Interesting, I honestly thought they were a bit further behind than that.
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Interesting, I honestly thought they were a bit further behind than that.
Interesting; but not sure how that explains the CEO's comment of only hearing a rumor about the power of the XSX.
But either way, being that he has only heard rumors.. he's not some great source of info IMO, I thought his comments on not being able to really develop for the SSD were more interesting lol
In the article this guy calls the specs of the Series X huge (he has only heard rumours of the specs). He also seems pretty positive about it. Definitely didn't get the impression that he's favoring either console.
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Gotta say that this doesn't mean PS is more powerful but probably more friendly to developers. It can be tools, documentation, support, specific tech, etc.
Why would they? Its a secondary source / commentary. you can get enough of that here, and better.
in terms of an initial silicon tape out yes, they were. Oberon had been out for months. OG dev kits are just PC specs and recommended hardware.
I know! Does his comments make any sense? Doubt.gif
So that tech site I assume is bullshit lol. 8GB of RAM was the most likely giveaway?
In what universe would Sony be dumb enough to stick to the same amount of RAM? Even if it is GDDR6.
In what universe would Sony be dumb enough to stick to the same amount of RAM? Even if it is GDDR6.
If you're bored and want a fun bit of fan-fiction then I give you the latest Pastebin! :)
Random Bits of Info I've heard:
Capcom:
- One of the future DLC characters for Smash is a Capcom Rep but they are pulling a SE by sending out a ton of different names. I've heard Dante, Phoenix Wright and even Arthur
- Capcom is working on more Megaman games. They included Megaman 12, X9, and a Legends 1 & 2 Remake Collection. X9 specifically is a Stadia timed exclusive for 1 year
- Dino Crisis is getting a remake to try and test interest in the IP
- A new MH game is coming that is exclusive to Switch and will use some of the new features and ideas Monster Hunter World introduced
- Marvel Vs Capcom 4 does exist but very little is know besides it's definitely next gen.
- Street Fighter 5 DLC is planning to wrap up in 2020 so they can start on SF6 for next gen systems
- Ultimate Marvel Vs Capcom 3 is coming to Switch
Konami:
- Rouge Corps did so bad that the DLC is possibly being cancelled and the Contra IP is being shelved indefinitely
- Bloodstained is forbidden to be talked about in the offices
- Mobile versions of there pachinko machines are coming
- Bomberman Heros and 64 are getting a remake collection exclusive to Switch
Activision/Blizzard:
- Mobile department at Blizzard is amping up production ten fold and expect a lot more Blizzard mobile games, including a Warcraft mobile game in the style of Pokémon Go, and an Overwatch mobile game is being fast tracked after the success of Call of Duty Mobile
- Starcraft FPS is being considered for a revival as since Destiny is no longer being made with them, Activision needs a new sci-fi schlooter
- New Crash game is being made, takes heavy inspiration from the classic games and the title is even being considered to be called Crash Bandicoot 4.
- Black Ops 5 is full steam ahead
- Pro Skater Remake of 1 and 2 is real, should be a 2021 launch
- Skylanders is getting revived but the figures are not coming back, instead there being replaced with a gatcha system and it's going to be free to start mobile title.
Ubisoft:
- Mario + Rabbids 2 does exist and is progressing very well. It'll release in 2020. It will also have Rayman as a major part of the game's story in it.
- BG&E2 is not progressing well at all. It looks rough and it barely runs at all. Only good things I can say is that the pre rendered cutscenes all look really good and that the story is planned out
- The delays of R6Q, G&M, and WDL, are all to get them to be ported to next gen as to be cross gen titles
- Next AC is viking themed and brings back the boat features from Black Flag
- New 2D Rayman in the works, uses same artstyle and engine as Legends and Origins. Also a new 3D Rayman is being prototyped.
Rockstar:
- Bringing GTA 3, San Andres, Vice City, Red Dead Redemption 1, Bully, and GTA5 to Switch. GTA5 will be one of the first games to use the 64 GB cartridges.
- Bully 2 is going to be announced some time in 2020. It's set in a college town.
- GTA6 is in production for next gen systems. It's going to be set in the entire state of Florida, where you can travel through the entire state. Sony has in fact payed for timed exclusivity for 6 months after launch. They payed a hefty fee for it. This time it will also feature a women as one of the three main protagonists.
