Ok... but... you all do know you can download over half the games on PS Now today, right?
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PS5 and Xbox Series speculation launch thread |OT9| - For flops sake!
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Ok... but... you all do know you can download over half the games on PS Now today, right?
This is no confirmation of anything. They are just telling it like it's some fact lmao without any sources or proof
I mainly talking about ps3 games and sorry for not clarifying. If they get all those to be downloadable and basically run in "boost mode" I think it will be a killer subscription service. (Correct me if I'm wrong again tho lol)
Well I take everything as a rumor until we have official info but still. Isn't there no time left to change in HW design?
Xbox ran huge promotion to convert XBL users to XGPU users. Like, folks had multiple years of XBLG that they upgraded to GPU for $1. I genuinely do not doubt they have significant numbers in the multiples of millions on the service.
I thought I was pretty straight forward about it? He's a lunatic. Anyone following him is incredibly gullible and should be ignored.
I am not aware of any people following this guy on Era - the exception being rbej, who was perma banned.
Phil saying "millions" of subscribers (as of November 2018): https://www.windowscentral.com/xbox-game-pass-already-enjoys-millions-subscribers-says-phil-spencer
Phil saying subscribers "doubled" in the last year: https://www.gamasutra.com/view/news..._doubled_as_its_library_continues_to_grow.php
EDIT: Worst case, "millions" refers to 1,000,001 users. Doubled growth in a year is fairly solid trajectory to over 2 Million now. It took PS Now service 5 years to crest even a million.
In my humble opinion i think both platform holders are targeting those 12/13 tf as gcn tf, so that would mean around 10 rdna tf if not mistaken, at least if they want to make them affordable and not repeat the ps3 pricing mistakes
I think the word nonsense is pretty clear. Not sure why you needed any clarity there. That person should seek true professional help and the people following them shouldn't be far behind.
You won't, but it's okay because there's extra eSRAM in the power brick
This would assume the stuff in that leak is "recent". We have very little to no context for that information, so it automatically makes speculation based on it faulty. We can't even be totally sure about what the codenames (Flute, etc...) represent.
With the way things are now, you can form practically any sort of narrative with the info in that leak.
I would ask you how do you balance the leak vs. the other information we've got from leakers/journalists? They are diametrically opposed to each other.
Should be cheaper though. PSNow is 5€ a month now if you buy a year, and PSplus even less with offers. So yearly fee should be less than 120€.
I have to admit, I'm not following your logic. Now I'm asking you for clarity because I'm not inferring anything from those posts besides "the twitter profile is full of nonsense and the people following them shouldn't be so gullible" which to me looks like sound advice.
Wow you are not kidding i looked at followers and i see more avatars and names i recognize then i though i would
PlayStation brand is too strong worldwide. I don't think anyone here expects MS to outsell the PS5, not even MS .
They can have s fighting chance saleswise in NA and the UK, and be successful through gamepass and PC, plus streaming, but they won't outsell them console wise WW
😂Okay I'll cut it out. Not sure why I'm trying to pick a fight tbh. New Year positivity.
My concern was that people are buying into his nonsense. I'm not insinuating anything other than the fact that he's crazy and the people following him aren't far behind.
That's not insensitive. That's stating the facts about someone who has literally been posting Xbox conspiracy theories for 7 years.
Very good, well-sourced post. Thanks.
I do want to say, I feel like a lot of people are going to be in for a rude awakening regarding prices. I think $499 is the CHEAPEST PS5 or Series X can be, and that's assuming them taking quite a loss.
PS4 was pretty affordable at $399 in 2013, and even then it was MUCH less competitive with higher-end PCs than PS5 and Series X will be. The only reason I think even think it will be $499 is because I don't believe either of them would be crazy enough to launch a single SKU at $599+. Of course, Series X could be $599 if they launch the Lockhart in the $399 range at the same time.
Yea that makes sense. I can see them doing something like that
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What is this? I'm not following what Colberts post has to do with your previous posts?
With the current rumor specs they can't launch loackhart that high .
We can talk all with want about RDNA or GCN but to most of the mass market a flop is a flop.
I mixed up the members. console lover was the one that brought Tiramisu into the discussion. Sorry.
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Tried to send you a PM about asking for a good Tiramisu recipe. Didn't work. Do you have one?
Lockhart will have a way better CPU in 2020 than PS4's was in 2013. A way better storage solution in 2020 than PS4's was in 2013. At least a comparable relative quality of GPU (with priorities shifting more towards next-gen visual effects than resolution). In most ways it will be a better 2020 console than PS4 was a 2013 console.
For the mass market a flop is something you put on your feet when you got to the beach. They have zero idea what it is.
I'm waiting for my 20TF+ 3080ti. Poor AMD, they really can't catch a break. But it was obvious when the 7nm 5700XT drew almost the same power as a 12nm 2080 ti .
Yeah, the mass market is clueless. The amount of customers that say they want to buy the Xbox One All-Digital Edition and then act surprised and decide against it when I tell them it doesn't have a disc-drive tells you everything. What did you think "All-Digital" meant?
