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PS5 and Xbox Series speculation launch thread |OT9| - For flops sake!
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Don't . we ll miss you . Continue to lurk and post from time to time 😂
True.
The worst part is... it cant be like $200.. I just dont see people saying "I want to spend $300 on a console 1 third as powerful as the Series X or PS5"
That and the massive uptick of 4K tvs at this point... 1080P is fast becoming a dinosaur in gaming. Not sure who wants to pay $60 a game to enjoy it at 1080P either (cant imagine most people in the US), and then pay for gamepass to play games in 1080P in 2021 and beyond.
No one I know is interested in Lockhart. None would even consider it for their kids. It's Series X /PS5 and a Switch.
In my opinion... the Switch will continue to outsell the Lockhart and they will battle it out at a similar pricepoint.
I was hoping we might see reram as part of their Alpha camera lineup, but they didn't focus too much on that here. There are camera focused events coming up so there's still a chance.
Pro camera users are used to paying a premium and a new memory tech dozens of times faster than current memory seems like a great fit for high speed photography and 8K video.
I still believe that Lockhart should be a portable device.
This would increase the chance of double dipping, not only XSX owners but also likely many PS5 owners.
The Alienware UFO showed (at least here) that there is some thirst for a device like that (even though I doubt MS would make it a fully fledged windows machine).
If MS could hide Surface Duo, then what else could they hide.
This would increase the chance of double dipping, not only XSX owners but also likely many PS5 owners.
The Alienware UFO showed (at least here) that there is some thirst for a device like that (even though I doubt MS would make it a fully fledged windows machine).
If MS could hide Surface Duo, then what else could they hide.
Do we have specs for the UFO (clever name)? I would think the challenge of cooling a 4 TF device like Lockhart in a portable fashion to be interesting. From my memory, isn't Switch 1 TF?
While this would definitely be a good idea, I doubt it's technically feasible. (Maybe by using Nvidia tech)
Found this in the PS5 sub reddit, how likely is this scenario to be true?
Wait so this is saying Sony has a complete other chipset just for RT?
I find that hard to believe since wouldn't that make the system cost more?
The vast majority of this forum is playing on a 1080p only console
sure it is. amd is going to have new chips and new processes by november, and the 40CU 5700Xt already boosts to 1905 mhz. New 7+ process alone should give them 10% more clocks.
I agree 2ghz is still aggressive though, just hardly impossible.
Found this in the PS5 sub reddit, how likely is this scenario to be true?
Dude. Please let's bury this and end the conspiracy.
bsFound this in the PS5 sub reddit, how likely is this scenario to be true?
and to that i will say,Found this in the PS5 sub reddit, how likely is this scenario to be true?
that cerny already told us the RT acceleration is done on the GPU.
If you had legit info the last thing that you should do is post it online for clout.
Also you might not want to upset a multi billion dollar conpany by breaking NDA. An NDA is a binding contract, and companies will be sure to enforce them and take them seriously. if someone breaks an NDA just to become an insider on a gaming forum, they can get sued and also even pay financial damages to the company. These lawsuits and fines are serious money, especially since the person is sharing industry secrets.
I like you enough to not see you deal with that.
I like you enough to not see you deal with that.
Wth???
Why did Sony remove this tweet?
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See you this holiday.
Does that mean the PS5 won't release this year?
Why did Sony remove this tweet?
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See you this holiday.
Does that mean the PS5 won't release this year?
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Just to try to catch up:
What's the WORST case scenario for the PS5? And would that still be good or disappoint?
What's the WORST case scenario for the PS5? And would that still be good or disappoint?
AMD provides a chip for a Surface, there might have something in the pipe that fits a form like a portable device.
Besides, who knows.. perhaps when docked the machine goes up to 4TF thanks to an extra chip in the dock.
That's exactly what it means.
No honestly it could have been that the replies were super inappropriate gifs or it made people think the PS5 would be huge.
Found this in the PS5 sub reddit, how likely is this scenario to be true?
Its complete rubbish,
- Having a seperate chip for raytracing is a poor decision and would likely lead to poor performance.