Xbox Game Studios/Microsoft:
- New Fable game is the big announcement for E3 this year, it's exclusive to the Series X, no Xbox One port
- Halo Infinite will get its first gameplay trailer before E3
- Hellblade 2 gets gameplay at E3
- Cuphead DLC is Xbox timed exclusive for 3 months
- Remake of Banjo Kazooie and Tooie coming to the Series X and Xbox One
- Series X will be $499 and comes bundled with Halo Infinite, which launches the same day
- Ton of games getting Series X enhancement updates which allow them to look even better and run faster. First one to get this update will be Gears 5
- They're going to be buying a Japanese studio but after that they've decided to take a break from buyouts to save money to invest more in development of games.
- Push for more diversity of genre in their exclusives
- Halo 1, 2, 3, Reach, and Rare Replay all coming to Switch
- Game Pass will be combined with Project XCloud and create a streaming and downloading service called Game Pass X. You can stream and download to play any game in the library of Game Pass X, although downloading only works on consoles
- Windows 10 will work on Series X, but only to browse the web
- Region locking is gone on Series X, and the Series X is backwards compatible with every Xbox disc ever
Sony:
- Spider-Man 2 is a PS5 exclusive and will be announced at E3 2019
- Speaking of which Sony has decided to return to E3 but no press conference, just a State of Play and a booth on the showfloor
- PS5 is $499, no region locking, and is backwards compatible with every PlayStation disc ever
- PSVR will work with the system but not much is planned for it in terms of new games besides a sequel to Astro Bot
- Last of Us 2 will get an upgraded port for PS5 on launch
- Horizon Zero Dawn 2 is a launch title for PS5
Nintendo:
- No information on Smash besides the Capcom DLC and that I only know because of a Capcom source. Smash leaks seem to have dried up.
- Animal Crossing Switch Lite variant is coming
- Pokémon Diamond and Pearl remakes are next year's Pokémon games and will have the ability to transfer every Pokémon to that game after the backlash of SwSh, which while it didn't effect sales, was considered a PR blunder internally
- Tomodachi Life sequel is coming
- Was some rumors that they were interested in buying out Level 5 but nothing concrete
Besthada:
- Fallout 4 port for Switch, uses 64 GB cartridge
- Fallout 76 is still being worked on and the plan is to try and make a come back somehow
- Starfield is planned to get a full reveal at E3, and is set to launch in 2022
- Fallout 5 has started early planning and prototyping. Don't expect it for at least 3 years
- New Vegas will be getting an HD remaster on all platforms, including switch, as a sort of apology to Fallout fans after the 76 disaster. It'll include all the DLC.
- Eternal was delayed mainly to fix the multiplayer which has been very buggy and laggy. They do not want a repeat of the 76 launch and are making sure the online features and multiplayer works as best it can. The Switch port is planned for the Fall.
SEGA:
- Sonic Adventure Remake is coming
- Mania 2 is a 2020 title, and is pretty much almost done
- Team Sonic Racing major DLC update with new characters and tracks, including an appearance from AiAi from Super Monkey Ball
- Dreamcast SEGA Ages titles finally happening
- Super Monkey Ball 1,2, and 3 are getting HD remakes, and will be released on Switch first as a timed exclusive in 2021
- Chao Garden Mobile is like the chao garden from SA2 but with a more mobile friendly design and a gatcha system for variant chaos
Google/Stadia:
- 3D Platformer staring the Dinosaur from the offline dinosaur game
- Lots of studios pulling out and ending stadia support and Google is fighting hard to get some to stay
- The only reason X9 is stadia timed exclusive is because Google payed big time for it
- Google doesn't seem to be ending support of the project for at least 2 years but after that the future of stadia is uncertain
- They have noted the ads are cringe inducing and are bad, and plan to try a new strategy for them
- New color scheme for the controller is coming: Silver and Gold
Netherrealm:
- Injustice 3 is going to be the first next gen title from them
- MK11 Port to PS5 and Series X
- Marvel Vs DC is being floated around with Marvel but it likely won't happen
- Future MK11 DLC includes Goro, Doomslayer, and Ed Boon himself as a free joke character
Random Bits of Info I've heard:
Capcom:
- One of the future DLC characters for Smash is a Capcom Rep but they are pulling a SE by sending out a ton of different names. I've heard Dante, Phoenix Wright and even Arthur
- Capcom is working on more Megaman games. They included Megaman 12, X9, and a Legends 1 & 2 Remake Collection. X9 specifically is a Stadia timed exclusive for 1 year
- Dino Crisis is getting a remake to try and test interest in the IP
- A new MH game is coming that is exclusive to Switch and will use some of the new features and ideas Monster Hunter World introduced
- Marvel Vs Capcom 4 does exist but very little is know besides it's definitely next gen.