Also had a customer get really mad at me when he asked me what the difference is between the Xbox One S and Xbox One X. I told him, "The One X is about 5x more powerful." He said, "That means absolutely nothing to me" so I told him, "in that case, I would save some money and get the One S, since you can play the same games on either." He called me a jerk and walked away.
Lesson is, the mass market doesn't have the slightest clue what a "flop" is, let alone that a "flop is a flop."
Also had a customer get really mad at me when he asked me what the difference is between the Xbox One S and Xbox One X. I told him, "The One X is about 5x more powerful." He said, "That means absolutely nothing to me" so I told him, "in that case, I would save some money and get the One S, since you can play the same games on either." He called me a jerk and walked away.
Lesson is, the mass market doesn't have the slightest clue what a "flop" is, let alone that a "flop is a flop."
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IDK +50% at -50%. Thats a very big jump. And with Nvidia you never know what metric is actually +50%. RT? Tensor? Compute?
Main thing I'd like PS+ to add is streaming of my digital purchases to Pc/Mac/iPad and to PS4/5 (eg a friends console where I don't want to download 100GB)
And online saves to be shared across all users on a home console. Can't believe that isn't already a thing
And online saves to be shared across all users on a home console. Can't believe that isn't already a thing
The primary differences in Game Pass and PS Now are:
1. The Tiers
PS Now is $9.99/mo or $59.99 per year
Game Pass is 9.99/mo. Game Pass PC is 4.99/mo. Game Pass Ultimate is 14.99 for both combined with Xbox Live Gold.
2. PS Now includes PS4 & PC streaming access in its subscription price today.
Game Pass technically offers a lower barrier to entry for Xbox Gaming on PC. Game Pass requires you to pay more to access PC & Console.
3. PS Now streams every title in its base subscription today.
Game Pass is working to match this feature with XCloud.
4. Game Pass offers pricing that includes downloads on PC.
PS Now will likely not be matching this feature anytime soon.
5. Game Pass promises first party content release parity with physical releases.
PS Now will likely not be matching this feature anytime soon.
6. PS Now offers a much larger library of titles numbering over 800 titles between PS2/PS3/PS4.
Game Pass offers <200 games in subscription.
7. Game Pass offers downloads of every title on any platform it is available.
PS Now only offers PS2/PS4 downloads. These are only available to download on PS4.
8. Game Pass has announced ambitions to bring the service to pretty much any device that can connect to 5G internet.
PS Now has no public promises of expanding availability beyond PS4+ Family & PC devices. (The expansion of Remote Play to iOS & Android devices would seemingly point to PS Now also coming, but no announced plans)
As I made this list I realized I forgot a couple changes I expect to happen over next couple years on the PS side of things:
- PS Now on iOS & Android with streaming access
- PlayStation PC Launcher update to facilitate game downloads on PC for PS Now.
I do not foresee a scenario where any PlayStation Exclusive launches day & date on PC anytime soon barring catastrophic collapse of the next generation for them.
For reference, 1 zettaFLOP = 10^9 teraFLOPs
Why are they using the most advanced supercomputers for weather modeling when they could be using it for gaming? The world needs to get its priorities straight.
2080 ti is only 250W and they are going straight from 12nm to 7nm UVE. Regarding power consumption, I don't really care, but 50% better performance? It makes a lot of sense. When NV went from 28nm to 16nm they've had 100% TF increase from the 980ti to the 1080ti while reducing the die size from 601mm^2 to 471mm^2. So yeah, I'll believe 50%, I'll even believe more than 50%.
There are actually a lot of parallels between the 900 series to the 1000 series transition and 2000 to the 3000 series transition. I don't believe it will be X2 performance again, but it will be significant and even "just" 50% means a ~25TF Titan.
Given they're already arguing about the 5G frequencies, I think you'll get your wish lol
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lol i was about to say. i somehow ended up on TimDog's twitter page (dont ask how) and found two things. 1) he has 16k followers. 2) there are some very respectable posters in this thread that follow and/or interact with him.
this guy is literally one of the worst fanboys ive ever seen. i cant imagine how and why anyone would reply or interact with him. this is the guy you ignore. not follow.
He's terrible. He's like some of the horrible PS fanboys that I see get made fun of once and then ignored, but for some reason he's gained a following. I don't understand it.
Since they haven't spoken about lockhart at all, I'm assuming it wont be out for the Holidays... that's fine since the diehard enthusiast will buy up all the stock regardless. It would be imperative that they get get Lockhart out just in time for the diehard enthusiasts to start being replaced by the more price concious buyers. It would really have to come out in Q1 2021 to avoid losing momentum after the holiday season.
Aye, is there any reason that I keep seeing Tim Dog and MisterX shit on Era? I purposely avoid these people for a reason, they don't post here and they have jack shit to do with our community. People have been using this crackpot wack-a-doo for stupid ass console war framing for 7 years running. Can we retire him and Tim?
lets wait a few more days and see what amd can do with the big navi cards. they should have a 20 tflops card themselves. its supposed to be 505mm2. the slightly bigger navi should be around 300-350mm2. 60+ CUs. there is no way either card is over 300w.
MS execs gave him credibility by meeting with him at E3 and replying to his tweets. iirc, he was the guy aaron greenberg tweeted when he said your tv ouputs at 1080p.
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