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PS5 and Xbox Series speculation launch thread |OT9| - For flops sake!
- Thread starter Mecha Meister
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In my very humble opinion, there will be some PS5-related info at CES.
I think that VGA XSX reveal was a bit of surprise for Sony, and they've tried to counter it ASAP, resulting in somewhat strange Godfall announcement. No offense to devs, but I'm pretty sure that 3rd party game from not so famous team won't be the best representative of next gen abilities. Imagine PS4 reveal with something like Contrast or Outlast, graphics wise.
Most likely Godfall was the only (timed/console)-exclusive game with teaser available, so Sony just went with it, and reception wasn't that hot in result.
And that's why now I expect CES to have something like reveal date announcement and exclusive game teaser/announcement with closer to Hellblade 2 level of impression, most likely first party... and I expect MS to announce something within couple of days of PS5 reveal event as well.
I think that VGA XSX reveal was a bit of surprise for Sony, and they've tried to counter it ASAP, resulting in somewhat strange Godfall announcement. No offense to devs, but I'm pretty sure that 3rd party game from not so famous team won't be the best representative of next gen abilities. Imagine PS4 reveal with something like Contrast or Outlast, graphics wise.
Most likely Godfall was the only (timed/console)-exclusive game with teaser available, so Sony just went with it, and reception wasn't that hot in result.
And that's why now I expect CES to have something like reveal date announcement and exclusive game teaser/announcement with closer to Hellblade 2 level of impression, most likely first party... and I expect MS to announce something within couple of days of PS5 reveal event as well.
Unfortunately there's no solid evidence of anything so far, so any speculation is pretty much valid at this point.
He'll pull out 13tf though ;)
Seriously though, XSX turned out to be more powerful than I expected, no doubt about that, but since I still believe Sony will have a more powerful box that means that I think PS5 will be around 13tf. Can't back it up in any way but this is what I'm going with until proven false by official figures or DF after the launched.
Lol, are people seriously entertaining the idea that a ps5pro with only like 25% more power is going to release the same day. This would be an absolutely horrible decision on Sony's part...
You're speaking way too much sense..
I for one can't wait for the reveal :)
I highly doubt Sony had any say other than maybe giving their okay in Godfall dropping a trailer.
Also, I think if there were something coming from CES (something substantial), they've be advertising that by now. But who knows, the most concrete stuff about the console was dropped in a wired article out of nowhere.
You mean industry professionals like Alex from DF who was also wondering if maybe multipliers were used in lieu of hard numbers because of the difference in performance between rDNS and GCN?
To be clear, I responded to your assertion that people questioning outright TF numbers must be bad at math. Reasonable people do have cause to question these things without being insulted.
Well the XB1X had a high enough price tag, with the S being the low priced standard model.
If the Series X really is 12TF RDNA2 with RT + Zen CPU + 16GB RAM + SSD, it ain't going to be cheap.
If Lockhart isn't real, or at least isn't day 1, then I could see the X being cheaper but if they are both there day 1, the X could be priced high to cover the cutting edge tech inside the box.
Also Microsoft doesn't seem too concerned about selling the most hardware these days and more concerned about selling their services (Game Pass subscriptions + XBL) with X Cloud Streaming, bringing their games and services to PC as well, Xbox has become more of a service than just one box.
I agree. Some people though, think it's a bad idea for 2 SKUs at launch.
Socom by GG would be intersting especially with some Seig devs being hired into GG recently
if R&C was also included as a launch game then man what a launch
Whats stopping from sony doing the same thing? There was an article talking about how profitable psn was, not to mention all the new services they are going to be doing when the ps5 launches. In fact jim ryan himself mentioned that next gen is going to be about content and services. I think sony can subsidize the launch of the ps5
Then why did they give okay? First video of your next-gen console game is pretty huge, one can assume that it should be as perfect as possible. Hellblade delivered, while Godfall - again in my humble opinion - didn't. I mean I was more excited for Deep Down at PS4 reveal than for this... looter.
Flagship means it's your high end thing; more rare than your non flagship of anything.
Usually used for retailers to describe their biggest / most elaborate location. (Microsoft's flagship Ms Store I believe is the one in Seattle's U-Village for instance, their mall kiosks on the other hand are more common.)
If I'm me (and I am), I'd just wait until I can afford the more expensive box. Anything at or under a 100 dollar difference, and I bet that most people would agree with that sentiment.
Besides, just the notion of launching 2 SKU's so close to one another, in a period of time where the limiting factor will almost undoubtedly be production capacity, makes no sense to me. You want all that production capacity going towards a single box, to be able to keep up with demand.
The original rumored specs were 4TF LH, 8TF PS5, 12TF XSX until a couple of insiders started saying otherwise.
Hence why I highly doubt Sony did anything but give their okay.
Anyway, people aren't dumb. Godfall looks amazing for being developed by an indie team, and that will be put into its proper context once the PS5 is officially unveiled and shown beside whatever magic first party Sony studios are cooking up.
Nothing, Sony could do that too. Even at 9TF, the tech in the PS5 won't be cheap either but being a less powerful box, would likely give them a price advantage.
All speculation though, it could go either way for both Microsoft and Sony, depending on their strategy going into next gen.
What? When was XSX ever 12tf and PS5 8?
Since last E3 PS5 has been over XSX in terms of power.
Cerny said they would need 8TF (GCN) minimum to get 4K native for PS4 games.
LMAO
read the last paragraph
edit - you removed it but it was a pretty well done rick-roll (not intentionally by you of course)
I just think it's weird to design an APU for the dev kit. From my experience, it's more common for iterations of a chip to be related to fixing problems discovered during test, not necessarily major functional changes.
That said, my experience may not translate over.
"GPU - RDNA 2 with 52CUs at 2Ghz (13.3Tflops) "
lol, yeah right...ignore it.
edit: haha,i also stopped reading after 52CU at 2GHZ :)
I thought it was hilarious. They had me in the first half 😂😂😂
I predict that Sony is trying to get a GT game for launch day for the PS5.
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With the ps5 coming out, very few people would buy a $499 xbox series x regardless tho.
Agreed.
If there is a PS5 Pro on day 1 it makes sense to cough up the extra money.
Even $200 is negligible when you consider you'll get a superior experience for 6 years straight.
I don't think the idea is any worse than having a -massive- difference the way MS is doing it.
R&C + Demon Souls complement each other well because both will show off the power of the hardware, but with two entirely different art styles
Might be a dumb question, but why doesn't PS4 Pro support 1440p? (looks blurry). I hope native 1440p is an option for PS5.
It'd make more sense at least, because you basically want both SKU's to address different and clearly defined market segments from the get-go.
What i want to know most in the upcoming PS5 reveal more than the GPU power reveal is what Sonys 'secret sauce' turns out to be, actually hoping that it will be as big as the out of the blue 8GB GDDR5 bombshell we got last time that left developers jaw dropped.
Because it's not a native resolution supported by many TVs.
Whatever it is, they're leaving it unusually late. Must be big.
If the Github unit was using a discrete GPU and CPU is it within the realm of possibility that AMD configured it to be read as an APU by the software for compatibility purposes when developing the games? Would that even be needed if it were discrete components?
Ah, makes sense. Hopefully 4K stable 30 fps becomes the standard for PS5, and performance issues aren't really a thing at 4K.
People are desperate for 12tf PS5 they will come up with all sort of things to make it fit.
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