- Street Fighter 5 DLC is planning to wrap up in 2020 so they can start on SF6 for next gen systems
- Ultimate Marvel Vs Capcom 3 is coming to Switch
Konami:
- Rouge Corps did so bad that the DLC is possibly being cancelled and the Contra IP is being shelved indefinitely
- Bloodstained is forbidden to be talked about in the offices
- Mobile versions of there pachinko machines are coming
- Bomberman Heros and 64 are getting a remake collection exclusive to Switch
Activision/Blizzard:
- Mobile department at Blizzard is amping up production ten fold and expect a lot more Blizzard mobile games, including a Warcraft mobile game in the style of Pokémon Go, and an Overwatch mobile game is being fast tracked after the success of Call of Duty Mobile
- Starcraft FPS is being considered for a revival as since Destiny is no longer being made with them, Activision needs a new sci-fi schlooter
- New Crash game is being made, takes heavy inspiration from the classic games and the title is even being considered to be called Crash Bandicoot 4.
- Black Ops 5 is full steam ahead
- Pro Skater Remake of 1 and 2 is real, should be a 2021 launch
- Skylanders is getting revived but the figures are not coming back, instead there being replaced with a gatcha system and it's going to be free to start mobile title.
Ubisoft:
- Mario + Rabbids 2 does exist and is progressing very well. It'll release in 2020. It will also have Rayman as a major part of the game's story in it.
- BG&E2 is not progressing well at all. It looks rough and it barely runs at all. Only good things I can say is that the pre rendered cutscenes all look really good and that the story is planned out
- The delays of R6Q, G&M, and WDL, are all to get them to be ported to next gen as to be cross gen titles
- Next AC is viking themed and brings back the boat features from Black Flag
- New 2D Rayman in the works, uses same artstyle and engine as Legends and Origins. Also a new 3D Rayman is being prototyped.
Rockstar:
- Bringing GTA 3, San Andres, Vice City, Red Dead Redemption 1, Bully, and GTA5 to Switch. GTA5 will be one of the first games to use the 64 GB cartridges.
- Bully 2 is going to be announced some time in 2020. It's set in a college town.
- GTA6 is in production for next gen systems. It's going to be set in the entire state of Florida, where you can travel through the entire state. Sony has in fact payed for timed exclusivity for 6 months after launch. They payed a hefty fee for it. This time it will also feature a women as one of the three main protagonists.
Xbox Game Studios/Microsoft:
- New Fable game is the big announcement for E3 this year, it's exclusive to the Series X, no Xbox One port
- Halo Infinite will get its first gameplay trailer before E3
- Hellblade 2 gets gameplay at E3
- Cuphead DLC is Xbox timed exclusive for 3 months
- Remake of Banjo Kazooie and Tooie coming to the Series X and Xbox One
- Series X will be $499 and comes bundled with Halo Infinite, which launches the same day
- Ton of games getting Series X enhancement updates which allow them to look even better and run faster. First one to get this update will be Gears 5
- They're going to be buying a Japanese studio but after that they've decided to take a break from buyouts to save money to invest more in development of games.
- Push for more diversity of genre in their exclusives
- Halo 1, 2, 3, Reach, and Rare Replay all coming to Switch
- Game Pass will be combined with Project XCloud and create a streaming and downloading service called Game Pass X. You can stream and download to play any game in the library of Game Pass X, although downloading only works on consoles
- Windows 10 will work on Series X, but only to browse the web
- Region locking is gone on Series X, and the Series X is backwards compatible with every Xbox disc ever
Sony:
- Spider-Man 2 is a PS5 exclusive and will be announced at E3 2019
- Speaking of which Sony has decided to return to E3 but no press conference, just a State of Play and a booth on the showfloor
- PS5 is $499, no region locking, and is backwards compatible with every PlayStation disc ever
- PSVR will work with the system but not much is planned for it in terms of new games besides a sequel to Astro Bot
- Last of Us 2 will get an upgraded port for PS5 on launch
- Horizon Zero Dawn 2 is a launch title for PS5
Nintendo:
- No information on Smash besides the Capcom DLC and that I only know because of a Capcom source. Smash leaks seem to have dried up.
