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PS5 and Xbox Series speculation launch thread |OT9| - For flops sake!
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Screw exotic tech. It largely just makes things more complicated and cumbersome for already-overworked devs. Straightforward, powerful, off-the-shelf tech is all we need, the resulting awesome games will be the exciting part.
Yeah. 3D audio is going to be amazing.
I think there are heat sink fins on both sides, and the PSU may be outside and the GPU in the center.
he has said its a completely new IP, so I take that as not some sort of existing Franchise.
It's certainly possible. It's part of the reason GPUs moved to IF, in fact, and in can be more cost effective from a raw compute standpoint. AFR has microstutter and tearing issues, but Split Frame Rendering could address some of that.
But financially bad. We are getting the latest technology, most efficient technology with fantastic ease of use for developers across the globe. Everyone wins.
There's also that checkerboard thing in the nvidia drivers, though maybe that's patented?
Ahh, I wasnt aware it was a new IP, only knew it was a next gen only, open world multiplatform game.
New gen and new IPs. Exciting year ahead for us all.
Yes, both Sony and Microsoft are getting big navu as their chips.
I'm not talking absolute specifics, just in relation to what the technology was for the current generation.
I'm guessing SSDs are going to help then, hopefully they will optimise the packages. Copying from disc is frustratingly slow.
AMD could do the same, but Nvidia's method sounds more inter-GPU bandwidth dependent because they can't take advantage of nearest neighbor approximations or spatial locality on a single GPU. It seems the least likely to result in artifacting or tearing, though.
What's exciting (for me) is that developers are excited. I don't even recall this level of enthusiasm from so many devs (both small and large) during the transition to PS4/XBO.
Colbert : for what I know Intel still don't deliver Thunderbolt certification for non-Intel platform. Also TB3 would require full speed PCI-E lines, and it's a protocol useful for low-latency, daisy chaining and to transport AV signal independently of datas. Controllers aren't cheap as USB. A full speed 5/10Gbs USB3.1 seems enough in a console for datas management when you have a good internal and external drive.
I don't think he said it would be ready for launch.
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probably because usb4 will be when amd finally gets thunderbolt, since it's part of the spec and all
I wonder if it is also a reference to Jim Ryan's "fastest transition". So many people take that to mean price point - I leave that door open to different interpretation given what has been said about hardware.
Yeah, I would really like Ryan to elaborate a bit on that quote. I guess we'll have to wait a little bit more for that though. :)
Indeed. But if your console is simply too expensive for the mass market you can throw all those plans in the dirt.
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Pretty much everything he said looked great👍
Cross-play
Lower barriers to entry
etc.
I have no idea who you're talking to or to which message you're responding. I didn't say multiple GPUs were happening, and I didn't even mention HBM.
You don't know for sure, so maybe it is happening. Don't be so certain
Or do you have sources? If so please enlighten us :)
If there is one environment where dual GPUs could work is in a closed, single configuration, purpose-built API one like consoles.
Are we discussing dual GPU because:
1.) someone posted a 1400 MHz GPU with a similar CPU as Flute and people imagine 2x?
2.) we hare having a hard time with perceived GPU power disparity?
3.) Mark Cerny's PS4 Pro "Butterfly" comment?
4.) Ariel and Oberon are distinct names for PS5 GPU?
5.) ???
1.) someone posted a 1400 MHz GPU with a similar CPU as Flute and people imagine 2x?
2.) we hare having a hard time with perceived GPU power disparity?
3.) Mark Cerny's PS4 Pro "Butterfly" comment?
4.) Ariel and Oberon are distinct names for PS5 GPU?
5.) ???
You may read again. It is not about persons, it is about how the information is given.In the context of approaches. I said:
Wouldn't you agree that it is a believe system (or trust system) if you take somebodies word as true without be able to check the information?
It is also always nice to see how subtle insults can be. Like yours. But I its more funny than bothering
I assume we'll get more details over the weekend then.
I would Imagine it'll be for more of the other tech stuff and not PS5 stuff such as Walkmans and TVs
or no details, as Sony Electronics is an almost entirely seperate organisation to Playstation.
I don't know who started this but here are my numbers (assuming 0=no way and 10=for sure)
5,0,0,0,0,5,0
5,0,0,0,0,5,0
On the (Oh so predictable) visuals side of things, y'all reckon, that we may finally go from this:
to this:
Or from this:
To this:
In real time? (i.e. implementation of and higher precision SSS, higher quality and more nuanced shadow maps like seen during "in-engine" cutscenes")
to this:
Or from this:
To this:
In real time? (i.e. implementation of and higher precision SSS, higher quality and more nuanced shadow maps like seen during "in-engine" cutscenes")
Yes, probably the smoothest transition ever.
Digiital store, F2P titles and enchanced backlog should be there day 1, so even if launch line up sucks, you aren't screwed like in the past.
It does make you wonder if we really will get the "hard" change that you normally get. Microsoft talked long ago about wanting to make games that are forwards compatible. I wonder if the software is going to sit in a grey area between gens on both machines.
Having BC for last gen machines is essential to both manufactuers, as they rake in the cash from fortnite and Apex and whatnot by basically having to do nothing, so they really don't want to lose those whales
On the (Oh so predictable) visuals side of things, y'all reckon, that we may finally go from this:
to this:
Or from this:
To this:
In real time? (i.e. implementation of and higher precision SSS, higher quality and more nuanced shadow maps like seen during "in-engine" cutscenes")
Aren't Gears5 cutscenes mostly all realtime?
You'll have the same thing again, the cinematic models will always be higher quality. I'd argue that if the character only occupies such a tiny area on screen as what you showed in the first example, then it would quite frankly be wasteful to have it at the same quality.
Especially if you are going to continue aping movies by avoiding high framerate cutscenes.
exactly
For sure they do not want to lose that $$$. I think there is room for everyone under the umbrella. Some studios will push the bleeding edge, others will focus on content, service and recurring revenue.
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