- The AMD raytracing is implemented in the TMUs using fixed function intersection hardware and it is highly likely that this is the raytracing that Microsoft is implementing (and Sony too, but I have no proof of this) based off the blocks I found in the GitHub leaks. These fixed function units are likely not measured in FLOPs, and therefore them having 'TFLOPS' doesn't really make sense.
the 15w chip is interesting It I'd expect it to go over 15w with all cores + GPU blazing. But still good to see
as For clock speed / power improvements for Navi - I'll wait and see. Too many times AMD have talked about improvements but they still tend to run hot/suck power. Hopefully customer pressure from MS and Sony will result in improvements, and the 4800 shows there is room for improvement. So fingers crossed
For those wondering what the tweet is, here's a link to the cached version up on Google: https://webcache.googleusercontent....1214354594114891776+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
And no I don't think so. Jim Ryan was clear that it was launching this holiday. Not sure why the tweet has been deleted though.
To me doesn't make sense . Why would cerny say it's gpu accelerated if it's on a completely separate chip and not gpu ?Found this in the PS5 sub reddit, how likely is this scenario to be true?
Yeah probably it is more expansive but we are talking about boxes that will sell for the next 5-7 years.
Of course, I do not need USB-C just for the charging of a controller but USB-A is limited to USB3 speeds and there USB3.1 or even 3.2 would help a lot. PLUS the port could theoretically be used for DP but I do not know if it is in the USB specification or it would need more controller chips like for thunderbolt.
Personally I think it would be cheap from MS to have non USB-C ports but it is what I expected as it took them forever to incorporate it into the surface line. I think it is the same as when the only got a HDMI port with the Slim.
That is a reasonable theory! The question is just if it is economically reasonable to develop Oberon only to test BC before the final chip is ready? Would it be possible to use it for a PS4Pro super slim?
Yeah those Surfaces are killer. I went with a Lenovo Yoga instead because of the price/use case for me but they are attractive devices.
I would love to understand the engineering marvel at getting a second chip outside the main unit to interact with each other. Designing how that would all work would be insanity haha
don't Sony already have the semi-propriety XQD format for cameras? Not sure I can see reram as a removable storage, and wouldn't cameras use cheaper/faster ram for active buffering?
Found this in the PS5 sub reddit, how likely is this scenario to be true?
BS. RT is on the GPU by Cerny own words.
Found this in the PS5 sub reddit, how likely is this scenario to be true?
lol. PS5 doomed yet again
or you know, you are reading into stuff way too much, again.
Still putting claims or infos or stuff then deleting them or even closing accounts has a story behind it.
More likely it means they will see you sometime before holiday 2020, like for example in Feb for a PS meeting. Or in June for an E3 conference.
LOL I will probably play PS5 or XSX games on a 1080p TV as I intended to wait for 2021 for a new TV.
but would you Buy a console in November 2020 that plays at 1080p if you're replacing your TV less than 12 months later?
That post has PS5 written 4 times, this hints at this console being to play all past gen PlayStation games, that Sony didn't want to divulge yet.
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The dream of ReRAM seems to be to eventually replace NAND, I'm not sure what shape or form we can expect it in yet though.
Ah well, wait and see 😃
Probably because it said "See you this holiday" which may have led some to believe we wouldn't be hearing ANYTHING until then, which would go against their CES messaging that we would hear more in the coming months. It's a small difference, and yes most people would assume they meant the actual launch, but it may have been one of those "can't be too careful" cases.
Yeah from what I remember they are touting it as scaling better then NAND (eventually) so it should be cheaper at smaller process nodes. Dreams of a mid gen refresh with ReRAM replacing SSD :P
I agree with this, even people that currently have 1080p TV's will need to consider whether they want to buy a new console that will only ever do 1080p even after they eventually upgrade their TV to 4K. We've never seen a console launch with 2 sku's that are so different in terms of power though, so it's hard to guess how the market would react.
Yeah, seems legit. /sFound this in the PS5 sub reddit, how likely is this scenario to be true?
To me that sounds very reasonable. I just don't understand why people assume that Oberon has gone/will go to waste ? Oberon has given the devs one year extra to get familiar with the api and dev tools and custom ssd while waiting for final apu to be ready. So they get their game running on ps5 hardware rather than looking at target spec sheet.
that's has to be worth it for Sony to spend that few million dollars on and get as many games as possible running on ps5 imo
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I'm really hoping that mobile phones will cause reram to take off and bring its price down while providing money to get larger capacity...
...then make the PS5 Portable with 1TB of ReRAM 😜
Found this in the PS5 sub reddit, how likely is this scenario to be true?
I thought the Xbox was meant to have 56 Compute Units functional out of 60, not 52 out of 56.
Edit, that has to be bullshit, especially the PS5 raytracing chip.
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