- Animal Crossing Switch Lite variant is coming
- Pokémon Diamond and Pearl remakes are next year's Pokémon games and will have the ability to transfer every Pokémon to that game after the backlash of SwSh, which while it didn't effect sales, was considered a PR blunder internally
- Tomodachi Life sequel is coming
- Was some rumors that they were interested in buying out Level 5 but nothing concrete
Besthada:
- Fallout 4 port for Switch, uses 64 GB cartridge
- Fallout 76 is still being worked on and the plan is to try and make a come back somehow
- Starfield is planned to get a full reveal at E3, and is set to launch in 2022
- Fallout 5 has started early planning and prototyping. Don't expect it for at least 3 years
- New Vegas will be getting an HD remaster on all platforms, including switch, as a sort of apology to Fallout fans after the 76 disaster. It'll include all the DLC.
- Eternal was delayed mainly to fix the multiplayer which has been very buggy and laggy. They do not want a repeat of the 76 launch and are making sure the online features and multiplayer works as best it can. The Switch port is planned for the Fall.
SEGA:
- Sonic Adventure Remake is coming
- Mania 2 is a 2020 title, and is pretty much almost done
- Team Sonic Racing major DLC update with new characters and tracks, including an appearance from AiAi from Super Monkey Ball
- Dreamcast SEGA Ages titles finally happening
- Super Monkey Ball 1,2, and 3 are getting HD remakes, and will be released on Switch first as a timed exclusive in 2021
- Chao Garden Mobile is like the chao garden from SA2 but with a more mobile friendly design and a gatcha system for variant chaos
Google/Stadia:
- 3D Platformer staring the Dinosaur from the offline dinosaur game
- Lots of studios pulling out and ending stadia support and Google is fighting hard to get some to stay
- The only reason X9 is stadia timed exclusive is because Google payed big time for it
- Google doesn't seem to be ending support of the project for at least 2 years but after that the future of stadia is uncertain
- They have noted the ads are cringe inducing and are bad, and plan to try a new strategy for them
- New color scheme for the controller is coming: Silver and Gold
Netherrealm:
- Injustice 3 is going to be the first next gen title from them
- MK11 Port to PS5 and Series X
- Marvel Vs DC is being floated around with Marvel but it likely won't happen
- Future MK11 DLC includes Goro, Doomslayer, and Ed Boon himself as a free joke character
This might have been relevant 10 years ago, now all consoles basically run the same toolset and have similar APIs. This "easier to develop for" is actually complete nonsense. The only thing you could probably say is that the devkit has more mature tools atm.
Wait why is dealer banned here? I get that he is basically a MS ad but he did break the 12tf story before Windows central and has had "some" ok incite into both consoles. Is there something he has done I should know about? Talking a twitter he seems like a nice guy that's just way to into MS. (Nothing wrong with that but non biased opinions are generally better imo)
Blow initially released The Witness solely on PS4 and PC. So if he's going to do the same for this upcoming project, it would make sense for him to not have an XSX dev kit.
lol yeah it was an amusing read. I can only guess what Sony would have to pay to Rockstar to secure a 6 month exclusive deal on GTA6.
The biggest dead giveaway of how fake these things are is that nobody has that many sources to that many major companies.
Or Mk11 getting a port to consoles that both have backwards compat
When was this? I thought Tom Warren was first on that news?
Haha. It was funny at first and by the time I finished reading, it was funniest and hilarious.
I'm still hopeful that Lockhart will be a little more than 4TF. I think it should be a step ahead of X1X, not equal or slightly better.
Agreed! Microsoft (Minecraft Team) also does not have PS5 dev kits to date is what I have read. There will certainly be exceptions to the rule when it come to these types of studios.
Maybe I worded that wrong when this ( https://www.windowscentral.com/xbox-scarlett-anaconda-lockhart-specs ) story broke Dealer had the same scoop with sources up hours earlier.
But either way I'm not trying to vouch for him just curious as to why he would be banned and if there's something I need to know so I can actively avoid him if necessary
One of the verified folks on here said that the devs he knows with devkits just have one person or a small group getting their current-gen game up and running on the devkit...make of that what you will
The way I see it Sony are targeting a price point, either £399 or £450 max.
