lockhart console was dead. Oh wait, that wasn't me.
If by true colors you mean that I'm a rational person who doesn't instantly believe every single thing someone tells me, yes.
They may not have announced it yet, but we all know the "Series" part of the new naming scheme suggests it's happening.
Sometimes leakers get caught. IP addresses, linked email accounts, conversations in places people assumed wouldn't be subject to discovery; there are many examples of large tech companies going after leakers and suspected leakers. There's never zero risk, and even if repercussions aren't legally enforceable, if someone ends up with the sense of "not trustworthy" around them, it can have a negative impact on their connections in the field.
BLAS alternatives research seem to be a very active field right now (likely thanks to NV actively pumping R&D money into real time RT). It may well end up being true but it's not a h/w solution meaning that it will run faster on any GPU with higher general performance. So even if PS5 will use something like this while XSX will use AMD's h/w RT from RDNA2, the fact that XSX will have more FP32 flops means that it will end up being faster with such approach as well.
There's also this:
It's more about scene representation than RT but it does something similar to BLAS making modern Turing BVH h/w essentially useless as general purpose compute provide the same level of performance.
All that Matt written says nothing against MS saying ~10TF and Sony saying ~9TF. I see absolutely no problem for devs in scenario like that. If expressed in GCN performance(which at the time would make sense), both would be 10TF+. And it would even make sense for MS not to commit too much not even out of secrecy, but because they may have worried about yields of big chip and what frequency they can get to.
Every insider in this forum has said lockhart was dead. So they're all liars, right?!
Guys, no one ask questions because questions run off insiders.
Because K. Lee is kind of a public figure in the gaming community; so if a developer is friends with him that might be a known thing. It's one thing to do hinty stuff, probably nobody would investigate. But if actual specs were leaked someone might investigate.
Just not worth it. Leaking stuff like that can literally be considered a crime; and while it's not often prosecuted because of the criminal nature it's a slam dunk in civil court.
Yeah...loook at the Series X thread(s) right now on this forum.....
Doesn't matter IMO. When they were both split alot more activity was going on in the next gen Sony thread anyway. I have a theory about why they were merged but it's whatever.
Because it shouldn't be about arguing. It should be about being excited for whatever console(s) you get.
Some ppl don't know how to have a civil debate, argument. In all walks of life, not just here.
One would think that with the Series X threads...this one wouldn't be so volatile....
But here we are.
Considering that no one under the sun has leaked any hard specs (CPU speeds, RAM configurations, SSD speeds, TF, and etc.) for these consoles, clearly there are lines that devs and folks like Klee are unable to cross.
Yeah, I'll give u that but why not just give the specs to a mod and let the mod leak em or something. I am assuming mods have a good way to verify ppl that won't get traced.
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