PS5 is built to a price so I think it'll come in at 10.5TF maybe a bit more. Which is still an awesome console with power. Now if only they can have BC with PS1-3 would be awesome.
X Series is targeted at people who want the most power and don't mind paying £499-599. So the X series will have more power but the price will reflect that.
I will be pleasently surprised if the PS4 is equal or close to X. 1.5TF less at £100 cheaper is fantastic
PS5 is built to a price so I think it'll come in at 10.5TF maybe a bit more. Which is still an awesome console with power. Now if only they can have BC with PS1-3 would be awesome.
X Series is targeted at people who want the most power and don't mind paying £499-599. So the X series will have more power but the price will reflect that.
I will be pleasently surprised if the PS4 is equal or close to X. 1.5TF less at £100 cheaper is fantastic
It's not at all. Every company has its own tools for diverse stuff. This is like saying that develop to Android and IOS is the same thing. Every little difference that can improve your development time makes a difference for developers. I say that because I'm one.
I'd stay away from the comparisons as well. It just tells us what development is like on PS5. Between what Jim, Shu, and devs have said so far, it looks to be very well constructed (including tools and things of that nature) to make things as smooth as possible for devs.
Oh man, I was joking regarding that N64 expansion slot, even though I won't be surprised to see something similar for expending the SSD with a storage pack sold separately :)
IIRC the tests are from 2018 through mid 2019. 2018 is probably Ariel, mid 2019 is probably Oberon B0. AFAIK, mid 2019 is too late to redesign the SOC, at that point you can only play with clocks and replace/add/remove parts like memory modules unless you are willing to suffer delays and spend millions. But that's a question for Albert Penello..
Correct me if I don't remember well, but didn't both hmqgg and tomwarren hinted that the XSX is more powerful? I even recall Matt betting on MS going for the more powerful machine. Maybe my memory is failing me, that's not one of the things I follow strictly in this forum.
That's what I read too. And Phill, himself, said that in an interview. I guess Sony won't send them any devkit until Sony finalize everything.
I am one as well... and that is just nonsense. All toolsets are now virtually equal.
Third-party tools of course. Native ones have their differences.
Honestly, the Xbox stuff seems reasonable (which I guess supports it being fake, because that's how these things go). I scoffed at Halo Infinite being bundled with the XSX, but then I realized that they're probably giving away some months of Game Pass with anyone who buys one, and so basically since it's going to be included in Game Pass anyways making it free for all XSX owners actually makes a lot of sense.
It also got me thinking about how GamePass is such a great value proposition for Xbox Series X at launch. Once you include "three months of GamePass free" with each console, you're essentially bundling all the first-party launch content (plus the back catalog of course). That's actually pretty huge, especially for anyone who's on the fence between XBX and PS5.
Based on that, I wouldn't be surprised to see Sony do something like include at least a month of PS Now with PS5 purchases, and include GoW, HZD and Spiderman in the service. While it may not be a huge draw for current PS4 owners (who presumably already own those titles if they're interested), it would be a big draw for switchers.
I have £500 squared away for the PS5, console only or with camera/accessories etc.
Just need a preorder and release date, then back to destiny 2 until release.
Its fitter faster stronger than ps4 so not fused about final specs, just have a 4k player for my movies and I'm set.
Just need a preorder and release date, then back to destiny 2 until release.
Its fitter faster stronger than ps4 so not fused about final specs, just have a 4k player for my movies and I'm set.
There was actually some old leak, months and months ago, that had pretty much everything right ironically, if you believe the prevailing 12/9 TF stuff anyway. People ignored it at the time.
Dont have a source but saw somebody post it recently.
Dealer is a toxic console warrior. Anyone who says he isn't should really recalibrate their console war detector.
Iirc he made some homophobic remarks in the past, too.
Why would anyone try to defend this guy?
Ya it's not the money of a new console that hurts. It's the games with it that really makes your wallet hurt. XSX with gamepass at launch is ridiculous. Makes a 499-599 price not so bad since you're gonna already have dozen games off the bat. Halo infinite hopefully too.
Best way to put it. Throw in some predictions that are obvious (or already predicted). Mix in some fan fiction. Suddenly people buy into the bullshit fan-fiction because they think the obvious stuff gives it credibility. Being a fraud is an art.
Microsoft definitely knows what the PS5 is packing at this point.
Im sure Sony knows what the Series X is packing as well.
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